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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:43 PM Feb 2014

Here's Who to Trust

A Liberal Democrat.



[font color="blue"]"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis D. Brandeis[/font colr]

The good Justice gave us an unbeatable election strategy. At the very least, his words stand as warning, as there is no shortage of opportunities in the present day to demonstrate leadership on that front.

PS: If Justice Brandeis and the other greats of his day, from Woodrow Wilson to Franklin Roosevelt, saw what passes for discussion, let alone debate, in Washington in this day, they'd likely remind the Democratic Party to stop kissing Wall Street's posterior for financial support and employment post-public service. Otherwise, the unctuous turds of the GOP will grab the winning issue if income inequality for themselves, this fall and in 2016.

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Here's Who to Trust (Original Post) Octafish Feb 2014 OP
K&R.... daleanime Feb 2014 #1
Harry S Truman agreed with us... Octafish Feb 2014 #3
Careful... AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #8
It might be a good thing it is missing from our time. zeemike Feb 2014 #14
"Grokking!" daleanime Feb 2014 #16
interesting thought, octafish grasswire Feb 2014 #2
It hurts to see where we are heading... Octafish Feb 2014 #4
And democracy has deteriorated in proportion. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #10
Orwell Orwell Orwell. Octafish Feb 2014 #17
At what point is it fascism? 1000words Feb 2014 #5
I would say we are quite there... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #15
Only Republican-supporting wealthy tend to be the problem, imo. gulliver Feb 2014 #6
The Quote I would like to be remembered by is... imthevicar Feb 2014 #7
Very good, and that is exactly how wealthy they have become. toby jo Feb 2014 #9
Another way to be stated? RobertEarl Feb 2014 #18
He was so right. Maybe it's too late to heed his warning. The Dem Party made the decision sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #11
K&R Cleita Feb 2014 #12
“There are no shortcuts in evolution.” MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #13

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Harry S Truman agreed with us...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:44 PM
Feb 2014
"Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time."

Another HST quote that seems missing from our time:

"I learned that a great leader is a man who has the ability to get other people to do what they don't want to do and like it."

George Orwell made the point that the fewer words we have to think with, the fewer ideas we'll have to think.

Thank you for grokking, daleanime!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. It might be a good thing it is missing from our time.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

Because the third way among us would have to start bashing Harry Truman too...
And he was far from a perfect man but I liked him and don't want to see him bashed.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
2. interesting thought, octafish
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:55 PM
Feb 2014

A list of those to trust is a good idea.

Because those who didn't live through the last fifty years or so often have little confidence in anything they hear or read. Up is down. Propaganda and disinformation are everywhere.

But there are absolutes, and there are speakers of truth, both living and gone.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. It hurts to see where we are heading...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:52 PM
Feb 2014

...First it was privatized public services, seeing the infrastructure and utilities the People financed, turned over to private, for-profit utilities that do not profit the people. Then Cheney and his neocon warmonger crew privatized war fighting to the benefit of Halliburton and Carlyle Group. Now the scammers and banksters and their toadies on the Potomac work to privatize education. All these work to concentrate wealth in the hands of the few. And, as Brandeis so keenly noted, they also work to concentrate power in the hands of even fewer.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Orwell Orwell Orwell.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:10 PM
Feb 2014

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." -- from WhoWhatWhy.com.



We Democrats can't even remember our own heroes as our heads get so jammed full of spam from Corporate McPravda. The crapola never mentions what's important, yet manages to crowd out the important thoughts we once knew. And it spews Niagara Falls fast and at similar volume that we don't enjoy a moment to rest, let alone get a moment to grieve; nor are We the People allowed time to notice what is missing, like Truth.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
15. I would say we are quite there...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:28 PM
Feb 2014

That's one "F" word, I don't spare in describing where we've arrived.

Thanks to the warp speed of the SCOTUS on Citizen's United decision, and in particular, to all the round heeled of the Executive and Legislative Branches who have allowed all those bills to chip away at the only defense against total fascism in commerce, education, labor, $$$$$$$

Auuugghhh!!! [URL=http://www.sherv.net/][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
6. Only Republican-supporting wealthy tend to be the problem, imo.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:06 PM
Feb 2014

The real problem is that the people are divided for various reasons, one of which is astroturfing and propagandizing by some of the Republican wealthy. Those are the only wealthy who need a leash to prevent them from chewing on the Constitution. I have no problem with the liberal wealthy.

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
7. The Quote I would like to be remembered by is...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:23 PM
Feb 2014

No one should become so wealthy that the only thing left for them to Purchase, is my Government.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
18. Another way to be stated?
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 10:21 PM
Feb 2014

The rich own everything but the government.
But they are buying it as we speak.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. He was so right. Maybe it's too late to heed his warning. The Dem Party made the decision
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:00 PM
Feb 2014

to go for the money longer ago than I realized, and we are seeing the results every day.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
13. “There are no shortcuts in evolution.”
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:23 PM
Feb 2014

Reading one of the many Justice Bradeis quotes, I connected to this one right off...

To me, there is no process that seems fast enough to cut the rapid pace at which we are privatizing the world and it's resources. I believe that invites civil disobedience because nothing else can possibly attenuate the results of this madness.

Why should we continue to tolerate the destruction of labor and financial "markets"???

But, I'm speaking to the best choir here…

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