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During his speech at the DNC, President Obama was interrupted by a heckler who claimed that he is planning a nuclear war with Russia. The presidents reaction was priceless.
Transcript:
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Mr. Obama!
THE PRESIDENT: I consider Republicans patriots who love this country just as much as we do.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Tell us about your plans for nuclear war with Russia!
THE PRESIDENT: Im sorry, whos that back there? (Laughter.) What the heck are you talking about? (Applause.)
AUDIENCE: Obama! Obama! Obama!
THE PRESIDENT: No, no, dont worry about it. Were okay. Have a seat. I dont know anything about that plan. (Laughter.) I dont know what youve been reading. (Laughter.) Let me return to what I was talking about. (Applause.) See, he thought happy hour started earlier. (Laughter and applause.)
The look on President Obamas face was priceless. If that wasnt the ultimate WTF look, I dont know what is. When protesters have an issue that they care about, this president has been very generous in letting them speak. However, this particular heckler was a crackpot. President Obama doesnt want to go to war with Russia. He most definitely has no interest in starting a nuclear war. This isnt the Cold War. Obama isnt going to nuke Russia over the events in Ukraine. Its silly to think that is a possibility.
It is even less likely to happen because the president made a statement today that emphasised that the consequences for Russias actions in Ukraine will come from the international community. For the millionth time, Barack Obama is not George W. Bush. Even George W. Bush wasnt cowboy enough to threaten to drop a nuke on somebody. This heckler was a bit of a paranoid freak, and the president handled this individuals rude interruption incredibly well.
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/28/president-obama-brilliantly-heckler-thinks-blow-russia.html
Mika
(17,751 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)oo charitable towards the Repugs.
SunSeeker
(51,560 posts)As Obama said (and caught huge amounts of shit for) back in 2008 during the Dem primary re conservatives: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them as a way to explain their frustrations."
I think the ensuing shitstorm chastened him to be more charitable toward Republicans.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)irisblue
(32,980 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Same Republicans who let our credit rating drop?
Same Republicans who shut down the government out of spite?
F- that
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)And believe it or not, I remember back in 2006, there being calls on the D.U. to shut down the government if Bush didn't immediately do everything the Democrats wanted. Just like the Tea Party tried to do to President Obama.
I remember this because I remember telling those D.U.ers that such an act would absolutely destroy the Democratic brand and ruin the massive wave election that we were due to have in 2006 and 2008. Much as the Republican brand has been harmed due to Tea Party antics.
Those people are still around today - having tantrums about Democrats, for not doing some other stupid act of gesture politics.
So it goes both ways.
The difference is that GOP lunatics are running the Republican show. Democratic lunatics rant ineffectually on websites.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Bush started an illegal war, opened up a gulag, authorized torture, and was gradually collapsing the economy. Democrats had every right to be pissed about that.
Tea Partiers shut down the government because of expanded healthcare coverage. Not the same thing by a long shot.
Thank you for the truth, and for pointing out that President Obama was attempting to be charitable.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)without demanding wholesale prices for govt, nullified all state mortgage laws to make Liar Loans legal, doubled the national debt to $12 trillion after given a surplus by Clinton and more. One man wrecking ball.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)...about whether you feel you have the "right to be pissed" or not. They will punish anyone who throws a tantrum. Period.
And let me be very clear about this. The "War on Terror" started out as a very popular sort of issue. It gradually became less popular as the Bush Administration's overreaching and incompetence became apparent. The ACA, on the other hand, started out as an extremely unpopular law. Only about now, three years after its real benefits are being felt, is it gradually losing its unpopularity (though it still isn't above water).
Extremists like the Tea Party and quite a few DUers, essentially want politicians to not act as if they are in a Democracy - to do what they think should be done, regardless of how the public feels about it. But because of elections, politicians can only do so much of that and remain in power.
You can cry "false equivalence" until the cows come home, but that's the plain truth of the matter.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)away with slavery. (Yeah, I know Lincoln was an R. Completely beside the point.)
To them it's been all downhill from there, what with Women's suffrage, the New, the EPA, the FDA, etc., etc., etc...
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)It's a nice thing to say, even though it's obviously bullshit. Politicians have to spout lots of diplomatic bullshit. It's part of the job description.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I sure don't hear any of them saying nice, diplomatic bullshit about Obama or any other Democrat, ever. And yet they control the House. So 'have to' is clearly an exaggeration when 'wants to' would be the accurate description.
I'd like to point out that Republicans in more than one State have been trying to legalize extra discrimination against my community, so to claim they love Americans as much as Democrats do is either horrifically false or an admission that the DNC does not really mind the bigotry, the voter suppression, the racism that the GOP deals in. 'They are just like us' is not a good thing to say when 'they' are engaged in mugging minority groups for their rights.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)Right now they're mostly trying to appeal to the type of voter who would go for Atilla the Hun if he were running, so they're trying to outdo each other in who can say the most outrageous crap. They still will turn on the diplomatic bullshit when it serves their purposes.
