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riqster

(13,986 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:03 PM Mar 2014

So I get this death threat yesterday,

And from some fuckwit pretending to be Skinner, to add to the idiocy. (I emailed him all the particulars, of course, since this asshole was hiding behind his name.) Christ in a fucking teapot.

This person takes offense to my writings here and on my blog, and that is hardly a surprise. When one writes one's opinions and does so from a contrarian viewpoint and in a curmudgeonly tone, exception will frequently be taken. That is something I knew going into this undertaking, and is frequently a benefit: I learn a LOT from people who disagree with me.

But threats of violence and death from Right Wingnuts? Really? For saying "Putin sucks and so does war"? Such nonsense.

That is the background for today's post. As you'll see, I haven't exactly knuckled my forelock to this bullying dickweed. But we all need to know that lots of people read what we write here on DU, including trolls, lurkers, and unregistered readers.

When we think no one else is listening, and that we aren't having an impact, remember this post. There are more people reading here than we realize, and now and then we have an impact.

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/attention-all-violent-extremists-take-your-death-threats-and-shove-em-up-your-kazoos/

" Attention all violent extremists: take your death threats and shove ‘em up your kazoos.

Assuming you can get them past your heads, that is.

Mr. Blunt and Cranky got another threat from a Right wingnut yesterday in response to this post. Here is the stupid-f*** blowhard’s idiotic, infantile screed, submitted using someone else’s name and via a bogus AOL account:

One of the main reasons we should not go to war, not only now but anytime soon, is because Obama is an incompetent idiot. In facts, all liberals are incompetent idiots. If North Korea were to row over in canoes and invade the USA, and there’s a Dem/liberal in office, we should just let them do what they want. Anything democrats and libs would want to do would only be another screw up.

Putin is more intelligent than Obama can ever hope to be. At least until 2017, we’re stuck with a prez in office that’s as stupid as that riqster idiot at DU, and you can’t get any more stupid than him. In fact, ** better watch his mouth in response to this or he might just wake up one day to find out he’s dead. Got it, jackass? No, I’m not fucking kidding .


Judging from the IP address, this is either Born-Again Bill in a different location, or a kissing cousin of his. And his pathetic diatribe is as good an example of why this blog is needed as any: violent extremism in all of its forms, no matter the reason or cause, is wrong. And my writing promulgates the antithesis of the “reasoning” behind violent, extreme, “revolutionary” people and their organizations.

Radical Centrism is, in large part, the renunciation of murderous means in service of ideologies; both those I agree with, and those with whom I do not agree. Said extremism being exemplified here. This cyber-bullying skidmark on the Tightie-Whities of American Politics, with his stupid and impotent threats and fantasies of murdering anyone who does not agree with him 24/7/365, is well deserving of being flipped off, with a Bronx cheer as accompaniment.

Bullies should never be allowed to succeed, and unlike the kind and gentle practices advocated these days, your humble correspondent is a firm believer in whooping right back on that bully’s ass. This wussy-boy assassin wannabee who cowers behind other peoples’ identities whilst broadcasting ineffectual threats of bodily harm and death is just another bully. And an example of everything that is wrong with America in the modern age.

Instead of promising to kill a writer with whom he disagrees, the needledicked yutz could simply not f***ing read this blog. That is how free speech works: we have the right to speak, and we also have the right to not listen. There is no need to kill someone we don’t agree with: just ignore them. Problem solved, without first-degree murder having been committed.

