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from HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/deaf-student-obama-sign-language_n_1369118.html
As first reported on Distriction, Stephon, a student at Prince George Community College, was standing in line after an event on energy policy with President Obama and Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, waiting for a chance to shake hands with the president. As the president was shaking hands and making his way through the crowd, he met up with Stephon, who was born deaf.
"I am proud of you," Stephon signed to the president.
Not missing a beat, President Obama signed back: "Thank you . . ." (more)
When I got in, I took many videos. What amazed me is that it took two hours to make it just right before Obama started. I did not realize how great of seats there were for us deaf people. Right front of Obama. I sat in VIP with the Governor Martin OMalley and many other important people. So, it started at about 11. Obama was right front of me. I was ready to jump up and walk toward him and shake his hand. Could you imagine how the Secret Service wouldve responded? When I watched Obama give his speech on the stage I thought to myself, No way, Obama is not standing right in front of me! Wow!(more)
If you want to know more about what Obamas speech was about, you can find out online. I was close enough to touch Martin OMalley on his shoulder but I didnt want to bother him. I regret I could have done better holding my camera while talking to Obama. The moment I will never forget was when he looked at me. He gave me a chance to talk to him. It was like he was waiting for me to say something. I took the moment and signed I am proud of you, and his response was Thank u in sign language back! Oh my gosh! I was like wow! He understood me after I said I was proud of him. It was so amazing I was just speechless. Right after he thanked me, he smiled at another deaf lady who signed I love you. When I shook his hand it did not feel like he was superior to me. He was just a humble man. I am just impressed by him and know that he will have my vote and he will win second term without a doubt. Yeah, I feel safe to have him for another term.
article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/deaf-student-obama-sign-language_n_1369118.html
Barack Obama
@BarackObama
"I am proud of you," Stephon signed. "Thank you," the President signed back. OFA.BO/r49Cce
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)What a great Moment! K&R!
PEACE!
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)the Deaf community, for sure! The Deaf grapevine is FAST!
I'm impressed that the President understood Stephon without hesitation. You can see Stephon is amazed by that, too.
This is just reallllllllllllllllly cool
I'd love to meet that kid, Stephon. Loved watching him tell his story. He keeps going off the point to describe things and then going..."well, ANYWAY..(back to the point)" made me smile .....and I loved seeing him go back in his mind, after telling how the Pres looked him in the eye, shook hands, listened, and signed, "Thank You"......the look on Stephon's face....you can see he was moved SO deeply......
WOW, I really loved this!!!!!!
Thank you for posting!!!!!!!!
Botany
(70,556 posts)It made me go back to post #7 to learn some basics ..... I will now carry
a pencil and paper when i walk my dog in a near by park because I often
run into a deaf man and his dog and he likes that I let the dogs play. I
sense he wants to talk about dogs and that is a good thing.
You know it is really simple to be kind to others and it makes our
journey from birth to death so much better. President Obama learning
the basics of sign is kind of like that he took the time to learn to salute
properly when he started as President .... he did that to show respect
to the servicemen and women that are around him.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)"be kind to others, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle"....I don't know where that saying comes from, but it's a good reminder.
I'm a Sign Language Interpreter, have been for 28 years, so.....this vid was marvelous for me!
madokie
(51,076 posts)What is not to like about this man is beyond me.
ETA: We are blessed to have this man as our President, no doubt. Two word, he understands
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I presume you don't expect to be targeted by him for indefinite detention or extrajudicial killing.
Hey, I think it was cool too. I wonder if he really understood or if he was just smart enough to say "thank you" in sign language (it's not a particularly difficult sign and actually makes sense. I use it often with wait staff in noisy bars. They tend to understand).
But let's hold off on sainthood here. He exercising power in extreme ways and it doesn't exactly make me feel "safe".
olegramps
(8,200 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)thoughtful restraint. I'm glad I no longer have to fear the exercise of these powers by Bush/Cheney, whom initiated most of what the poster refers to. If we did not have a completely obstructionist rethuglican congress the President could work with congress to resolve these issues. The Pres. tried to close Gitmo early on but the rethuglicans would not allow any prisoners to be transferred to supermax facilities on the mainland. Vote a straight Democratic ballot, give the Pres. a Congress he can work with, and I'm sure these issues will be quickly resolved.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)He tried to move it, not close it, to the facility you mention. He had no intention of closing the institution. In fact he asserts the right to maintain indefinite detentions.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)...have you hijacked the thread, but you're spewing utter nonsense. Moving the prisoners was the process for closing Guantanamo and transfering them to a U.S. facility so that civilian trials could begin.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)When he was campaigning on this issue, neither him, nor McCain (who both advocated the closing of Gitmo) mentioned it in the context of either merely moving the prisoners, nor of maintaining indefinite detentions. The problem with Gitmo, that both of them were attempting to address, was the complaint (amongst others) that holding these prisoners, in this fashion was a problem for our military and our foreign policy especially in the middle east and in Afghanistan. "Closing" Gitmo, only to move the problem to Illinois wasn't going to change that. It wasn't Cuba that was the problem, it was who we were holding and why.
