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kpete

(72,014 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:06 PM Mar 2012

Geraldo: My Own Son Is 'Ashamed' Of My Hoodie Quote

Geraldo: My Own Son Is 'Ashamed' Of My Hoodie Quote

How bad is the backlash against Geraldo Rivera for blaming Trayvon Martin's shooting death on his choice of clothing? His own son is piling on.

"My own son just wrote to say he's ashamed of my position re hoodies [sic]," Rivera tweeted on Friday. "Still I feel parents must do whatever they can to keep their kids safe."

.............................

"It's not blaming the victim Its common sense-look like a gangsta&some armed schmuck will take you at your word," he added.

On FOX News the same morning, Rivera said: “I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was.”

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/geraldo-my-own-son-is-ashamed-of-my
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/geraldo_rivera_blames_trayvon_martins_death_on_his.php

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Geraldo: My Own Son Is 'Ashamed' Of My Hoodie Quote (Original Post) kpete Mar 2012 OP
Good for the kid. Fuck Geraldo. Robb Mar 2012 #1
If Geraldo is mistaken for a pedophile and shot, will we blame his mustache? n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #2
DING!!! Wait Wut Mar 2012 #5
LOL!!!!! fascisthunter Mar 2012 #57
"the hoodie is as much responsible"??? The hoodie pulled the trigger? polichick Mar 2012 #3
"It's not blaming the victim" gratuitous Mar 2012 #4
The son gets it. Lone_Star_Dem Mar 2012 #6
I have trouble telling Geraldo and Borat apart. MineralMan Mar 2012 #7
one of them is a comedian CreekDog Mar 2012 #37
Ah...it is clear to me now. MineralMan Mar 2012 #40
wtf? Geraldo has outdone himself this time. yardwork Mar 2012 #8
So a hoodie is "gangsta"? I guess I'm married to a "gangsta" librarian because my wife wears hoodies WhollyHeretic Mar 2012 #9
Oh, you've got to watch out for the gangsta librarians. tanyev Mar 2012 #35
My wife and I both wear our hoodies when it's cool auburngrad82 Mar 2012 #10
Fox News: Talk first, think later. savalez Mar 2012 #11
I Had A Similar Conversation w/ My Son otohara Mar 2012 #12
You are the only one in this thread who is trying to look at this from both sides. murielm99 Mar 2012 #19
Doesn't Seem To Make Much Difference otohara Mar 2012 #32
My kids are about as white as they come. murielm99 Mar 2012 #45
I don't know JonLP24 Mar 2012 #38
Without Guns, There'd Be No Fear of Clothes otohara Mar 2012 #44
Thank You RobinA Mar 2012 #41
I'm not sure what the not liking reality JonLP24 Mar 2012 #48
I just heard a black cop... butterfly77 Mar 2012 #13
That's the thinking that blames women for being raped malaise Mar 2012 #14
Good - I'm tired of the blame everything but the guns crowd. Initech Mar 2012 #15
I wear mercuryblues Mar 2012 #16
really. barbtries Mar 2012 #17
I wear hoodies. ohheckyeah Mar 2012 #18
Geraldo is quadrupling down on his hoodie remark pokerfan Mar 2012 #20
He keeps climbing out of the hole then jumping back in again. SolutionisSolidarity Mar 2012 #53
Zimmerman would have followed him anyway because he was black. nt Incitatus Mar 2012 #21
How true. NOLALady Mar 2012 #43
Maybe this apple fell and rolled away from the tree. Incitatus Mar 2012 #22
Sound very much like trying to blame a rape on the clothes the victim was wearing. I thought we jwirr Mar 2012 #23
+1 What an asshole SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #25
this just in-Capone's vault is still empty nt bart95 Mar 2012 #24
LOL...I was just about to write: deutsey Mar 2012 #29
I wear hoodies and I am a 73-year-old white blonde female. RebelOne Mar 2012 #26
I wear them too dana_b Mar 2012 #28
GANGSTA!!!! deutsey Mar 2012 #30
I'm a 30-something blonde white female Aerows Mar 2012 #56
really, Geraldo? dana_b Mar 2012 #27
He just had to insert himself into the story somehow. What a Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #31
I'm a middle-age white man and I wear a hoodie just about every day. Why? Shampoobra Mar 2012 #33
so over 75 percent of school kids are just asking to be shot JI7 Mar 2012 #34
Should we blame the manufacturers of hoodies? IggleDoer Mar 2012 #36
the problem is that without the hoodie, the kid was harassed CreekDog Mar 2012 #39
What did Shaun Slannity say...`` butterfly77 Mar 2012 #42
So if Trayvon wasn't wearing a hoodie vankuria Mar 2012 #46
He should be ashamed! Hatchling Mar 2012 #47
He was probably also wearing pants. surrealAmerican Mar 2012 #49
Geraldo in a hoodie DesertRat Mar 2012 #50
I used to think Heraldo made sense when he was young aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #51
Most decent paying "pundit" openings are in corporate media daleo Mar 2012 #54
Wow, someone should have shot me down in cold blood a few decades ago LynneSin Mar 2012 #52
Does Geraldo see the same problems with this? Patsy Stone Mar 2012 #55
I really hope... greytdemocrat Mar 2012 #58