Of course, the relevant authorities have been alerted, as well as AOL and the individual this toerag was impersonating. Including IP and email addresses and all that jazz. Not that I believe he has the testiclar fortitude to actually carry out his jackass threats, but it’s always a good idea to have the cops on your side when whackos rear their butt-ugly heads.
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So I get this death threat yesterday, (Original Post) riqster Mar 2014 OP
I got death threats on YouTube for telling them their Civic with a fart pipe snooper2 Mar 2014 #1
Really? What whiny wankers. riqster Mar 2014 #7
Known as a "Grapefruit Shooter" in Burlington, VT Mopar151 Mar 2014 #20
We call them "bumblebees" hereabouts. riqster Mar 2014 #35
LOL at that! Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #33
I had one... pipi_k Mar 2014 #62
Could be worse. I had a brown Gremlin. riqster Mar 2014 #64
I bet that's the last time you make fun of MY Civic. JoeyT Mar 2014 #79
Oh, yeah. I can think of LOTS of shit I've said that is a helluva lot more incendiary. riqster Mar 2014 #101
Sorry to hear that. You should make a police report too. I don't know if Cleita Mar 2014 #2
Already done. Thanks! riqster Mar 2014 #4
Pay no attention to the person behind the curtain. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #3
In this case, the cretin behind the curtain. riqster Mar 2014 #6
Damn! There are some seriously sick people out there! In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #9
They're all over the place. I don't know if there is more 'Crazy' today, or we just know about it RKP5637 Mar 2014 #129
What's the frequency Kenneth!!! Vinnie From Indy Mar 2014 #5
I'd "Rather" not find out. riqster Mar 2014 #8
I must say, your REM is excellent ;) brett_jv Mar 2014 #113
Totally new to me. Thanks! riqster Mar 2014 #120
Lets you know you are doing your job. Downwinder Mar 2014 #10
Yeah, that's my take. Pissed-off Wingnuts are our reward. riqster Mar 2014 #12
Congratulations..... Laxman Mar 2014 #11
This jackass thanks you. riqster Mar 2014 #13
Probably the same one who threatened me about dissing cheeseburgers. Not closeupready Mar 2014 #14
I've Eaten At A Few Places... Laxman Mar 2014 #15
LOL closeupready Mar 2014 #39
Cheeseburger hater! En garde! riqster Mar 2014 #16
Here's the one I received: closeupready Mar 2014 #45
If there is one, you can bet it's all done online. riqster Mar 2014 #48
www.boilerplatedeaththreats4u.com? LOL closeupready Mar 2014 #49
I bet there's an app for it! riqster Mar 2014 #54
The internet makes it so easy to be a tough guy! 7962 Mar 2014 #53
what about unionthug777 Mar 2014 #40
Welll, THAT! Harumph. That is a fate WORSE closeupready Mar 2014 #41
Good for you, riqster!! janlyn Mar 2014 #17
Thanks. There are a LOT of cockroaches out there. riqster Mar 2014 #19
No, not really nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #36
to an extent you are right. janlyn Mar 2014 #43
Well they are wearing me down nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #44
I am sorry to hear that they are wearing you down! janlyn Mar 2014 #46
I know, you are not nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #47
She has more fans than detractors here at DU! chknltl Mar 2014 #93
I hear that. riqster Mar 2014 #57
The problem is that I cannot do that here nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #58
Hugs. riqster Mar 2014 #63
No Doubt He's A Gun Owner otohara Mar 2014 #18
I dunno about that. We own guns, for pest control. riqster Mar 2014 #96
I've had death threats damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #21
It's also the calling card of... 47of74 Mar 2014 #23
I repost them on the Internet, along with a heaping scoopful of scorn. riqster Mar 2014 #27
How does one wake up dead, anyway? nyquil_man Mar 2014 #22
Reminds me of a favorite joke: riqster Mar 2014 #25
nah Phlem Mar 2014 #31
I do it every morning. winter is coming Mar 2014 #81
Per Miracle Max, that is only "Mostly Dead". riqster Mar 2014 #86
Does that mean I should be taking a chocolate-covered pill with my morning cup of joe? winter is coming Mar 2014 #89
A Holocaust Cloak in the shower, perhaps? riqster Mar 2014 #90
I will add that I have had death threats also rurallib Mar 2014 #24
Given the violent hate spewed out via the Foxverse, it is probably "normal" to Wingnuts. riqster Mar 2014 #97
If you have spent some time on the MIRT team like me then you know the idiots we have trying TeamPooka Mar 2014 #26
I'm sure. riqster Mar 2014 #29
Sorry for your experience Phlem Mar 2014 #28
Thanks. I use a VPN to mask my IP. riqster Mar 2014 #32
That is really sick get the red out Mar 2014 #30
Well, the cops have been duly informed. riqster Mar 2014 #34
Over email, amazing what some people will do NOT nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #37