I do suspect his position on indefinite detentions was in part to try to fix the problem one step at a time. He may have been trying to avoid the arguement about a general policy, so he could get the facility moved, and trials moving forward. Once they got down to the last of them, THEN he could take up the issue of indefinite detentions on a specific basis, not a general policy one. Since none of his plans have really gone anywhere, we can't really know at this point. At the pace things are going, he won't have this "fixed" by the time he leaves office.
Number23
(24,544 posts)He must be furious that his threadjack didn't get quite the results he wanted. And that makes me just a little bit happy.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I think you misunderstand me greatly. Of course, I have to take at least half that responsibility since commincation is a two way street. And now we can say 159. Hope that makes you even happier.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I have my opinions and you have yours, I don't berate you for yours but yet you do me for mine go away please. Have a good day irregardless.
Why don't you email the President and ask him if he knows sign language, seems to me he would have to have some grasp of it in order to know to reply thank you.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Never understand why people post things in a discussion forum, and then complain that people discuss them. They do have a whole group though just for that kind of thing if you want.
It did occur to me that he might take a bit of a risk replying thank you, if he didn't believe he understood the underlying expression. Although with sign language, there's a certain amount of "body language" to the whole thing anyway. Plus, the guy may have also spoken or mouthed what he was signing. It's not uncommon when signing to the hearing.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)And exactly where is it stated that only experts are to participate in discussion?
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)"I wonder if he really understood or if he was just smart enough to say "thank you" in sign language (it's not a particularly difficult sign and actually makes sense."
You are making a judgement based on your knowledge of sign language. Thank you for admitting that you have no basis for your assessment.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I have a basis. That doesn't make me an expert. I spent a couple of years socializing with the deaf community. I wouldn't consider that an "expert" by any stretch. Far from "clueless" however.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)you could make a thread about breakfast cereal into an anti obama thread. people are bored of it by now.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)A review of my postings will reveal some supportive, and some not, along with some that have nothing to do with Obama.
But something tells me that you have no problem, when someone posts something critical of the president, with all the responses pointing to the lists of "promises kept" or all the reasons they like Obama, when it has nothing to do with the OP.
It's a discussion forum. If you don't want a discussion, go to the appropriate groups the restrict responses to only those that will agree with you. They exist for that very reason.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)which is what i'm doing now.
second, trying to hijack threads isn't very endearing, i see you haven't grasped that...
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Maybe take a step back? I didn't hijack anything. I responded to a specific post. And I'm not trying to run anyone off of anywhere. I'm actually engaging everyone. Pointing out that the structure some peope want exists in another group isn't "running" anyone off. I'm explaining the structure of a discussion forum versus a group like BOG whose purpose is to avoid discussion with differing points of view.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)but we weren't discussing that issue.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Exactly what was being discussed?
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)dont' be disruptive.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)And the subject of the post as well.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)You cant exactly expect people to discuss what you want them to discuss after that, can you?
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Since you didn't appear to read the original post, here it is again.
Hey, I think it was cool too. I wonder if he really understood or if he was just smart enough to say "thank you" in sign language (it's not a particularly difficult sign and actually makes sense. I use it often with wait staff in noisy bars. They tend to understand).
But let's hold off on sainthood here. He exercising power in extreme ways and it doesn't exactly make me feel "safe".
Lets do some simple math. 17 words answering HIS question about not understanding people who were critical of this President. 21 words about the president using sign language, which was the subject of the post I WASN'T responding to.
How that qualifies as "ignore" is beyond me. It's called context. It doesn't even qualify as "pivoting" . He asked a question, and I responded, PREDOMINATELY about the original post in the CONTEXT of his question.
NBachers
(17,133 posts)People come here to share joy and feel good about a wonderous experience and you cram shit down their throats.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)he asked a question in essesence about people who don't agree with him. This is a discussion group where those people are expected to respond. If he wanted a fan group experience, we have a whole group set aside specifically for that purpose. They seem to actually need the content considering that they apparently only got about 10 postings yesterday. If he doesn't want a discussion on his point of view, despite explictly asking the question, he can go there. The groups hosts specifically refer to it as a "safe haven".
