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kpete

(72,005 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:30 PM Feb 2014

Obama Asks Court To Make NSA Database Even Bigger

The Obama administration has asked a special court for approval to hold onto National Security Agency phone records for a longer period–an unintended consequence of lawsuits seeking to stop the phone-surveillance program.

The Wall Street Journal reported last week that the Justice Department was considering such a move, which would end up expanding the controversial phone records database by not deleting older call records.

Under the current system, the database is purged of phone records more than five years old. The Justice Department, in a filing made public Wednesday, said it needs to hold onto the older records as evidence in lawsuits brought by the American Civil Liberties Union, Electronic Frontier Foundation, and others.

Under the proposal made to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the older data would continue to be held, but NSA analysts would not be allowed to search it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-26/obama-asks-court-make-nsa-database-even-bigger

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Obama Asks Court To Make NSA Database Even Bigger (Original Post) kpete Feb 2014 OP
Spin. Here's the WSJ report: ProSense Feb 2014 #1
Do you even read this stuff as you copy & paste it? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #2
Yes, but ProSense Feb 2014 #3
??? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #5
LOL! No wonder you're seeing only what you want to. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #7
Woo Hoo Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #8
Melt down? n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #9
And FYI, Zerohedge is a RW tool. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #4
Irrelevant. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #6
Good morning kiddies! n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #10

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. Spin. Here's the WSJ report:
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:40 PM
Feb 2014
<...>

Under the current system, the database is purged of phone records more than five years old. The Justice Department, in a filing made public Wednesday, said it needs to retain the older records to preserve evidence for law suits brought by the American Civil Liberties Union, Electronic Frontier Foundation, and others.

Jameel Jaffer, a lawyer for the ACLU, called the government's request "just a distraction.

"We don't have any objection to the government deleting these records," he said. "While they're at it, they should delete the whole database.''

The EFF, on the other hand, has argued the records should be preserved to show the extent of the surveillance.

<...>

The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that the Director of National Intelligence and the Justice Department have given the White House four options for changing the program. The options include having major phone companies store the data, or having another government agency such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation store it, or doing away with the database entirely.

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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304709904579407321915018810?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304709904579407321915018810.html

Zerohedge is full of crap. Others had no problem reporting the facts.

The administration is considering four potential options for it's massive, bulk collection of U.S. citizens cellphone data, the Wall Street Journal reports. One option would be to discontinue dragnet data collection, and the other three are variations of running it through the telephone companies, and having them store the data.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/26/1280658/-Obama-administration-considering-several-options-for-NSA-dragnet-nbsp-program


 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
2. Do you even read this stuff as you copy & paste it?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:44 PM
Feb 2014

From you "response":

Jameel Jaffer, a lawyer for the ACLU, called the government's request "just a distraction.
"We don't have any objection to the government deleting these records," he said. "While they're at it, they should delete the whole database.''

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. Yes, but
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:47 PM
Feb 2014

"Do you even read this stuff as you copy & paste it?"

...but you don't, apparently.

The EFF, on the other hand, has argued the records should be preserved to show the extent of the surveillance.


Four options:

The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that the Director of National Intelligence and the Justice Department have given the White House four options for changing the program. The options include having major phone companies store the data, or having another government agency such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation store it, or doing away with the database entirely.
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