I managed to avoid these types of threats (online, at least) until recently. riqster Mar 2014 #99
Oh I have learned a lot of things about that loon nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #100
I'm almost scared to hear about it. riqster Mar 2014 #102
I will put it this way... nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #103
Got it. I know such people. riqster Mar 2014 #104
We were also working in that universe nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #105
Oh wow. riqster Mar 2014 #106
Oh we all are. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #107
First death threat I got online was in '92... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #38
I'm at the "get off my lawn" age now, having turned 56 today. riqster Mar 2014 #98
What's scary is if you were born in 92 you were old enough to vote in the last election. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #114
Not so bad. I know some very sharp kids. riqster Mar 2014 #119
Sure, considering the Repugs started off the century with Bush and a fake war. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #132
What a total moran. geckosfeet Mar 2014 #42
This guy is a total tool. riqster Mar 2014 #51
If I'm not mistaken ... JEFF9K Mar 2014 #50
Yep, and liberals are "stupid", according to this jerkowitz. riqster Mar 2014 #95
I had a guy send me an anathema once Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #52
Damn, that is quite an honor! riqster Mar 2014 #76
Seems like he shouldve been reminded of W's "strong" response to the Georgian invasion 7962 Mar 2014 #55
Facts? Pshaw! riqster Mar 2014 #77
Pull the header information from the email mikeysnot Mar 2014 #56
Thanks! It's even better: riqster Mar 2014 #60
How do you wake up and find out you're dead? chrisa Mar 2014 #59
I dunno, maybe you're watching Fox News? riqster Mar 2014 #65
That's what I thought-wake up dead? packman Mar 2014 #123
Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #61
Thanks. It's an outlet. riqster Mar 2014 #66
Phew ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #69
To each their own, dude. riqster Mar 2014 #70
I'm not familar with ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #73
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #67
The difference between me and he is: riqster Mar 2014 #68
Well, be sure to let us know what "the law" says. SMC22307 Mar 2014 #71
Thank you for explaining that to the Cha Mar 2014 #84
Freaking wow! malaise Mar 2014 #72
Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic; but we knew th greiner3 Mar 2014 #74
I have a new band name now, thanks to you. riqster Mar 2014 #75
He's still using AOL? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #78
That is assuredly the case. riqster Mar 2014 #80
Probably a repeat troll, I've heard of 'death threat guy' from other posters. Rex Mar 2014 #82
Third time around for this yahoo. riqster Mar 2014 #91
I hope they can catch him/her...if it is the same person Rex Mar 2014 #109
Putin lovers are so simple minded.. Idiot didn't know it.. It's a compliment, riqster! Cha Mar 2014 #83
I hadn't thought of it that way! riqster Mar 2014 #87
Wow Catherine Vincent Mar 2014 #85
Oh nononononooooooo, they aren't racist. riqster Mar 2014 #88
I get almost daily death threats online. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #92
Only a few for me at this point. riqster Mar 2014 #94
Actually, after that thread the other day, I'd bet the violence-fantasizing troll is ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #108
Entirely possible, but hard to say. riqster Mar 2014 #115
He's jealous of your Tsiyu Mar 2014 #110
Thanks, never thought of that. riqster Mar 2014 #116
Welcome to the neo-Leninist/Stalinist death threat club! joshcryer Mar 2014 #111
Hey, remember, the first rule of Neo-Leninist/Stalinist Death Threat club is .... riqster Mar 2014 #117
K&R nolkyz Mar 2014 #112
T & Y riqster Mar 2014 #118
they're afraid, can't handle the complexity and uncertainty- it's a mental disease and this guy certainot Mar 2014 #121
I used to get death threats back when I was a very visible pro-choice activist and feminist. even niyad Mar 2014 #122
Thanks, and the same to you. riqster Mar 2014 #125
one of my friends calls me the phone warrior. she said, "other people get a cup of coffee and the niyad Mar 2014 #128
I like it. One of my friends calls me "word warrior". riqster Mar 2014 #130
oh, I love it. a friend once commented that my tongue should be registered as a lethal weapon. niyad Mar 2014 #131
cowardly ted 'shitpants' nugent type heaven05 Mar 2014 #124
Yup. Even curmudgeonly folk like me have friends. riqster Mar 2014 #127
Even when the argument is not political Right Wing nut jobs make death threats on a poltical basis. gordianot Mar 2014 #126