Number23
(24,544 posts)And the fact that your comment is not even the slightest bit true in ANY way is irrelevant, huh? Just love the haters who hate the President so much they just can't stay away from any positive post about the man or from The BOG which is widely known for being staunchly pro-Obama. Most people avoid things they despise but then again, most people are probably reasonable at least in some way.
It cracks me up. You've gotten your behind handed to you by about a dozen posters in this thread and yet you feel the urge to try and crap on The BOG. Hint: When people with no credibility malign something, it doesn't hurt the thing that they are trying to malign. Just a heads up.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)tangential issues into a thread where it has no relevent connection are engaging in a kind of thread jacking to an extent that they undermine both the level of discussion and the posters standing in the community.
Think of it as a community service message.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)The question was asked, and I answered it, along with a comment about the OP subject. That's called "discussing the content of the post".
grantcart
(53,061 posts)To further engage you would only further your aim of hijacking this thread with a completely unrelated policy issue.
I will leave you aline with your exercise in self gratification.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)So you came to a general discussion forum to avoid discussion?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)a) I don't engage with people, even when I agree with them, when they are attempting to hijack a thread to pull it over to their personal self gratifying self-indulgent self-absorbed manner by always insisting on controlling the discussion by means of hijacking a thread.
b) Do you actually engage everone who wants to discuss things with you? Certainly there are some bars that you have set so that you don't waste your time. For example do you sit and engage every nonsensical Republican that you come into contact with who wants to tell you the wonderous achievements of Ronald Reagan? Sometimes the ability to have a reasonable discussion is so diminished that it is better to cut one's losses and focus on people who are more amenable to following basic rules of civility (like not hijacking a thread) or logic (like hijacking a thread is the least likely method of getting someone to become sympathetic to your point of view).
I have a very low bar for such people and after several years only have 4 DUers that did not meet that very very low bar.
In a minute it will be 5.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Absolutes are hard to answer. I make it a point/policy/rule/philosophy, however you want to call it, of engaging people who respond to me in these kinds of forums. It does become difficult when ALOT of people all respond in the same way, to the same post. One ends up being repetetive. But there is a bit of courtesy involved as well, especially when one has chosen to engage in the first place.
There is an issue when to "end" participation. There is the "last word" concept, allowing someone else to be the "last post" can be an act of respect, kindness, or alternately a form of dismissal (functional equivalent of "walking away" . I also tend to employ the "been to long" rule, basically if I don't get back to the discussion in some period of time, they get the last word. I may try to write a "concluding post" of some sort, summarizing my position. The intent can often be to offer them an opportunity to do the same. Basically a part of the "last word" approach.
I don't really subscribe to the "take my key board and go home" approach. I don't make dismissive posts declaring that I am finished discussing the topic and won't listen any more. It's a discussion forum and it seems a tad counter intuitive to declare that one won't discuss something in a discussion form. If I'm done, or if I feel it is no longer valuable to me, or the larger community (or any combination thereof) I just employ one of these finishing stategies.
If I engage someone, even on a topic like the wonderous achievements of Ronald Reagan, then I have chosen to do so and I will engage them, not just throw "message bombs" and leave. I will end it in a manner as I have suggested above (well, at least I endeavor to, I'm sure my record isn't perfect).
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)nolabear
(41,990 posts)the point the kid was making was bigger than that. He felt a sense of humanity from President Obama, a real effort. If you feel the need to bring up your complaints when someone says something positive so be it. But it starts to look like hijacking after a while. I was warmed by the story. I can also have my complaints and hang onto them for when they create a real discussion, not a facepalm.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)He asked, specifically:
I "feel the need" to respond to specific questions.
I agree, there was an expression of humanity in the gesture. If nothing else, the wisdom to stop for a second and pay attention and not just shake and endless line of faceless hands.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I've posted this before:
In a discussion forum. You know what happens when you post questions like this in discussion forums? People discuss them!
If you don't want discussion, you post them in the forums that don't allow general discussion. The General Discussion forum isn't one of those.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)We get it: PRESIDENT OBAMA=BAD!!!!
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)President Obama = imperfect, just like the rest of us. Which is why when someone asks:
one might expect a response in a general discussion forum.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)one might expect a response in a general discussion forum.
....any of that have to do with your first ridiculous comment in the thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=449777
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Obviously. There are things not to like about "this man" and I listed a couple. Then I discussed the topic of the orignal post. In fact, it was the majority of the post.
