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kpete

(72,005 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:46 PM Feb 2014

Ohio just withdrew its 'religious freedom' bill in response to Brewer's veto

Religious freedom bill pulled by sponsors
By Jim Siegel and Alan Johnson
Wednesday February 26, 2014 5:55 PM


The proposed “Ohio Religious Freedom Restoration Act” has been derailed by its sponsors because of concerns that it may discriminate against gay Ohioans.

“We never started out with some idea of giving people the right to discriminate. That doesn’t work in this country,” said Rep. Bill Patmon, a Cleveland Democrat who jointly sponsoring the bill with Rep. Tim Derickson, R-Oxford. “If anybody knows me and knows my record, they know I’ve fought discrimination.”

Shortly after Patmon and Derickson announced they wanted the bill withdrawn, Rep. Jim Butler, R-Oakwood, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said that “no future consideration will be given to H.B. 376.”


“We need to kill this bill,” Ian James, the group’s executive director, said of House Bill 376. “It's dangerous and eerily similar to the Arizona legislation.”

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/02/26/religious-freedom-bill.html



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State lawmakers in Ohio are withdrawing legislation that mirrors an Arizona "religious freedom" bill that has come under fire for protecting those who assert their religious beliefs in refusing service to gays.

Republican state Rep. Tim Derickson and Democratic state Rep. Bill Patmon issued a joint statement Wednesday citing concern over the bill's unintended consequences.

The pair said the bill they introduced in December was intended to protect the ability of Ohioans to freely worship and exercise their religious beliefs, not to promote discrimination.

http://www.wtrf.com/story/24831883/ohio-lawmakers-pull-religious-freedom-bill

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Ohio just withdrew its 'religious freedom' bill in response to Brewer's veto (Original Post) kpete Feb 2014 OP
well look at that, my state does something right leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #1
I live here too, and do not trust that mess of the leg to do anything even remotely right mtnester Feb 2014 #2
they still might once the heat dies down leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #5
Is wearing crosses or yamaka prohibited in some workplaces in Ohio? LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #3
No one is going to stop a child from praying in school. alphafemale Feb 2014 #15
Understood. And that is as it should be. LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #17
Their hatred is showing and even though many of them don't care about that William769 Feb 2014 #4
+++ Chris Hayes is all over this right now. DirkGently Feb 2014 #6
What we have here are... ReRe Feb 2014 #7
"Unintended Consequences" my ass. Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #8
Yep. They wanted to legalize their bigotry until they discovered it might cost them money. CrispyQ Feb 2014 #20
Good! Lifelong Protester Feb 2014 #9
Yeah right. efhmc Feb 2014 #10
If you can hear a loud beeping sound coming from every direction... geomon666 Feb 2014 #11
And isn't that what it REALLY comes down to? llmart Feb 2014 #12
"If these were people without money, then we wouldn't give a fuck." hatrack Feb 2014 #16
Yup. These teahadists did not just suddenly find morals or compassion nt AllyCat Feb 2014 #19
I don't buy the "we never started to with some idea of giving people the right to discriminate…" calimary Feb 2014 #13
And they were SOOOOOOOO concerned they waited for Gov. Weaknugly's veto! hatrack Feb 2014 #14
Every time and every place this bill comes back (and it will) liberals need to make a stink Hekate Feb 2014 #18
Of course it's eerily similar to the Arizona legislation. tanyev Feb 2014 #21
Why did a Democrat co-sponsor this in the first place? merrily Feb 2014 #22

mtnester

(8,885 posts)
2. I live here too, and do not trust that mess of the leg to do anything even remotely right
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:55 PM
Feb 2014

if they thought they could quietly get this through they would do it in a heartbeat, or bury it in a bill and whoopsie, it is now law

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
3. Is wearing crosses or yamaka prohibited in some workplaces in Ohio?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:57 PM
Feb 2014

Somehow I doubt it.

As for prayer in public schools ... Jesus TOLD you guys to keep it in the closet.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
15. No one is going to stop a child from praying in school.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:56 PM
Feb 2014

Or even a roup of kids praying together.

A teacher or other adult just can't compel a child to pray.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
17. Understood. And that is as it should be.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:29 AM
Feb 2014

My comment was reaction to Derickson's "encroachment" remark in the article.

Derickson said at the time that the bill is “a preventive attempt” to block further encroachment on expression of religious freedom. He cited examples such as prohibition of prayer in schools and public places, zoning issues for churches, and public expression of religious faith, such as wearing crosses and displaying Nativity scenes.


[center]the hypocrites love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men[/center]

William769

(55,147 posts)
4. Their hatred is showing and even though many of them don't care about that
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:03 PM
Feb 2014

Thy do have to keep up some semblance of appearance.

Waiting to see what their next move is.

Mr.Bill

(24,311 posts)
8. "Unintended Consequences" my ass.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:32 PM
Feb 2014

A whole lot of politicians got a wakeup call and got exposed today.

CrispyQ

(36,487 posts)
20. Yep. They wanted to legalize their bigotry until they discovered it might cost them money.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 05:17 PM
Feb 2014

Oops, kinda sounds like Mammon is their true God.

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
10. Yeah right.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:45 PM
Feb 2014

"The pair said the bill they introduced in December was intended to protect the ability of Ohioans to freely worship and exercise their religious beliefs, not to promote discrimination."

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
11. If you can hear a loud beeping sound coming from every direction...
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:47 PM
Feb 2014

Don't panic, it's just the Tealiban truck backing way the fuck off. Word came down from Corporate Headquarters, this affects our bottom line, back it up.

llmart

(15,545 posts)
12. And isn't that what it REALLY comes down to?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:53 PM
Feb 2014

It has nothing to do with doing the right thing. When the businesses started to oppose it for financial reasons, then whoa, can't have that.

hatrack

(59,590 posts)
16. "If these were people without money, then we wouldn't give a fuck."
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:56 PM
Feb 2014

But since they're lots of gay professionals, and friends and family, many of whom have discretionary income, know social media and how to organize, and are really pissed off, we suddenly rediscovered our "principles".

calimary

(81,383 posts)
13. I don't buy the "we never started to with some idea of giving people the right to discriminate…"
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:51 PM
Feb 2014

crap for a nanosecond.

Not for a nanosecond.

In THIS day and age??????? NO ONE will EVER be able to convince me that they weren't trying to get around something so that religious excuses could be used for cover - to allow for DISCRIMINATION. PERIOD. When you say your religion allows you to turn a customer away, or not serve somebody, that is nothing BUT discrimination. PERIOD.

And if, by the barest chance that some idiots back there did think it was mere "religious freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom" (or as we say around our house, "freedom-freedom&quot , they need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. That legislation has consequences. And you have to be DAMN CAREFUL next time you try playing with "religious freedom" and claiming authority to shove it down others' throats.

hatrack

(59,590 posts)
14. And they were SOOOOOOOO concerned they waited for Gov. Weaknugly's veto!
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:54 PM
Feb 2014

Good thing nobody was forcing anything "down their throats" or "bending them over" or anything like that, huh?

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
18. Every time and every place this bill comes back (and it will) liberals need to make a stink
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:37 AM
Feb 2014

These bigots need a combination of sunshine (best disinfectant) and having their noses rubbed in their mess.

Keep up the good work, Dems and Liberals!

tanyev

(42,589 posts)
21. Of course it's eerily similar to the Arizona legislation.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:50 PM
Feb 2014

Probably written by a right-wing think tank and emailed to Rethugs in all 50 states. [Insert your state name here]

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