Mopar151

(9,992 posts)
20. Known as a "Grapefruit Shooter" in Burlington, VT
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:48 PM
Mar 2014

To the racer/pirate/mechanics who make the ProRally scene go 'round and 'round. Yes, the "Fast 'n Flatulent" idiots really do get that defensive, partly 'cuz the LAST thing they want you to know is how slow and pitiful their car really is.
And to continue the metaphor, or whatever the fuck this is, firing up the hot rod engine in my old truck scatters them like roaches in the light - what does the sound of racking a pump shotgun do to to a closet full of these gun jeeters?

riqster

(13,986 posts)
35. We call them "bumblebees" hereabouts.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:20 PM
Mar 2014

More annoying than a Justin Bieber song, but with even less machismo.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
79. I bet that's the last time you make fun of MY Civic.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 05:29 PM
Mar 2014


Almost all the ones I've gotten have been over the silliest things imaginable too. I can barely imagine getting that angry at all, much less over something that trivial.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
101. Oh, yeah. I can think of LOTS of shit I've said that is a helluva lot more incendiary.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:44 PM
Mar 2014

I mean, the post that so angered him pretty much boiled down to: "I don't like Putin, and I don't like war". Dafuq?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. Sorry to hear that. You should make a police report too. I don't know if
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:09 PM
Mar 2014

they consider internet threats dangerous but it won't hurt to ask.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
129. They're all over the place. I don't know if there is more 'Crazy' today, or we just know about it
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:11 PM
Mar 2014

more easily. I suspect the latter.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
113. I must say, your REM is excellent ;)
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:22 AM
Mar 2014

Hey Riq, you ever heard this tune?

It's as REM as you get w/o being REM.

Actually, not exactly ... since Peter Buck *is* playing on it ... which, in the first 10 seconds you'll go 'of course ... how could he NOT be?'



If you've never heard the album it's from called "The King is Dead", I highly recommend it to any REM fan. Buck plays on three songs, IIRC, and it's an absolutely start-to-finish brilliant disc.

The first line of the 2nd verse that goes

Heddy Green ... queen of supply-side bon-amie bone drab ... you know what I mean?

makes me so nostalgic for the days when all I listened to for hours and weeks on end was the new album Reckoning.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
11. Congratulations.....
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:25 PM
Mar 2014

this is bucket list material! You have actually incited some screwball with access to the internet to break the law using only words and logic. This is one of the limitations on the 1st Amendment. Can't threaten bodily harm or violence with the intent to alarm someone. It doesn't matter if its on the internet, over the phone or in person. You've actually done a public service. Pest identification and hopefully removal.

A terroristic threat is defined as a declaration of intent to commit a crime of violence against another with the intent of threatening a person, building, facility, or public or private habitat


that's a generic definition. The actual provisions vary from state-to-state.