Zanzoobar
(894 posts)It's not an interrogative. It's a statement.
"What is laughable about an assuming halfwit is self-evident."
That is a statement, not a question.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)However, that isn't what he asked. I think what you meant to suggest is that it was rhetorical. In a discussion forum, in essence there are no rhetorical questions. It may be meant that way, but one must be prepared to have their preconcieve notions challenged in an general discussion forum. There is a group specifically set aside to avoid this kind of discussion however. They specifically call it a "safe haven".
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)You arent discussing anything remotely related to the OP.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)If I was responding to the original post, I would have responded to it. I was responding to the question asked in the post to which I was responding. Althought the bulk of my response was connected to the topic of the original post.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)signing "thank you" to a deaf person who says they're proud of you and indefinite detention, drones and the non-closure of Guantanamo?
You're just not trying hard enough. C'mon. Remove all ability to process information properly and replace it with a mindless compulsion to constantly spout nonsensical talking points and you'll get there in no time.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I think you missed the connection to the specific question asked.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)only 4 threads worthy of your recommendations.
Some members really miss that unrec button.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I'm a bit "lazy"? is that the right word? with the "rec" button. To a great extent my "recommendation" tends to be in the form of participation. I occasionally remember to recommend a thread, but not very often. There are times when there are very popular threads and it seems sorta pointless, even though I like them.
Is that what you are talking about?
By the by, I'm actually one who misses the unrec button too, although I was fairly lazy on that one too. Strangely, the unrec button tended to get me to "rec" more often.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)This instance of thread hijacking is particularly mean spirited.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)They have whole groups just for that. If you want to avoid anyone answering to your posts with a different point of view, you can utilize a variety of groups. In this case the BOG would have been appropriate. If you don't want "general discussion" of what you post, that'd be most appropriate.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)DU wasn't always that way.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)They call it a safe haven. It is really for posts like the OP. Alot of people come to sites like this for discussion. But easily an equal amount come for the mere sense of camaraderie. The intersection of the two can be messy. They've created a wide variety of groups around here. Several of them are for the specific purpose of separating these two crowds.
WonderGrunion
(2,995 posts)So, no, I do not expect to be targeted for indefinite detention or extrajudicial killing.
If you want to make sure we never have a president that would go beyond those criteria, you should work very hard to prevent any Republicans from becoming president.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Is that some sort of MIRT thing or something?
dionysus
(26,467 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)How did we end up in conspiracy theories?
Botany
(70,556 posts)Please don't come in here and spread bullshit on toast and tell us
to eat it up because it is just "country style apple butter." The O.P. and
the point of this thread was about an act of kindness and class by
the POTUS and some sub threads about simple A.S.L. signs, how Obama
differs from W, and how happy two people who are deaf were made by
Barack's actions.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)That was the point of the original post, NOT the one to which I responded. The post to which I responded, expanded the context. I responded to that, although it was only PART of my response. The majority of my response was to the topic of the original post, a topic continued in the post to which I responded.
Botany
(70,556 posts)...... by writing about things that had nothing to do w/ the topics of this thread.
"No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)It is a technical fact that the majority of my post was about the OP. I responded to a specific post and my response was in the context of THAT post.
Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)I suggest contacting your local chapter of the FBI for a visit.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)No, I'm not concerned. It was more an expression of empathy, as a way of providing context to the posters question.
Loudmxr
(1,405 posts)OK maybe 23 because I can never remember Korean.
But I do know how to say "I love you" in ASL
It is so simple and, in my case, so heartfelt.
Sign language is so meaningful and so precious.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)bigtree
Wow, that was great - that he withouth a beat answered in sign language.. I doubt any republican president would to the same - at least not the republican lineup of today
Diclotican
FailureToCommunicate
(14,020 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)I love expanding my ability to communicate effectively.
obama is the man, great POTUS
Botany
(70,556 posts)The man is a class act!
And what a difference between W and Barack.
George Bush Insults Blind Reporter
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/06/15/bushglasses_wideweb__470x380,2.jpg
malaise
(269,155 posts)GObama!
GiveMeFreedom
(976 posts)Chimpy is the worst president in my life time.
What a fucking moron!!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Wow.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)He's such an educated guy. Just what this country needs.
I KNOW that he will win in a landslide, and make those RepubliCONs look like the dummies they are.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)(like the previous president)
randome
(34,845 posts)For those of you who want to whittle him down to size and try to convince us he can't be trusted...bugger off, already!
