Obama Meets Hawaiian Woman, Asks to See Her Birth Certificate

[Hissyspit]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/23/obama-meets-hawaiian-woman-asks-to-see-her-birth-certificate

Obama meets Hawaiian woman, asks to see her birth certificate

By David Ferguson
Friday, March 23, 2012 14:52 EDT

Well, Rahm Emmanuel may be long gone from the White House, but some small aspect of his “Never let a crisis go to waste” philosophy clearly lives on in our Commander in Chief. Hectored since even before his inauguration about questions regarding his legitimacy as an American citizen, President Obama has decided that when life gives you “birthers,” you should make birth certificate jokes.

At an event in Oklahoma today, the president was shaking hands with some of the people assembled to meet him. One woman announced that she and the president have Hawaii in common as their place of birth.

“Oh, you’re Hawaiian like me?” he asked, smiling, “Well, do you have your birth certificate?”

Watch the video, embedded via Mediaite from today, March 23, below:

[freshwest]

1. We could resolve this for the birthers by repealing statehood for Hawaii.

I wonder which states they would consider one to have to be born in to be real Americans. All red ones, no doubt. Isn't that what this is all about?

He's not a Republican, and in their eyes, he can't be since to them he's a liberal, a progressive, a socialist and a Democrat, meaning he can't be American. They've got a narrow view of what one is.

McCain, born in Panama. American?

Palin, lives in Alaska and had ties to a group that wants to secede from the US. American?

Heck, she can see Russia from her house, and McCain could probably see Mexico from his. They might be traitors.

Remember how the GOP went after Kerry and his wife?

French fries, or something, not Freedom fries like they should have been.

McCain spent time in Vietnam. Maybe he's a commie sympathizer. Just how far do the birthers want to go with this?

[Lawlbringer]

4. I've had one explain to me

that since his father was technically a British subject he is an American Citizen, but not a Natural Born citizen as dictated by the Supreme Court almost 200 years ago.

I was curious, so I posed the question to someone I knew to be both a Ron Paul supporter and a Birther, both polar opposites of my political ideologies, and that was the response. It was surprisingly concise and well thought out. A compelling argument, but ultimately, neither the Constitution nor the US Code specifically state that you need to be a NATURAL BORN citizen (which is good, because having two US Citizen parents is a silly requirement in a melting pot like the United States.)

I just can't wait for this nonsense to be over.

[JoePhilly]

6. Ask these folks if a baby conceived via invetrofertilization counts ...

And what about an adopt kid ...?

Imagine a kid abandoned on the door step of a hospital in Kansas. No one knows who the parents are. Can that child grow up tp be President?

Questions like these drive the right wing dopes insane.

[quaker bill]

12. What about those born by surgical intervention?

Certainly you pass through a birth canal located in the US which is part of an American Citizen... If they use tongs to assist? That's not natural, right?

[struggle4progress]

9. Actually, the Constitution explicitly states

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

which presumably means one must have been born a US citizen (like Martin Van Buren and subsequent presidents), rather than becoming a citizen after birth by some naturalization process

The birther arguments you cite on this point show a rather crass indifference to historical developments

The notion that British law could determine, whether one is or is not a US citizen, is somewhat dispelled by the controversies leading to the War of 1812, in which Americans took the view that the British could not determine the citizenship of Americans, even upon the high seas

Moreover, the reading of natural born Citizen today must be conditioned by the Fourteenth Amendment and the associated Civil War controversies: All persons born ... in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens ...

The clause and subject to the jurisdiction thereof is seldom inoperative, since the normal presumption will be that a person is de facto subject to the jurisdiction thereof whilst in the United States: exceptions might include (for example) immediate families of foreign diplomats with proper credentials

Of course, there's little point in discussing such matters with folk who think Hawaii is the part of Russia Sarah Palin can see from her backyard

[obxhead]

10. Under that kind of strict requirement

only Native Americans would be US citizens.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

2. I love this. These backwards racist morons need to be ridiculed

Score 1 for the President.

[OKNancy]

3. what was cute was the lady says..

"oh I touched him" or was it? I touched you.

Nice to see fellow Oklahomans excited to see the President.

[Glimmer of Hope]

5. I love it!

[tanyev]

7. LOL!

[JI7]

8. i'm glad he is joking about this, because that's what they are

something to be laughed at.

[brooklynite]

11. Birth Certificate? What about her Passport?

We all know Hawaii is exotic and foreign...