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
5. DING!!!
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:12 PM
Mar 2012

That's exactly what I was going to post!

You never hear this guy's name mentioned anymore unless something stupid falls out of his mouth. I think he's personally responsible for the beginning of the downfall of real journalism.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
57. LOL!!!!!
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:07 AM
Mar 2012

ok, that almost made me squirt coffee out of my mouth.

I thought he was a just a John Hall and Oats fan...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. "It's not blaming the victim"
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:12 PM
Mar 2012

All appearances to the contrary notwithstanding, eh Jerry? You're saying that Martin was just asking for it, the way he was dressed. Where have I heard that sentiment before? Think, think.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
6. The son gets it.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:14 PM
Mar 2012

Lot's of young people wear hoodies. It doesn't make them targets.

Geraldo is out of touch with American youth, and he was blaming the victim.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
8. wtf? Geraldo has outdone himself this time.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:15 PM
Mar 2012

I have no words to express my disgust that somebody actually said that the "hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin's death as George Zimmerman was."

WhollyHeretic

(4,074 posts)
9. So a hoodie is "gangsta"? I guess I'm married to a "gangsta" librarian because my wife wears hoodies
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:18 PM
Mar 2012

all the time.

tanyev

(42,610 posts)
35. Oh, you've got to watch out for the gangsta librarians.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:05 PM
Mar 2012

They're the worst of all.



(I work at a library, too. )

auburngrad82

(5,029 posts)
10. My wife and I both wear our hoodies when it's cool
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:20 PM
Mar 2012

and we love them.

Hoodies aren't any more "gangsta" than jeans are "cowboy".

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
12. I Had A Similar Conversation w/ My Son
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:23 PM
Mar 2012

he and some friends went to the jungle and all got lice.

He shaved his head to get rid of the lice and then kept doing it until I had the conversation with him.

He looked scary - intimidating and I told him so. If I saw him on a lonely street at night, I'd cross the street and would feel fearful. I asked, why would you want people to fear you? He stopped shaving his head to my delight.

He was walking up and down our street, listening to music wearing his hoodie, with one side hooked over his ear and someone called the police. My hubby predicted this would happen and it did.

He's mixed blood and could be taken for Hispanic, Arabic or Asian.

It's scary out there - I want my son to live a long life.

murielm99

(30,761 posts)
45. My kids are about as white as they come.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:38 PM
Mar 2012

When they were going to school in our small rural community, there was a push by the school board for stricter dress standards. My children went to a school board meeting and addressed the school board members about freedom of expression. I went with them for support, but kept my mouth shut.

Over the next couple of years, my two older kids were accepted into our state's math and science academy. They left home at fourteen and fifteen to attend that school. That is scary enough for any parent, but the nearby area was very gang-infested. All the students were cautioned not to wear certain colors, not to wear their clothes or tie their shoes in certain ways when they left campus. It might be the gang-bangers, or it might be the cops who could put them in very serious danger if they were not careful how they dressed.

I am sorry there are so many stereotypes. It is sad that we can't dress as we please. I have a couple of hoodies myself.

The world is a complicated and hateful place. The best we can do is to pay attention and try to keep our children and ourselves safe. I don't care if I am going against the group think here or not. I weep for Trayvon. I have a son.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
38. I don't know
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:14 PM
Mar 2012

I think others is looking at the other side and concluding it is absurd the hoodie has an ounce of responsibility for what happened. My mom has a hoodie, every school I ever attended sold hoodies with the school name & logo on it, I've worn them every winter without incident.

