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Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
1. I would love to know, and I'd like to know the racial breakdown as well.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:50 AM
Feb 2014

I think I read that there were at least two black women on the panel.

 

sked14

(579 posts)
2. Here's the racial breakdown.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:53 AM
Feb 2014

Four white females, two black females, four white males, an Asian female and a Hispanic male, plus four alternates.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. I hope a few jurors give their side of this. It's hard to believe even a gun-loving Klansman
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:56 AM
Feb 2014

could hold out on with the evidence in this case. Dunn left/fled the scene, ate pizza, had drinks, made up some BS, fired 10 times at the van. Only a racist could believe Dunn feared for his life. I hope there is something going on that we aren't considering since they did convict Dunn of the other counts. At least he can't parade around like poor, pitiful Zimmerman. I hope he's retried for the family's sake.

 

sked14

(579 posts)
5. I'm with you on this.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 12:01 PM
Feb 2014

I hope one or two jurors will come out and tell us what went on in the jury room,
my theory is, and it's only a theory since we weren't there, that one or two may have been holding out for 1st murder and couldn't be swayed while the others wanted either 2nd murder or manslaughter.
I'm not too worried, the state has already said they'll retry him on the murder charge and more than likely get it's conviction.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. the jurors directly asked the judge if they could consider self defense for all the shootings, and
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:24 PM
Feb 2014

they were told they could not- hence the verdicts reached on the lesser charges. Some juror stuck with self defense for the murder part, so there was no reason to split hairs over murder one or two. At least one juror was pushing for acquittal on all charges- it's part of the court record.

Diamonique

(1,655 posts)
7. A gun-loving Klansman...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 12:50 PM
Feb 2014

... would have no problem overlooking the evidence and holding out for a not guilty verdict. The victim was black after all. I don't think a racist would necessarily believe that Dunn was afraid for his life. But they would certainly use that excuse to find him not guilty.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
6. I am hopeful that the African American jurors and others "held their ground"
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 12:03 PM
Feb 2014

for conviction at the first or second degree level while others wanted to go with a lesser charge. There may have been someone who wasn't willing to convict at all, but I'm wondering if it wasn't a more complicated situation that led to the hung jury.

I'm very curious and hope that the hung jury was a result of some saying enough of this SYG bullshit.

Diamonique

(1,655 posts)
8. I am hopeful of that too...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:21 PM
Feb 2014

As a matter of fact, I'm 90% sure that someone wanted not guilty and the others thankfully did hold their ground. I'm as sure as anyone can be without hearing from the jurors anyway.

I keep thinking about the Zimmerman juror who wanted a guilty verdict and eventually caved. After it was over she said she still felt that he was guilty. She should have stood her ground.

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
9. Could the jury have found guilty of 2nd murder, or was the only option 1st?
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:08 PM
Feb 2014

I seem to remember that the option of what the charge is, is up to only the prosecutor and the jury can only decide guilty or not.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. 1st, 2nd, manslaughter or acquittal. someone had them ask the judge if they could find for self defe
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:29 PM
Feb 2014

defense on all charges. That was not part of Dunn's defense for shooting at the fleeing car- so they were told they could not find for self defense on all charges, just the murder. That was a couple of hours before the verdict. There you go.

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