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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:10 PM Feb 2014

Red-Light Cameras Click Less as Cities Get Orwell Off Road

By Tim Jones and Mark Niquette Feb 25, 2014 10:55 AM ET

The shutters clicked, the grainy photos were sent to the red-light violators and St. Louis raised $4.1 million last year. Now the vehicular version of “Candid Camera” may be ending, as it has in other U.S. towns and cities.

A circuit court judge in St. Louis nullified its camera law Feb. 11, two months after a Missouri appeals court judge struck down a similar suburban ordinance. Those rulings have added to the legal and political blowback across the nation against a system whose safety benefits are disputed while its revenue-generating efficiency is not.

“All it is is a money grab,” said Joe Brazil, a St. Charles County, Missouri, councilman jailed last year for failing to pay a $100 fine in the St. Louis suburb of St. Peters. “It’s almost like racketeering. It’s not about safety.”

Opponents in Missouri, New Jersey and other states are proving that city hall can be defeated with court challenges and political pressure. Even as advocates promote cameras’ ability to save lives, the number of communities using them has dropped about 6 percent since 2012 to 509, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety in Arlington, Virginia. Lawmakers in five states, including Ohio and Florida, are considering banning or limiting their use, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
All-Seeing Eye

Cameras are connected to traffic signals at intersections to photograph vehicles that go through red lights, and tickets are typically mailed to vehicle owners, according to the Insurance Institute. The first program was started in 1992 in New York City, the group said.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-25/red-light-cameras-click-less-as-u-s-towns-get-orwell-off-roads.html

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Red-Light Cameras Click Less as Cities Get Orwell Off Road (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2014 OP
And the cameras DO lie frazzled Feb 2014 #1
Great example. jsr Feb 2014 #3
It's a joke and I want them out of my city LittleBlue Feb 2014 #2

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. And the cameras DO lie
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:27 PM
Feb 2014

Five or so years ago my husband received one of those red-light violation letters in the mail. He looked at the three pictures on the notice and said he couldn't see what he'd done wrong (he had no recollection of even being at this intersection, since the alleged infraction had taken place a good two months or so earlier). I said, go to watch the video at the link they give you, and I'm sure you'll see you probably turned right without coming to a full stop.

We pulled up the video and were shocked: the footage had been edited, with jump cuts, to try to make it look as if he had not stopped, but they're not expert filmmakers at all: it was clear from the surrounding movements of the traffic that my husband was dead still, and all cross traffic had cleared before he made his right turn. Instead of sending them $100, he made a court appointment to fight it (another two month wait).

When the adjudicator called his case, he politely said he didn't think he'd committed the alleged violation. The judge sneered and said, "we'll see about that" and pulled the video up on her computer screen. After watching for a minute, she said to him: "come here and look at this!" He approached the bench and watched it with her. She said that the state had entirely failed to prove its case against him, that there was no evidence of any wrongdoing, and his fine was dismissed. She also said she'd never seen anything like that. I said, "I bet." Actually, most people either don't look at the footage to check, or don't have the time to take off work to go to court to fight it. They just mail in a check: no wonder the judge claimed not to have seen this before.

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