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Geraldo: My Own Son Is 'Ashamed' Of My Hoodie Quote
How bad is the backlash against Geraldo Rivera for blaming Trayvon Martin's shooting death on his choice of clothing? His own son is piling on.
"My own son just wrote to say he's ashamed of my position re hoodies [sic]," Rivera tweeted on Friday. "Still I feel parents must do whatever they can to keep their kids safe."
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"It's not blaming the victim Its common sense-look like a gangsta&some armed schmuck will take you at your word," he added.
On FOX News the same morning, Rivera said: I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martins death as George Zimmerman was.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/geraldo-my-own-son-is-ashamed-of-my
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/geraldo_rivera_blames_trayvon_martins_death_on_his.php
Robb
(39,665 posts)It's blaming the victim. And it's reprehensible.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)That's exactly what I was going to post!
You never hear this guy's name mentioned anymore unless something stupid falls out of his mouth. I think he's personally responsible for the beginning of the downfall of real journalism.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)ok, that almost made me squirt coffee out of my mouth.
I thought he was a just a John Hall and Oats fan...
polichick
(37,152 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)All appearances to the contrary notwithstanding, eh Jerry? You're saying that Martin was just asking for it, the way he was dressed. Where have I heard that sentiment before? Think, think.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Lot's of young people wear hoodies. It doesn't make them targets.
Geraldo is out of touch with American youth, and he was blaming the victim.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Can't imagine why...
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)the other a joke.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)yardwork
(61,703 posts)I have no words to express my disgust that somebody actually said that the "hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin's death as George Zimmerman was."
WhollyHeretic
(4,074 posts)all the time.
tanyev
(42,610 posts)They're the worst of all.
(I work at a library, too. )
auburngrad82
(5,029 posts)and we love them.
Hoodies aren't any more "gangsta" than jeans are "cowboy".
savalez
(3,517 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)he and some friends went to the jungle and all got lice.
He shaved his head to get rid of the lice and then kept doing it until I had the conversation with him.
He looked scary - intimidating and I told him so. If I saw him on a lonely street at night, I'd cross the street and would feel fearful. I asked, why would you want people to fear you? He stopped shaving his head to my delight.
He was walking up and down our street, listening to music wearing his hoodie, with one side hooked over his ear and someone called the police. My hubby predicted this would happen and it did.
He's mixed blood and could be taken for Hispanic, Arabic or Asian.
It's scary out there - I want my son to live a long life.
murielm99
(30,761 posts)Good for you.
otohara
(24,135 posts)mob mentality - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
murielm99
(30,761 posts)When they were going to school in our small rural community, there was a push by the school board for stricter dress standards. My children went to a school board meeting and addressed the school board members about freedom of expression. I went with them for support, but kept my mouth shut.
Over the next couple of years, my two older kids were accepted into our state's math and science academy. They left home at fourteen and fifteen to attend that school. That is scary enough for any parent, but the nearby area was very gang-infested. All the students were cautioned not to wear certain colors, not to wear their clothes or tie their shoes in certain ways when they left campus. It might be the gang-bangers, or it might be the cops who could put them in very serious danger if they were not careful how they dressed.
I am sorry there are so many stereotypes. It is sad that we can't dress as we please. I have a couple of hoodies myself.
The world is a complicated and hateful place. The best we can do is to pay attention and try to keep our children and ourselves safe. I don't care if I am going against the group think here or not. I weep for Trayvon. I have a son.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I think others is looking at the other side and concluding it is absurd the hoodie has an ounce of responsibility for what happened. My mom has a hoodie, every school I ever attended sold hoodies with the school name & logo on it, I've worn them every winter without incident.
If you have to fear someone, fear everyone. Looks can be deceiving.
otohara
(24,135 posts)Like in Japan - hoodies are everywhere and guns are no where.
I tried to make this point on another thread and wasn't too successful. People don't like reality.
I live in one of the biggest skinhead states. Attending a funeral for my uncle a couple years ago I see these two teens with shaved heads. They weren't Michael Stipe, so I'm thinking, "Who in this family has skinhead kids?" Turns out they were the teenagers of one of the coolest cousins who ever lived. I hadn't seen them since they were toddlers, they lived in another state. They are about as far from skinheads as anyone can get. I made a snap judgement based on my experience, both generational (I'm from the '70's when short hair meant uncool) and geographical. Was I wrong, yeah. Was it their FAULT I thought they were skinheads? No, it was mine. But if ya don't want to be taken for a skinhead, don't shave the head. In this state, anyway. If you don't care, shave away. These days they have nice long hair. Cool.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)has to do in the context of the hoodie comment. A very large number of people wear hoodies and so does Geraldo. Post #43 is reality based, IMO. Hoodie had little to nothing to do with this.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)on ed schultz saying he agrees with Geraldo, he was talking about black communities in New York and that he sees it all day long. I say he is full of shit..
malaise
(269,157 posts)because of their clothing - fuck Geraldo
Initech
(100,102 posts)mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)hoodies to my son's baseball games. It gets a little chilly at night. So I guess If someone shoots me I deserve it because of my choice in clothing. The concession stand even sells those dangerous weapons, AKA Skittles.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)as i recall it was raining. after that last quote, his son probably wants to change his name. jerk.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)Does that make me game for being shot?