Democratic voters usually aren't going for barbaric hordes, so Democratic politicians tend to try to comport themselves in a more civilized fashion.
What any politician actually believes about anything, I generally have no fucking idea.
rock
(13,218 posts)Oh, if only they could have their theocracy!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)uponit7771
(90,346 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Shadow People and Crop Circles.
My fav was "Rods".
freshwest
(53,661 posts)secondvariety
(1,245 posts)have been full of it, but his show made many a midnight shift tolerable for me. It was entertaining in a loopy sort of way.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)his administration is responsible for some piss poor policies.
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)You always do~
Whisp
(24,096 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)His legacy will never recover after that.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)all which administration you've lived through that made every perfect decision imaginable? If you're going to spend your entire life chasing perfection you will miss out on plenty of greatness.
cali
(114,904 posts)President Obama is fine on social issues. On economic and trade issues he's a moderate to a conservative.
You adore anything he says or does. cult of personality is your thing. It's not mine. I'm policy oriented. His policies are largely corporate in nature, in the sense that they benefit the corporate world far more than the the working and middle classes.
I understand that this doesn't bother you and your ilk one little bit.
Personally, I think that's pretty awful.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)secondvariety
(1,245 posts)Good one.
Whisp
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Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)You remind me of this old lady who used to live next to my grandma. She was sweet and nice, but always said awkward and out of place things. Like, I'd be over at her house raking leaves and we'd be talking about school and all the sudden, she'd just jump into a conversation about birds. Mid-sentence, even. I loved her, but yeah, it was annoying at times.
Cha
(297,275 posts)"I don't know what you been readin".. and there it is.
What was he suppose to say.. "Too many republicons are brainwashed idiots and are trying to drive their country into the abyss"? No.
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)funny or what, she? "Early Happy Hour"! Rofl
she~
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)pic? Brawawawawaaaa! I stole it.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)huh?
that look is PRICELESS
Keeper!
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)I can see many great captions on this one considering his ridiculously frustrating 5 years in office with the GOP clowns constantly opposing anything he says or does.
Cha
(297,275 posts)[font size=lg]"I don't know what you been readin'..?"[/font]
Not just the GOP.. who would be asking if he's going to bomb Russia? libertarian, la rouche.. as someone asked up thread "what's his DU handle?"
Bless his heart.. he's so sincere and he's got a world full of buckets of shit to deal with..
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,218 posts)"I don't know what you been smoking," regarding the heckler.
Cha
(297,275 posts)they?!
That says it all!!
MindMover
(5,016 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)All for Freedumb! Oh, and don't you start, now. Behave!
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)sheshe2
(83,785 posts)rurallib
(62,416 posts)his marvelous understated sense of humor.
I am sure the often almost hostile atmosphere since he has been in office has caused him to choose his words very, very carefully so that some off-handed remark doesn't get him crucified on TV and in the press. Sure I know FUX and their ilk are not above making shit up, but then they can't bring up the tape. The comment about "you didn't do it yourself" is a fine example of how low they can go.
The reason I mention this is that I was just on the cusp of being a teenager when Jack Kennedy was president. His sense of humor was so keen and so -well- funny that we would talk over Kennedy humor at the lunch table. He was even funnier than the comedians who tried to satirize him (Q- What do you think of Vaughn Meder (kennedy mimic? A - I think he sounds much more like Teddy than me)
I think Obama has that kind of sense of humor and am really sorry we haven't been allowed to see that side of him. Had he had the freedom accorded other presidents, I am sure that Obama witty remarks would be one of the many great legacies of this president.
Once again the asshole republicans have fucked things up.
This ought to be a thread.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)Another thing I noticed was that Obama looked like he aged a lot since I last saw him. I guess the increased gray is the reason.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)LOL
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Just silly.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)seek help.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Google "Budapest Memorandum 1994."
When the Soviet Union collapsed, suddenly Ukraine -- home to a major part of the Soviet nuclear arsenal -- became the third largest nuclear power in the world.
The US, Russia, and UK signed the Budapest Memorandum that set up a protocol to remove nukes from Ukraine and agreeing that all sides would not muck about in Ukraine, etc., etc.http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine._Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
With the violence in Ukraine spreading, and Russian troops "exercising" near their border with Ukraine, the rightwing propaganda machine is all a'twitter, beating the war drums, claiming that we are bound by a "treaty" to come to Ukraine's aid.