If you have to fear someone, fear everyone. Looks can be deceiving.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
44. Without Guns, There'd Be No Fear of Clothes
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:35 PM
Mar 2012

Like in Japan - hoodies are everywhere and guns are no where.


RobinA

(9,894 posts)
41. Thank You
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:23 PM
Mar 2012

I tried to make this point on another thread and wasn't too successful. People don't like reality.

I live in one of the biggest skinhead states. Attending a funeral for my uncle a couple years ago I see these two teens with shaved heads. They weren't Michael Stipe, so I'm thinking, "Who in this family has skinhead kids?" Turns out they were the teenagers of one of the coolest cousins who ever lived. I hadn't seen them since they were toddlers, they lived in another state. They are about as far from skinheads as anyone can get. I made a snap judgement based on my experience, both generational (I'm from the '70's when short hair meant uncool) and geographical. Was I wrong, yeah. Was it their FAULT I thought they were skinheads? No, it was mine. But if ya don't want to be taken for a skinhead, don't shave the head. In this state, anyway. If you don't care, shave away. These days they have nice long hair. Cool.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
48. I'm not sure what the not liking reality
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:14 PM
Mar 2012

has to do in the context of the hoodie comment. A very large number of people wear hoodies and so does Geraldo. Post #43 is reality based, IMO. Hoodie had little to nothing to do with this.

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
13. I just heard a black cop...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:26 PM
Mar 2012

on ed schultz saying he agrees with Geraldo, he was talking about black communities in New York and that he sees it all day long. I say he is full of shit..

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
16. I wear
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:30 PM
Mar 2012

hoodies to my son's baseball games. It gets a little chilly at night. So I guess If someone shoots me I deserve it because of my choice in clothing. The concession stand even sells those dangerous weapons, AKA Skittles.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
17. really.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:31 PM
Mar 2012

as i recall it was raining. after that last quote, his son probably wants to change his name. jerk.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
20. Geraldo is quadrupling down on his hoodie remark
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:38 PM
Mar 2012

Its not blaming the victim Its common sense-look like a gangsta&some armed schmuck will take you at your word
2h ? @GeraldoRivera

My own son just wrote to say he's ashamed of my position re hoodies-still I feel parents must do whatever they can to keep their kids safe
2h ? @GeraldoRivera

Justice will come to Zimmerman the Fla shooter-but I'm trying to save lives like Trayvon's-Parents Alert: hoodies can get your kid killed
18h ? @GeraldoRivera

His hoodie killed Trayvon Martin as surely as George Zimmerman.
19h ? @GeraldoRivera

Trayvon killed by a jerk w a gun but black & Latino parents have to drill into kids heads: a hoodie is like a sign: shoot or stop & frisk me
22 Mar ? @GeraldoRivera

53. He keeps climbing out of the hole then jumping back in again.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:41 PM
Mar 2012

His first tweet is ridiculous. Everyone wears hoodies; only a bigot would jump to gansta on that basis alone. He back-pedals by claiming he's just trying to look out for children's lives, then says the worst thing yet in giving the murderer and his victim an equal share of the blame. I get the point he's trying to make. It's a bad idea to look like a criminal, no matter how hard that image is marketed toward you. But the bar for looking like a criminal really ought to be a bit higher then wearing a sweater with a hood on it, even if you are a young black male.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
43. How true.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:31 PM
Mar 2012

We didn't wear hoodies.

We dressed just like the "privileged" kids. It didn't do a damn thing to stop the frisk and search, profiling and harassing of black youth. They did everything possible to remind us to stay in our place.