Got it jackass?

riqster

(13,986 posts)
13. This jackass thanks you.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

I've told the cops, but since I use a VPN when online, most of these knuckle-dragging chucklefucks likely won't locate me. Not a big risk, but here's hoping this boyo gets a bitch-slap from a judge for his actions.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
14. Probably the same one who threatened me about dissing cheeseburgers. Not
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:48 PM
Mar 2014

not making that up - he sent me a scary PM about my view that French food is better than cheeseburgers and 'french' fries, yes, threatening me with a violent death.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
45. Here's the one I received:
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:46 PM
Mar 2014

>>hello dude

I'd gladly cut your windpipe in two and let you choke to death on your own f vcking blood, c v nt<<

For someone like myself, who was not in the military and thinks most 'horror' films are way too violent, this was "scary", lol. To be honest, it's actually mild in comparison to some other death threats I've seen elsewhere. (Is there, like, some kind of internet death threat training forum or something? lol)

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
53. The internet makes it so easy to be a tough guy!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:03 PM
Mar 2014

And it happens across all spectrums, too. I've seen some vile stuff on Facebook, every newspaper site, and even here on DU.

janlyn

(735 posts)
17. Good for you, riqster!!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:09 PM
Mar 2014

Bullies, like cockroaches tend to scatter when the light is turned on!!
I can just see him blubbering and crying to the authorities, that he didn't mean nuthin' by it!!
I applaud what you do. And as long as you are pissing them off, you know you are hitting the nail on the head.

janlyn

(735 posts)
43. to an extent you are right.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:42 PM
Mar 2014

I certainly see people single you out on here. And I see you stick up for yourself beautifully! I myself was constantly bullied in school, due to my Aspbergers, and didn't fight back. Only as an adult did I find the courage to stick up for myself as well as others. So I admire people such as yourself and riqster for not letting them get away with it. I have a theory that a large part of it is jealousy, people who feel inadequate and are therefore threatened by confidence and intelligence. Especially if it is coming from a woman.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
44. Well they are wearing me down
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:45 PM
Mar 2014

at the moment, but it's been been over 10 years of being targeted.

I also have another theory, proven by research. Child bullies grow up to be adult bullies. And I was also bullied in school.

janlyn

(735 posts)
46. I am sorry to hear that they are wearing you down!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:51 PM
Mar 2014

If it helps any at all for every bully you have on here, you have someone like me who enjoys reading your thoughts and opinions.
If I met you in person, I would be compelled to give you a hug! And believe me when I say that is a high compliment, as I am not
a fan of physical affection being an aspie.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
93. She has more fans than detractors here at DU!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:01 PM
Mar 2014

You can count me in as one of her fans too. Over the years nadinbrzezinski has well earned both my attention and my respect. We are lucky to have many enlightened DUers like nadinbrzezinski sharing their thoughts here.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
57. I hear that.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:12 PM
Mar 2014

I was bullied a bit until I decided to hit back. After that, it took one incident per school for the word to get around: "that dorky little asshole is nuts. Don't fuck with him".

I know, it's not the enlightened way of dealing with bullies. But hey, fuck 'em. They chose to attack us, we did not choose to be attacked.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
58. The problem is that I cannot do that here
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:13 PM
Mar 2014

and in school when I did that, I faced the principal. The school bus driver saved my bacon by the way.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
18. No Doubt He's A Gun Owner
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:16 PM
Mar 2014

the gun gives them an extra shot of testosterone to lash out and make deadly threats.

Drivers with guns in their cars are especially dangerous.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
96. I dunno about that. We own guns, for pest control.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:29 PM
Mar 2014

We do NOT want another animal killed and carried off by a feral dog, or bitten by a rabid raccoon, coyote, etcetera.

Heartbreaking, plus we owe our fur people that much at least: the best protection and health we can provide. Seeing as how humans have totally fucked the ecosystem, we actually owe them a lot more than that.

Having said that, there are some truly freaky-deeky gun owners out there.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
21. I've had death threats
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:49 PM
Mar 2014

from people like this so I supplied them with my address and so far nobody has taken the opportunity to pop in for a friendly visit. I consider an online death threat a calling card from a coward.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
27. I repost them on the Internet, along with a heaping scoopful of scorn.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:00 PM
Mar 2014

Public shaming never goes out of style.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
22. How does one wake up dead, anyway?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:50 PM
Mar 2014

I'm not trying to take this lightly, but the phrasing makes it sound as though he's threatening to turn you into a zombie.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
25. Reminds me of a favorite joke:
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:57 PM
Mar 2014

Q:What did it say on the Bluesman's tombstone?

