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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:54 PM Feb 2014

Utah lawmaker targets women with new divorce barriers so men aren’t ‘surprised’

Ugh. That should make women in abusive marriages feel really safe. Given Utah is the next best thing to a theocratic state we have in the USA, it brought to mind my own sister who was abused for years and finally one day found courage to leave. Then she went to talk to their helpful fundamentalist pastor who talked her into reconciling and went on to continue to be abused for many more years to come. You should have the freedom to walk away from a bad marriage.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/25/utah-lawmaker-targets-women-with-new-divorce-barriers-so-men-arent-surprised/

Utah lawmaker targets women with new divorce barriers so men aren’t ‘surprised’
By David Edwards
Tuesday, February 25, 2014 16:20 EST
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Utah state Rep. Jim Nielson (YouTube)

Utah state Rep. Jim Nielson (R) says that he is sponsoring a bill to force divorcing couples to take classes because he says that men are often “surprised” when women want to end the marriage.

The Associated Press reported on Tuesday that Nielson had filed a bill that would require couples to take part of mandatory divorces classes even sooner than the law required when Utah became the first state with the mandate in 1994. Nielson would like to see couples take at least half of the $55 two-hour classes at the beginning of divorce process.

While Nielson told The AP that he hoped the classes would reduce the divorce rate in Utah, he was even more specific about his goals earlier this month on an Internet show called DadsDivorce.com.

“The friends that I have that have gone through a divorce, most of the people that I know personally that have gone through that personally are men,” Nielson explained to host Matt Allen. “And my sense, at least from the men that I interact with, is that they’ve usually been surprised by the divorce request, by the filing.”

The lawmaker pointed out that most men were in “the position of the respondent, and the ones that I know generally have also been greatly distressed by it, wished that there had been an opportunity to reconcile and to find a way to reconcile.”

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Utah lawmaker targets women with new divorce barriers so men aren’t ‘surprised’ (Original Post) Skidmore Feb 2014 OP
Target this, Nielson shenmue Feb 2014 #1
unfortunately, they're patronizing nitwits who succeed phantom power Feb 2014 #3
it's all about enforcing the patriarchy phantom power Feb 2014 #2
Hey, my State Senator (Glenn Grothman) says when married to an abusive husband, wive should ... Scuba Feb 2014 #4
God that's awful Sweet Freedom Feb 2014 #5
Republican "Small Government" Bandit Feb 2014 #6
Off our backs, and into our bedrooms. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #7
The friends he has that have gone through divorce are men? Wtf? I mean, for every man that uppityperson Feb 2014 #8
This is so disturbing to read. Not surprisingly sufrommich Feb 2014 #9
Dear asshole representative MadrasT Feb 2014 #10

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. unfortunately, they're patronizing nitwits who succeed
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:59 PM
Feb 2014

it's exactly the same tactic as "abortion counseling", and they may make this a reality too.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
2. it's all about enforcing the patriarchy
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:57 PM
Feb 2014

The fact that he frames it all as "surprised husbands" says everything you need to know about where this is coming from.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
5. God that's awful
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:32 PM
Feb 2014

I cannot tell you how many times I tried to get my ex to go to counseling and he refused repeatedly. To this day, he claims to anyone who will listen that he had no idea I was unhappy and that I never gave him a chance.

This, my friends, is called ego.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
8. The friends he has that have gone through divorce are men? Wtf? I mean, for every man that
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 08:03 PM
Feb 2014

gets divorced (up 'til now with marriage equality giving everyone the right to get legally married/divorced) wasn't there a woman?

Because he is friend with only men he thinks only men need protection from "surprise"?

WHAT the fuck

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
9. This is so disturbing to read. Not surprisingly
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 08:16 PM
Feb 2014

the site he did the interview with has direct links to MRA sites.

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