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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_REL_MORMONS_AFTERLIFE_PLANETS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-02-27-16-44-56Feb 27, 4:44 PM EST
Mormons: People don't get own planets in afterlife
By BRADY McCOMBS
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- The Mormon Church is pushing back against the notion that members of the faith are taught they'll get their own planet in the afterlife, a misconception popularized in pop culture most recently by the Broadway show "The Book of Mormon."
A newly-posted article affirms the faith's belief that humans can become like God in eternity, but says the "cartoonish image of people receiving their own planets" is not how members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints envision it.
"While few Latter-day Saints would identify with caricatures of having their own planet, most would agree that the awe inspired by creation hints at our creative potential in the eternities," the article says.
The expectation of exaltation is more figurative and ambiguous than boiling it down to living on one planet, it says.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)hunter
(38,322 posts)None left for the rest of 'em.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)notion of eternity with our incredibly short life spans as experience.
Mike Nelson
(9,961 posts)...we are discovering new planets at a rapid pace; people would begin to wonder why none are inhabited by Mormons.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Response to jsr (Original post)
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yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)way more fucked up than that!"
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)We'll still make sure you at least get a really nice home and a new car, and a few wives if you are a man, a few sister wives if you are a woman, and maybe your own ranch.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)I'm hoping to get Uranus, but I hear the waiting list is pretty long.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Because you just gave me a nerdgasm.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)What is it?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Bazinga
(331 posts)To mock? To belittle? To be sure everyone knows just how "weird"someone else's beliefs are?
I thought we had a religion forum for that.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)n/t
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Given what it's actually mocking and belittling, not so sure that the mockery is so very cold-hearted as all that.
FreeState
(10,575 posts)You now that never changing eternal doctrine, which has now changed via a press release and not a revelation to the Prophet?
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)gerogie2
(450 posts)Uhh! Religion is always changing the damn rules.
FreeState
(10,575 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)previous teachings.
In other words, nothing is really absolute in their religion.
FreeState
(10,575 posts)Never mind their teachings are eternal and unchanging, but the only way for doctrine to change in the Church is for the Prophet to have a revelation about it. That did not happen here, its all BS marketing.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I think this thread is pretty much just an excuse to make fun of Mormons. There are other places to bash religion.
FreeState
(10,575 posts)has changed one of it's official eternal unchanging doctrines - one that is 100% reliant on their teachings regarding Marriage. That's not making fun of them, that's pointing out the hypocrisy and untruths of the church.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)The Mormons bizarre beliefs on some issues leave themselves wide open to commentary and criticism. If you can't deal with it you're on the wrong site...
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Thanks for putting it so succinctly lordsummerisle.
Bryant
LisaL
(44,974 posts)I really wanted that planet. And I am not even a mormon.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,843 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Keep whining and we'll make it one with a wobbly orbit.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)They're willing to edit their "beliefs" to make them more palatable to others, or to appear to be less insane. No shellfish became Shellfish is Fine. A Man Should Never Shave became It's Ok to Shave. No Meat on Fridays became, Meat is Ok on Fridays. No Driving on Sabbath became Park Around the Corner from the Temple and walk the last 40 yards on Sabbath.
I'm not mocking the religious, but poking a little fun at how certain aspects can be edited for comfort or the times, yet other doctrine are so steadfast that they'll be strictly adhered to.... until word comes from on high to edit those as well. The trick is not to deviate from the dogma before the ones in charge decide it's Ok.
I'll be over here burning in Hell.... except that I don't believe in Hell
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I just think it's such an incredible missed opportunity to get LOADS of converts cos if I looked in that hat and saw angel-tongue I'd SO want to join. Silly Moroni.
Unless, of course, the Heavenly Bureau of Gospel Credibility Subtraction is out in force on that one, ensuring that conversion to Faith remains an article of Faith rather than some trivial process of just reading instructions.
In which case, you know, bummer. I guess I'll just have to carry on wrestling with Doubt.
Dammit, Lord! Your faith tests are hard.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)i was going to name my planet Summermoon
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)They'll say anything to hide their odder ideas.
FreeState
(10,575 posts)are you a taxi driver?
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)be kinda lonely there.
AnnieBW
(10,440 posts)The "pleasure planet" from Star Trek.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,843 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)but FORGET it now. (maybe I could get my own black hole? I just read in Time that if you approached the event horizon of one you would be suspended in time indefinately by the enormous gravitational forces...as close to living forever as I can figure. If you can just avoid being torn apart...)
DireStrike
(6,452 posts)He's done a good job so far with the ones he made.
agentS
(1,325 posts)NASA, ESA, M. Kornmesser
HD 189773b's outward appearance is deceptive. At first glance, it's probably the closest to Earth's distinctly habitable look that you'll find: another plain old blue ball, no rings or flames or unyielding blackness. It looks like it might even have clouds or sentient alien life forms that haven't yet discovered what irredeemable assholes we are. Why aren't we on our way there yet?!
Unfortunately, HD 189773b is a bit of a cosmic exploration cocktease. Far from habitable, HD 189773b is a planet where it literally rains shards of glass.
HD 189773b has a large amount of silicate particles in its atmosphere that happen to scatter blue light. This blue coloring is made all the more prominent when temperatures on the planet (roughly the same ones as those inside a volcano) condense the silicate particles into glass and fling them down and sideways at speeds up to 4,000 mph. Yep: a global glass tornado. That's a premise so outlandish, even SyFy wouldn't touch it. So while it may look like a lovely vacation spot, just remember that HD 189773b is not so much a planet as it is the largest blender in the known universe.
Perfect for those who enjoy their smoothies with a generous helping of hypersonic glass shards.
They probably had to change their ideas because almost all the planets we (I) have found are cosmic-horror death worlds of awesomeness.