A:"I DIDN'T wake up this mornin'. "

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
89. Does that mean I should be taking a chocolate-covered pill with my morning cup of joe?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:43 PM
Mar 2014

Hmm... chocolate...

Although that would make the morning shower a little tough, since I wouldn't be able to go in the water for an hour afterwards...

rurallib

(62,433 posts)
24. I will add that I have had death threats also
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:56 PM
Mar 2014

The local police have a file opened for me.
These people are just so pathetic. Plus I get they believe death threats are a normal course of dialog.

TeamPooka

(24,239 posts)
26. If you have spent some time on the MIRT team like me then you know the idiots we have trying
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:59 PM
Mar 2014

to disrupt our peace here.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
28. Sorry for your experience
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:02 PM
Mar 2014

remember trolls hang out here. I ran into 2 of them in less than a week.

"or he might just wake up one day to find out he’s dead." Wake up to find out he's dead? Total Republican.

Be careful out there bud. Seems we get more tense as a nation everyday.

-p

riqster

(13,986 posts)
32. Thanks. I use a VPN to mask my IP.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:04 PM
Mar 2014

I recommend the practice, and mourn the necessity of it.

"Let's all be safe out there."

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
30. That is really sick
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:02 PM
Mar 2014

It takes some serious rage for someone to do this sort of thing. Why do people make death threats because they disagree with someone else? It's just horrible! A blog I really enjoyed years ago was shut down because of some serious death threats made to the author via email. Very sick stuff! I forget how much this happens until it happens yet again to someone else.

I hope they find the person who did this. They might as well go to jail, since they obviously have no life.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. Over email, amazing what some people will do NOT
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:23 PM
Mar 2014

Nothing shocks me or surprises me any longer, and glad you did file a police report.

The first bully I got was over usenet, back then the police did nothing. These days, they take it a tad more seriously.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
99. I managed to avoid these types of threats (online, at least) until recently.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:36 PM
Mar 2014

Must be my charm, diplomacy, perfect etiquette and delicate phrase-ology, yup.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
100. Oh I have learned a lot of things about that loon
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:42 PM
Mar 2014

that person even sent us a lovely gift, before Norton's existed.

Suffice it to say, I actually did not wish her ill.

I have a theory, being an opinionated woman, with a masters degree, attracts them. Add to that my very unusual life experience, which gives me a broad set of skills.

Hell, I am happy that was the only time I ever attracted one willing to go that far. And the best part, it was over a game, no seriously, it was over a game. If you ever want the full skinny, will give it to you over email

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
103. I will put it this way...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:52 PM
Mar 2014

Some people take fictional worlds more seriously than the real world. I mean, to the point of investing their personas in them.

If you are the author of a fictional world, like I am doing right at the moment, it makes some sense to take it personally and try to think like your characters, and see things from their point of view and world experience. If you are a fan, and you treat it almost...as a religion...

It was entertaining to discuss the machievelian twists and turns, once the virus flew we knew we were not dealing with somebody who was ok.

For the record, the lesson I took from that is that politics cannot, should not, become like religion. When I see people treating it the same way as those gamers, it is quite frankly scary.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
104. Got it. I know such people.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:02 AM
Mar 2014

I do my best to structure our interactions, I guess you'd say: to meet them in a way that minimizes the conflict between their reality and mine.

Because some of them are awesome people. In their way, in their world.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
105. We were also working in that universe
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:05 AM
Mar 2014

So it got worst since we were a direct threat to her. I am newly in contact with the editor. She is great. We both have walked away from that industries for many other reasons.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
107. Oh we all are.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:10 AM
Mar 2014

It was funny when they asked us to go back, we can sell the game. Kind of working with a contract was not in their way. I advise young writers and creatives to stay away from the gaming industry.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
51. This guy is a total tool.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:03 PM
Mar 2014

Figured out he is the same a-hole who threatened me before. Not difficult to put the pieces together. The Asheville cops, Verizon and AOL have all been notified.

