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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:29 PM Mar 2012

Can you see what's wrong in this picture ?

Or the whole affair, for that matter. I can't identify even one person that needs or would be affected by other peoples contraceptive issues....

Protesters condemn contraception coverage in health insurance mandate

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More than 1,000 people from throughout Northeast Ohio gathered at the Free Stamp sculpture next to Cleveland City Hall Friday to condemn President Obama's new rule mandating that health insurance plans cover contraception.

Prior to the prayer rally, the group attended Mass at St. John's Cathedral where Bishop Richard Lennon of the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland proclaimed in his sermon that the White House mandate, which affects some faith-based institutions, is an attack on freedom of religion.

The bishop's words were met with a standing ovation in the packed, 1,200-seat cathedral.

After Mass, the crowd, carrying protest signs, rosaries, American flags and babies, walked to the Free Stamp, which is across the street from the Anthony J. Celebrezze Federal Building, a symbol of the Obama government.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/03/protesters_condemn_president_o.html

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Can you see what's wrong in this picture ? (Original Post) jaysunb Mar 2012 OP
a scary lack of the color green? Robeysays Mar 2012 #1
Or anyone even wants to have sex with. RC Mar 2012 #6
Valid point. JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #16
Red is the color of Catholic martyrdom MrScorpio Mar 2012 #22
Not one functional ovary in that picture. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #2
Funny how that works. The Doctor. Mar 2012 #4
Or any sperm that can still swim. LOL ! n/t jaysunb Mar 2012 #7
There is nothing wrong with the picture... cynatnite Mar 2012 #3
Point taken...I think jaysunb Mar 2012 #5
I don't have a problem with them protesting even though I think they're wrong. n/t cynatnite Mar 2012 #11
+10000 belcffub Mar 2012 #15
Protesting is fine, but when you're doing it jaysunb Mar 2012 #26
They were not promoting to harm anyone.. cynatnite Mar 2012 #27
ok jaysunb Mar 2012 #28
Tax the church NOW! They want to arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #8
I see people protesting something they don't believe in nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #9
Losers. nt Deep13 Mar 2012 #10
Most of them look to be of Medicare age Marrah_G Mar 2012 #12
What bothers me in instances like this is not the protests. It's the libinnyandia Mar 2012 #13
Very sad to see so many self-loathing women chnoutte Mar 2012 #14
My thoughts exactly Amaril Mar 2012 #17
Those who don't believe in fairy tales chnoutte Mar 2012 #18
More like they suffer from the tyranny of those who do and organize themselves to rule. uppityperson Mar 2012 #23
THAT is the central lie in their "argument", BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #21
Could someone help me? Ship of Fools Mar 2012 #19
Big difference between standing up for the jaysunb Mar 2012 #20
That bishop and his church should have the tax exempt stauts pulled, ASAP. sarcasmo Mar 2012 #24
HHS Mandate - it's mandated (from 1983) by the insurance companies underpants Mar 2012 #25

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
3. There is nothing wrong with the picture...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:40 PM
Mar 2012

It's people exercising their rights to protest. That's all.

I had my tubes tied and have BP problems. I will never take BCP's. That does not negate my right to protest attempts to limit other women who might need contraception. I'm not personally affected, but I will still stand up for those who are.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
5. Point taken...I think
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:47 PM
Mar 2012

but there's a lot more going on here than just protesting ones rights. These people are trying to trample on the rights of others when no one was or is doing anything that affects THEM, all the while pretending someone is trying to take their religious freedom.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
26. Protesting is fine, but when you're doing it
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:06 PM
Mar 2012

to promote the possible harming of others in the name of your religious or politcal views it's being a bully in my opinion.

And btw, the purpose of the post was to point out the ages and gender of the people involved in something that has absolutely nothing to do w/ their religious freedom and everything to do w/ infringing on the rights of others.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
27. They were not promoting to harm anyone..
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:45 PM
Mar 2012

They were protesting women's access to free contraception because of their religious views. They are wrong, of course, but they have every right as Americans to hold up their signs and express their views.

The ages and gender has nothing to do with the issue at hand. In their minds, it's a religious thing...well most of their minds.

I think some of it is they do it just because they hate Obama. If Obama was saving puppies from getting ran over by ninjas, they'd protest.

No matter how much we disagree with these people or question their motives, they have every right to protest.

arthritisR_US

(7,291 posts)
8. Tax the church NOW! They want to
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:59 PM
Mar 2012

politicize from the pulpit then damn well pay their fair share like the rest of us.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. I see people protesting something they don't believe in
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:01 AM
Mar 2012

Tey must be met in the realm of ideas. Personally I see nothing wrong about people protesting, no matter how much I disagree with them.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
12. Most of them look to be of Medicare age
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:27 AM
Mar 2012

I wonder if they turned down Medicare or social security?

The Catholic church also needs it's tax exempt status revoked. The Vatican doesn't need more tax-free dollars from the US.

libinnyandia

(1,374 posts)
13. What bothers me in instances like this is not the protests. It's the
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:23 AM
Mar 2012

ideas the protesters are promoting. The teabaggers have a right to protest. The ideas they promote are evil.

 

chnoutte

(36 posts)
14. Very sad to see so many self-loathing women
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:55 AM
Mar 2012

willing to give up their rights to men and the government.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
17. My thoughts exactly
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:18 AM
Mar 2012

My second thought..........what about those of us who DON'T believe that life begins at ejaculation? Are we not entitled to religious freedom (as in, freedom FROM religion) too?

 

chnoutte

(36 posts)
18. Those who don't believe in fairy tales
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:36 AM
Mar 2012

suffer from the tyranny of the majority.

Always remember that knowledge is the enemy of faith

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
23. More like they suffer from the tyranny of those who do and organize themselves to rule.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:48 PM
Mar 2012

Not necessarily the majority at all. I've lived in small communities where the majority were "those who don't believe in fairy tales" but the minority fundamnetalist religionsists banded together, organized themselves and ran things rather than letting others be. Outspoken minority who organize themselves rather than the herd of cats "live and let live" follks.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
21. THAT is the central lie in their "argument",
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Mar 2012

in my view. No one is threatening their religious freedom. In fact, laws protecting the right to be protected from other people forcing their religion on you protects them as well. How would they like it if all us Buddhists formed a political lobby to force compassion, self-reflection and wisdom on everybody?


Religious Freedom, to them, means, Everyone must go by MY rules.

Ship of Fools

(1,453 posts)
19. Could someone help me?
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:31 AM
Mar 2012

I never understood that argument...I'm way past menopause, but I
believe in a woman's right to abortion. Would I be identified in a picture
as someone who wouldn't be affected by a woman's right to choose?

This is an honest question, btw. Please don't read any snark into it.
I'm truly trying to understand that perspective.

Thanks.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
20. Big difference between standing up for the
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:01 PM
Mar 2012

right to choose your path as opposed to trying to take those rights for others. they can't have it both ways.....

underpants

(182,863 posts)
25. HHS Mandate - it's mandated (from 1983) by the insurance companies
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:52 PM
Mar 2012

The individual mandate was a demand by health insurance companies going back to Hillary's efforts n 1983. They demanded it and....as usual ... got it

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