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Its not blaming the victim Its common sense-look like a gangsta&some armed schmuck will take you at your word
2h ? @GeraldoRivera
My own son just wrote to say he's ashamed of my position re hoodies-still I feel parents must do whatever they can to keep their kids safe
2h ? @GeraldoRivera
Justice will come to Zimmerman the Fla shooter-but I'm trying to save lives like Trayvon's-Parents Alert: hoodies can get your kid killed
18h ? @GeraldoRivera
His hoodie killed Trayvon Martin as surely as George Zimmerman.
19h ? @GeraldoRivera
Trayvon killed by a jerk w a gun but black & Latino parents have to drill into kids heads: a hoodie is like a sign: shoot or stop & frisk me
22 Mar ? @GeraldoRivera
SolutionisSolidarity
(606 posts)His first tweet is ridiculous. Everyone wears hoodies; only a bigot would jump to gansta on that basis alone. He back-pedals by claiming he's just trying to look out for children's lives, then says the worst thing yet in giving the murderer and his victim an equal share of the blame. I get the point he's trying to make. It's a bad idea to look like a criminal, no matter how hard that image is marketed toward you. But the bar for looking like a criminal really ought to be a bit higher then wearing a sweater with a hood on it, even if you are a young black male.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)NOLALady
(4,003 posts)We didn't wear hoodies.
We dressed just like the "privileged" kids. It didn't do a damn thing to stop the frisk and search, profiling and harassing of black youth. They did everything possible to remind us to stay in our place.
I call Bullshit on the hoodie as the cause of profiling. I am a senior citizen. I love my hoodie and will not stop wearing it in order to avoid being shot. If someone decides to take me out, I hardly believe it will be because of wearing a hoodie.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Thank God!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)got over that idiocy. I am a 70 year old greatgrandmother - is there a difference between a hoodie and a hooded sweatshirt? We have been wearing the latter for decades.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)What happened to Geraldo? Money. He used to be pretty cool, way back when he was a journalist. Then he got famous and rich and turned into O'Reilly lite.
bart95
(488 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)Geraldo should stick to trying to locate Capone's hidden fortune...he might find his credibility there as well.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I doubt very much that I would be mistaken for a gangster.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)and I am a middle aged woman. Blaming clothing in this case is like Dan White blaming Twinkies.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)If someone mistakes me for a gangster because I wear a hoodie they need to get their eyes checked or their head examined.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Your son is more tolerant and bright than you - admit it.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)fucking egomaniac molester 'stache sporting douche.
Shampoobra
(423 posts)Because I live in a windy, rainy climate, but a thick hood from a winter jacket gives my hair something resembling bed-head (while the hoodie does not).
When I'm wearing it, no one ever looks at me as if I'm some sort of menace. Why? Because I'm a middle-age white man.
So in response to Geraldo's warning to parents regarding how their children dress, I have to question how much progress we as a country have made in the area of racial equality, when I get to wear the same kind of hood, with impunity, that could get a young black man shot.
JI7
(89,264 posts)or does this only apply to black kids ?
i said before that this whole thing is reminding me of those who blame the woman for rape by bringing up what she was wearing, asking why she went out alone etc.
IggleDoer
(1,186 posts)Most of our clothing is made in China.
Therefore we should go to war with China.
Or,... using the logic of the Bush administration, maybe we should go to war with Bolivia.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and with secret service agents not getting served at Denny's
with Barack Obama not considered an American...
when a black professional dressed in business attire will still get stopped for DWB...
the hoodie makes no difference. yes, if they see the hoodie, it will reinforce their stereotypes and if they don't see a hoodie, they will still hold to the stereotypes.
this stuff has got to stop.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)I heard that he said something utterly ridiculous,as always.
vankuria
(904 posts)he'd still be alive? I don't care what this kid was wearing, this so called "neighborhood watch captain" was out to get anyone he deemed suspicious (ie., anyone with dark skin). Nothing could have saved Trayvon from this Barney Fife wannabe, trigger happy, loser, imbecile, moran.
Hatchling
(2,323 posts)I'm a sixty year old, gray haired, white woman who wears hoodies all the time. They are a comfortable, versitle garment, especially in warm states where it's hot during the day and cools off in the evening.
I can gurantee you no one whould shoot me walking home from the 7-11 with skittles and an ice tea.
surrealAmerican
(11,364 posts)Shouldn't we be warning our children never to be seen in public with pants on?
This is just silly: almost everybody I know, from infants to old people, has a "hoodie" of some sort. They are hardly a sign of gang affiliation.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)In his early days he seemed a lot more liberal. He got into a violent confrontation with white supremacists on his show and got his nose broken. In the last few years, however, he seems to have turned into an aging conservative crank who doesn't remember what it was like to be young. I don't know what happened. Maybe the Al Capone vault fiasco destroyed his mind.
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daleo
(21,317 posts)So, the "pundits" obligingly lean right, to conform with the overall class interests of the corporation, which tend to be conservative (i.e. the top one percent of the income distribution). They are paid to transmit the message the corporations want them to transmit. Geraldo's ideological evolution is an example of this.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I love my Eagles Hoodie
- for the cold blood thing.
Patsy Stone
(41,435 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)That Geraldo gets washed out to sea in a hurricane this summer.