Guys like this one have a self-esteem problem: too much of it, and largely unjustified.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
50. If I'm not mistaken ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:02 PM
Mar 2014

If I'm not mistaken ... liberals won WWII and ended the Great Republican Depression, which was caused by economic policies that conservatives still believe in.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
52. I had a guy send me an anathema once
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:03 PM
Mar 2014

It was awesome. I was doing my then-job, modding on the net's biggest religion site, and some lunatic took such offence that he sent me a formal Catholic anathema. I was overjoyed, I've printed it out and stuck it above my desk.

The book I'm currently working on includes, at the end of the introduction: "And to any nutters I've mortally offended: I'm the big bearded guy chain-smoking. Be sure and shoot straight".

riqster

(13,986 posts)
76. Damn, that is quite an honor!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 05:06 PM
Mar 2014

Never heard of such a thing, other than as something somebody really hates. Didn't know it was a Church denunciation.

Thanks for the education!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
55. Seems like he shouldve been reminded of W's "strong" response to the Georgian invasion
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:08 PM
Mar 2014

Wait, there wasnt one. Vlad still controls the 2 regions of Georgia taken while Bush was president? Where was the big response then?

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
56. Pull the header information from the email
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:08 PM
Mar 2014

it will have his/her/it's IP address in it.

Do an Arin IP look-up of the number.. it is usually like this:

123.123.123.123

http://whois.arin.net/ui upper right cornet put the IP in

find out who the IsP for the address is.

Go to their website, and find a contact number/email for the ISP and report the user.

Send full header information, cut and paste the email address and send them the info.

Then send it to the FBI.

ms

riqster

(13,986 posts)
60. Thanks! It's even better:
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:17 PM
Mar 2014

Wordpress records IPs of commenters. Already forwarded to the constabulary, his ISP and AOL.

Motherfucker's in the Asheville, NC area. Used to use a static IP, now is oh-so-cleverly using a wireless device.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
123. That's what I thought-wake up dead?
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:29 AM
Mar 2014

Maybe turn into a zombie, if you do don't go looking for conservatives-you'll starve to death.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
61. Wow ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:22 PM
Mar 2014

Nutz do what nutz do.

BTW, I've book-mark the blog ... Great reading and writing with a flair ... Love it.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
69. Phew ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:06 PM
Mar 2014

Rock Music ... If it was hip hop and Florida ... You'd be a dangerous living soul, thug music AND blog writing!

riqster

(13,986 posts)
70. To each their own, dude.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:08 PM
Mar 2014

I am a child of the 60's and early 70's. Marshalls, Ampegs, and the like, all turned to eleven!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
73. I'm not familar with ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:22 PM
Mar 2014

any of those bands, even though I lived in a very rocky (read: white guys listening to rock) world during the late 60 a nd throughout the 70s.

Response to riqster (Original post)

riqster

(13,986 posts)
68. The difference between me and he is:
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:57 PM
Mar 2014

I haven't committed a crime by threatening to kill someone.

Maybe that isn't a big deal to you, but it is where the law is concerned.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
71. Well, be sure to let us know what "the law" says.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:09 PM
Mar 2014

Again, has the one (supposedly) threatening you figured out your identity, or are you blogging anonymously?

Where else besides DU do you pimp your blog? I'm not aware of others posters doing that, but for that Spandan dude, and he didn't last long.

Cha

(297,465 posts)
84. Thank you for explaining that to the
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:12 PM
Mar 2014

poster.. the difference between the asshole spewing death threats and you, who reported it, riqster. Looks like the hate clouded their ability to understand simple concepts.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
74. Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic; but we knew th
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:39 PM
Mar 2014

"In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls (who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences, leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of scientific topics.

That’s bad, but it’s nothing compared with what a new psychology paper has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves. The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).

It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations, sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior. What’s more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits (except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent, per day, commenting on the Internet.

