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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsQuestion on tolerance; should you be tolerant of intolerant people?
IMO no more than one would tolerate a thief.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)Bigotry backed by religion is still bigotry.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Everyone is entitled to their opinion until it impinges on your freedom.
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)People entitle themselves to opinions regarding things about which they are NOT entitled all the time.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)some of those things evolve into action but many don't.
A friend of mine for instance used to hate Catholicism, but he didn't advocate banning Catholics from restaurants or whatever. (Funnily enough he is now converting to Catholicism but that's another story).
So, we have to accept that some people have bigoted opinions but we shouldn't accept them putting their bigoted opinions into law (because once you go down that road what's to stop someone from putting a law against them, or any of us, onto the books?)
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)anybody who advocates legal discrimination against folks based on their gender or their race or their sexual orientation probably can't be tolerated; or at least such tolerance shouldn't extend to agreeing with or silently going along with what they advocate.
On the other hand, many people here probably do have relatives or friends who say stupid stuff from time to time - including bigoted statements (I know that some of you don't tolerate that at all, and good for you). Should you cut such people out of your life? Or should you challenge them in a spirit of friendship to reevaluate their situation.
There's a saying from Christianity that might apply - Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner. If you really want people to change, maybe being their friend while underlining how some of their statements or opinions are wrong might be more productive than cutting yourself off from them.
Bryant
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And where does that saying come from?
That is a candy-coating for Christians who might feel bad about the fact that most everyone around them in their daily life is going to Hell.
God doesn't "punish the sin and not the sinner". No, it's the sinner who is going to eternal torment, not the sin.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I do think it's more than just candy coating though; I think it's an argument about how one should approach those who are sinning.
Bryant
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)He hung out with prostitutes, and tax collectors and all sorts of very imperfect people. He loved them, even while he wanted them to change their ways.
Christians are admonished to love the sinner, because if you don't, you hate everybody, including yourself.
wocaonimabi
(187 posts)If they are going to act like an asshat in public.
If you do not like some thing stay away from it.
I do not like church so I avoid churches and religious people.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Intolerance is the antithesis of tolerance. You either follow one path, or the other. It's like a person who loves, loving hate.
The tolerant person can not, by definition, tolerate intolerance.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Of course tolerate them, but don't fail to point out to them that their opinions are that they should be able to infringe the rights of others.
This is how they can so easily claim victim stance - their opinions that gays should not be allowed to marry are not being "tolerated." We are tolerating their having that opinions, but they can stand to be called out on how they are advocated for someone else being restricted by their opinion when it does not really affect them.
Paladin
(28,267 posts)Right-wingers are still using that bullshit ploy, to this day.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)K&R
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)I find when people ridicule and call 99% of some group names based on what less than a percent of them do intolerant. Many others think it is the right thing to do. I tolerate them
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)It would matter if I was the one being treated with intolerance, or another party. And it would depend on how hateful the intolerance, and particularly, how unfair. I think I have trouble tolerating bullies, so...
I would stick up for the one being picked on.
I can take it.....am so beat up a few more bumps ain't gonna kill me....
LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)Toleration of the intolerant is not tolerance, it is apathy!