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Hardly consider the act of maintaining some objectivity and keeping him human to be "whittling him down to size". More along the line of "not sticking him on a pedestal". They tend to fall off of those if you aren't careful.
randome
(34,845 posts)But this is a perfect example of how this President pays attention and is on the mark. I get tired of hearing from the naysayers who think Obama has sold us out or hasn't been as Utopian a President as we might have wished for.
The man is okay in my book.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I agree, he's "okay". Hardly think discussing where he has failed qualifies as "whittling him down".
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)and I'd rather have him than the alternative.
If I want to discuss what I hate about him, then I'd start my own thread instead of squatting over one that isn't discussing that issue. That's called being disruptive, which is a TOS violation here.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I answered. That's how a discussion forum works.
By the way, they have a whole group just for these kinds of posts if you don't want discussions of them.
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)It wasn't a question to be answered which is why it ended in a period and not a question mark. It was a statement of the OP's opinion and wasn't the topic under discussion. You're really making a nuisance out of yourself - which would be true on any forum when you stray from the topic being discussed.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)In a discussion forum, really anything one posts is open for a discussion. The majority of what I wrote was about the original post, whose context was continued in the post to which I responded. I ALSO responded to the post to which I my post was a response.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)Is that what happened to you?
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)No. No one ever put me on a pedestal over anything. I've watched alot of folks knocked off of them. I've been at the bottom trying to catch them when they landed. They can get hurt from the sudden stop at the end.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)Thank you for sharing this, I wonder if it should be cross-posted in the BOG?
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)This may push me over the top to actually do something serious about it.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)but I was just trying to show the grandson the other day, and I got stuck on 'H'. I just remembered though! (now I'm stuck on 'P') ugh!
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)What an awesome story, what an awesome President!
Julie
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)babylonsister
(171,079 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)onethatcares
(16,178 posts)nah, neither do I
Greybnk48
(10,170 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Greybnk48
(10,170 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Still my favorite president. GOBAMA!
frogmarch
(12,158 posts)"thank you" video. It gave me another reason to be proud of President Obama!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)* was a deep embarrassment
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)There's "class"...and then there are the Republicans who make it so evident that they just don't give a damn about ordinary men and women.
Thank you, Mr. President, for having class. It makes me proud to be an American.
libmom74
(633 posts)doing the same thing? Me neither.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)momsrule
(100 posts)It's plain to see the goodness in our President. He gives respect and gets respects from those who deem hard work and intelligence, combined with social grace, an asset. His wife and children and also MIL, Mrs Robinson, are lovely role models for the White House families of the future. Noone wants sainthood [hyperbole], the people want recognition of all the goodness presented by a wonderful president and his lovely family. We call it core values, and reject racist slime.
bayareaboy
(793 posts)tele-promter to operate!
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Such an improvement from his predecessor.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)Just like our President makes me proud!
Neither is perfect, I'm sure...but then, neither am I! Far from it, in fact.
Bladian
(475 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)or maybe in Kenya as a child
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)penndragon69
(788 posts)Would have picked his nose and flicked it at this person.
Go-BAMA
Yes we WILL!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Tomay
(58 posts)I am very proud that Barack Obama is my president.
4 t 4
(2,407 posts)He can sign ? Love him still
bigtree
(86,005 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:51 PM - Edit history (1)
. . .the response to this young man's story is almost as gratifying and touching as the President's actions. I'm proud to be a DUer when we demonstrate such compassionate understanding and empathy.
Rob H.
(5,352 posts)Part of me has always wanted to learn it just to learn it. Even though I can't understand much of it, watching it is entrancing in a way, it's such expressive, fluid motion.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)SunSeeker
(51,646 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)I don't see how raising his personality to the level of importance that you think it has is any different than saying that Bush would be a good guy to have a beer with.
A President should not be picked for their personal style, for their loving relationship, their height, smile or hair.
Enjoy it, but deal with the criticisms that will come your way for such a seemingly superficial attraction the their style.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)anyone really cares what you think about this act. You could've moved on, but you too chose to dump a load in the punchbowl.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)And I, in turn, don't care if your are or not.
But I will still raise my voice and send out my opinion.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)man who was thrilled to meet the president, and that the president cared enough to sign a thank you. The fact that you & the other poster felt the need to drop by and disparage this young man's reaction, and those of us who thought it was a kind gesture speaks volumes, not about any of us, but way more than we cared to know about you, and your character.
The good news, however, is that this thread has received much love in spite of you.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Bush would have probably yelled at the guy, thinking if he bellowed loudly enough he could be heard.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Swagman
(1,934 posts)RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)And totally blow me away!
That was awesome!
great white snark
(2,646 posts)Proud and grateful.