In the study, trolls were identified in a variety of ways. One was by simply asking survey participants what they “enjoyed doing most” when on online comment sites, offering five options: “debating issues that are important to you,” “chatting with others,” “making new friends,” “trolling others,” and “other.” Here’s how different responses about these Internet commenting preferences matched up with responses to questions designed to identify Dark Tetrad traits:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html

The paper adds that they only found 5.6% of those questioned admitted to trolling.

There's a graph showing the breakdown of the different types of Internet users and then the breakdown within these of the 'Dark Tetrads' (I'm going to have to remember that term; it rocks).

Sadists are the most prevalent of the Dark Tetrads and in their comments in the write-up wrote the following;

“Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!”

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
82. Probably a repeat troll, I've heard of 'death threat guy' from other posters.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 05:41 PM
Mar 2014

I wish they could catch the perp.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
91. Third time around for this yahoo.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:09 PM
Mar 2014

Three different email addresses to try and hide his tracks. An escalating level of violent rhetoric over time, that's why I called the cops in on this one.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
109. I hope they can catch him/her...if it is the same person
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:52 AM
Mar 2014

then they've been targeting DUers for years and years.

Cha

(297,465 posts)
83. Putin lovers are so simple minded.. Idiot didn't know it.. It's a compliment, riqster!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 05:59 PM
Mar 2014

You're as stupid as the President.. who isn't stupid at all. In fact very intelligent. the both of you.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
108. Actually, after that thread the other day, I'd bet the violence-fantasizing troll is
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:13 AM
Mar 2014

someone right here on DU that sent that email.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
115. Entirely possible, but hard to say.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:57 AM
Mar 2014

I emailed Skinner with the mutt's IP and suchlike. Hopefully that helps.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
116. Thanks, never thought of that.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 07:00 AM
Mar 2014

Truth to tell , I gig with cheap Squiers these days, after having a couple of priceless vintage instruments stolen.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
111. Welcome to the neo-Leninist/Stalinist death threat club!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:22 AM
Mar 2014

I've gotten several myself (not over Ukraine, surprisingly enough).

riqster

(13,986 posts)
117. Hey, remember, the first rule of Neo-Leninist/Stalinist Death Threat club is ....
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 07:03 AM
Mar 2014

Ooopsie, I talked about it, didn't I? Crap.


niyad

(113,498 posts)
122. I used to get death threats back when I was a very visible pro-choice activist and feminist. even
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:54 AM
Mar 2014

had death threats from the kkk before iwy, and was assaulted during a roe v wade rally, with the cops doing absolutely nothing. such is the price we pay for actually caring and speaking out.

very proud of you for what you do.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
125. Thanks, and the same to you.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:48 AM
Mar 2014

Coronary circumstances dictate a less physically active role these days, so I try to put that emphatic energy into my writing.

niyad

(113,498 posts)
128. one of my friends calls me the phone warrior. she said, "other people get a cup of coffee and the
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:10 PM
Mar 2014

paper. she gets the coffee and the phone"

niyad

(113,498 posts)
131. oh, I love it. a friend once commented that my tongue should be registered as a lethal weapon.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:16 PM
Mar 2014

saves wear and tear on the nails.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
124. cowardly ted 'shitpants' nugent type
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:47 AM
Mar 2014

but please watch your back. I wish I was a close friend. Hope they have your back. Can never be too careful with the cowardly wingnut wackos running around in the streets of 'gunland' america.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
127. Yup. Even curmudgeonly folk like me have friends.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:57 AM
Mar 2014

The cops in the nutjob's area are being very responsive as well.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
126. Even when the argument is not political Right Wing nut jobs make death threats on a poltical basis.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:49 AM
Mar 2014

My brother in law on a family matter threatened his sisters life my wife then called her a Democrat. If it were not so ludicrious to match a death threat with what he considered a vile insult I actually might have laughed longer. My response was for him to leave immediately with "five minutes to clear out safely". That was about 6 years ago no response since.

I really think that such threats are macho chickenshit bluster. As for my brother in law an attempt to approach us again will be viewed as a hostile act.

As to making a threat online be careful at least you have written evidence. I did report the threat my brother in law made to the Police. That he has not returned contact since that day works in my favor

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