Weasel Zippers, a rightwing site about as reliable as Breitbart, is close to claiming the Budapest Memorandum pledges the US will commit troops to stop a Russian invasion of Ukraine -- it doesn't do any such thing but try to sway a rightwinger with facts.
http://weaselzippers.us/177483-budapest-memorandum-treaty-signed-in-1994-may-commit-u-s-britain-to-defend-ukraine/
The loony British "Daily Mail" says the Budapest Memorandum pledges Great Britain to send troops to defend Ukraine.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570335/Former-British-Ambassador-Moscow-warns-Russia-invaded-Ukraine-difficult-avoid-going-war.html
Variations on this theme are all over the rightwing media outlets.
I suspect the heckler had been watching too much Fox.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The combined military spending of all NATO members constitutes over 70% of the world's defence spending...
Article 5 of the North Atlantic treaty, requiring member states to come to the aid of any member state subject to an armed attack, was invoked for the first and only time after the 11 September 2001 attacks,[5] after which troops were deployed to Afghanistan under the NATO-led ISAF. The organization has operated a range of additional roles since then, including sending trainers to Iraq, assisting in counter-piracy operations[6] and in 2011 enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya in accordance with U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973.
The less potent Article 4, which merely invokes consultation among NATO members, has been invoked four times: by Turkey in 2003 over the Iraq War, twice in 2012 by Turkey over the Syrian Civil War after the downing of an unarmed Turkish F-4 reconnaissance jet and after a mortar was fired at Turkey from Syria[7] and by Poland in 2014 following the Russian intervention in Crimea...[8][4]
The members agreed that an armed attack against any one of them in Europe or North America would be considered an attack against them all. Consequently they agreed that, if an armed attack occurred, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence, would assist the member being attacked, taking such action as it deemed necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. The treaty does not require members to respond with military action against an aggressor. Although obliged to respond, they maintain the freedom to choose the method by which they do so.
This differs from Article IV of the Treaty of Brussels, which clearly states that the response will be military in nature. It is nonetheless assumed that NATO members will aid the attacked member militarily. The treaty was later clarified to include both the member's territory and their "vessels, forces or aircraft" above the Tropic of Cancer, including some Overseas departments of France.[13]
In other words, the strong will protect the weak, like Estonia, who is a member of NATO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO
An link to an interesting piece on NATO's current role in the world is below, and it explains a great many questions we see on DU. Such as why are Navy SEALS doing this or that overseas. It explains everything Obama has done abroad. It's worth the read for those who ask those things and don't know why Obama does what he does, which is his duty under the Constitution:
http://www.un-arm.org/PoAISS/GlobalOrganization.aspx?GlobalOrganizationId=2
That's from this thread:
Moscow signals concern for Russians in Estonia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014759557
NATO's already on the case from the above, where it notes Poland has already called in its marker in NATO, and other nations no doubt will. Ukraine did not want to, or was not allowed to join NATO. I think the scenario would be much different if it had been
Additional note, the lease on Russia's Crimean port facilities is good through 2047. Thought that was the reason for this action, but a poster says that means it's not an issue.
Unless one believes that they are looking past that date. But there is no discounting the ethnic issues, IMO. Russian nationals I know take it very seriously, as they do anything that would cost them territory.
You might want to share the NATO influence and the part in the other link about how Obama is acting within the framework of treaties to any feral Dittoheads you happen to come across. Although the chance you will get through to a well-indoctrinated Dittohead or resident of Glennbeckistan, isn't that high.
I hope you don't have to deal with any fundies who are looking for Jesus to return after a war between Gog and Magog. That has been a tenet of some of them mixing Israel, Russia and China. They seek the Apocalypse in all the news.
Thanks for your information, but NATO is privy to all those agreements and its charter supercedes them as its role in the world has evolved.
JI7
(89,250 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)There are bagger freaks on street corners preaching this same shite. They have impeach obama signs and pictures of him with a little Hitler mustache.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)You live here too. Many are further behind than that.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)since the summer when people were on overpasses.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Response to Segami (Original post)
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The brilliance is so bright you need sunglasses! Bet they didn't even haul the guy out, as the Bush junta would have done.
Cha
(297,275 posts)Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I think that may have made my month. Only time will tell. Awesome
Ya gotta love this guy.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Probably some libertarian tea bagger idiot!
Hekate
(90,708 posts)The heckler got his 15 seconds of fame. If any here want to do the necessary research, I'm sure he's bragging to his little friends online about how he sure told the POTUS.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Republicans most definitely do NOT love our country.
If they did they wouldn't try to make an end run around democracy with voter suppression.
They wouldn't reward corporations with subsidies while they outsource jobs and lower wages.
They wouldn't reject infrastructure (brain farting right now on the term for rebuilding our economy and infrastructure.... ugh)
They wouldn't insult the vets who fight for our country with multiple tours of duty, bad pay and bad benefits while paying contractors who work beside the troops much more.
They wouldn't deny climate change exists and allow all the unregulated pollution, they would care about taking care of the environment here (let alone of the whole planet).
Etc... etc... etc...
Now to be fair, Dems are only slightly better. Corporate control of our country is ruining it and the planet.