I call Bullshit on the hoodie as the cause of profiling. I am a senior citizen. I love my hoodie and will not stop wearing it in order to avoid being shot. If someone decides to take me out, I hardly believe it will be because of wearing a hoodie.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
23. Sound very much like trying to blame a rape on the clothes the victim was wearing. I thought we
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:50 PM
Mar 2012

got over that idiocy. I am a 70 year old greatgrandmother - is there a difference between a hoodie and a hooded sweatshirt? We have been wearing the latter for decades.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
25. +1 What an asshole
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:56 PM
Mar 2012

What happened to Geraldo? Money. He used to be pretty cool, way back when he was a journalist. Then he got famous and rich and turned into O'Reilly lite.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
29. LOL...I was just about to write:
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:01 PM
Mar 2012

Geraldo should stick to trying to locate Capone's hidden fortune...he might find his credibility there as well.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
26. I wear hoodies and I am a 73-year-old white blonde female.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:56 PM
Mar 2012

I doubt very much that I would be mistaken for a gangster.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
28. I wear them too
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:00 PM
Mar 2012

and I am a middle aged woman. Blaming clothing in this case is like Dan White blaming Twinkies.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
56. I'm a 30-something blonde white female
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:05 AM
Mar 2012

If someone mistakes me for a gangster because I wear a hoodie they need to get their eyes checked or their head examined.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,505 posts)
31. He just had to insert himself into the story somehow. What a
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012

fucking egomaniac molester 'stache sporting douche.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
33. I'm a middle-age white man and I wear a hoodie just about every day. Why?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:32 PM
Mar 2012

Because I live in a windy, rainy climate, but a thick hood from a winter jacket gives my hair something resembling bed-head (while the hoodie does not).

When I'm wearing it, no one ever looks at me as if I'm some sort of menace. Why? Because I'm a middle-age white man.

So in response to Geraldo's warning to parents regarding how their children dress, I have to question how much progress we as a country have made in the area of racial equality, when I get to wear the same kind of hood, with impunity, that could get a young black man shot.

JI7

(89,264 posts)
34. so over 75 percent of school kids are just asking to be shot
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:00 PM
Mar 2012

or does this only apply to black kids ?

i said before that this whole thing is reminding me of those who blame the woman for rape by bringing up what she was wearing, asking why she went out alone etc.

IggleDoer

(1,186 posts)
36. Should we blame the manufacturers of hoodies?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:08 PM
Mar 2012

Most of our clothing is made in China.

Therefore we should go to war with China.

Or,... using the logic of the Bush administration, maybe we should go to war with Bolivia.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
39. the problem is that without the hoodie, the kid was harassed
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:15 PM
Mar 2012

and with secret service agents not getting served at Denny's

with Barack Obama not considered an American...

when a black professional dressed in business attire will still get stopped for DWB...

the hoodie makes no difference. yes, if they see the hoodie, it will reinforce their stereotypes and if they don't see a hoodie, they will still hold to the stereotypes.

this stuff has got to stop.

vankuria

(904 posts)
46. So if Trayvon wasn't wearing a hoodie
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:45 PM
Mar 2012

he'd still be alive? I don't care what this kid was wearing, this so called "neighborhood watch captain" was out to get anyone he deemed suspicious (ie., anyone with dark skin). Nothing could have saved Trayvon from this Barney Fife wannabe, trigger happy, loser, imbecile, moran.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
47. He should be ashamed!
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:50 PM
Mar 2012

I'm a sixty year old, gray haired, white woman who wears hoodies all the time. They are a comfortable, versitle garment, especially in warm states where it's hot during the day and cools off in the evening.

I can gurantee you no one whould shoot me walking home from the 7-11 with skittles and an ice tea.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
49. He was probably also wearing pants.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:15 PM
Mar 2012

Shouldn't we be warning our children never to be seen in public with pants on?


This is just silly: almost everybody I know, from infants to old people, has a "hoodie" of some sort. They are hardly a sign of gang affiliation.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
51. I used to think Heraldo made sense when he was young
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:52 PM
Mar 2012

In his early days he seemed a lot more liberal. He got into a violent confrontation with white supremacists on his show and got his nose broken. In the last few years, however, he seems to have turned into an aging conservative crank who doesn't remember what it was like to be young. I don't know what happened. Maybe the Al Capone vault fiasco destroyed his mind.

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daleo

(21,317 posts)
54. Most decent paying "pundit" openings are in corporate media
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:05 PM
Mar 2012

So, the "pundits" obligingly lean right, to conform with the overall class interests of the corporation, which tend to be conservative (i.e. the top one percent of the income distribution). They are paid to transmit the message the corporations want them to transmit. Geraldo's ideological evolution is an example of this.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
52. Wow, someone should have shot me down in cold blood a few decades ago
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:54 PM
Mar 2012

I love my Eagles Hoodie

- for the cold blood thing.

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