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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 06:32 AM Mar 2012

If it's true, and George Zimmerman has moved out of that gated community...

Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:10 AM - Edit history (1)

I guess that he no longer wants to make sure that it's a safe place (for white people) to live.

Where is his sense of duty now?

Perhaps he's feeling a little guilty about gunning down an innocent child in cold blood. Who knows?

But by now, perhaps he's realized that Trayvon Martin (A name that I hope that he never forgets) was an innocent child, right?

Why hasn't he told the world about his side of the story? Surely, he still thinks that he's in the right. Or just maybe, he's fearful and embarrassed about what he's done. Either way, he should let us all know, especially the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin. They deserve as much.

What a confusing little man… Perhaps he'll find himself impelled to come to truth and justice eventually.

The world expects him to.

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If it's true, and George Zimmerman has moved out of that gated community... (Original Post) MrScorpio Mar 2012 OP
George should be in a jail cell right now charged with murder in the first degree madokie Mar 2012 #1
Two likely reasons why: no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #2
So a Vigilante is afraid of Vigilantism? Fawke Em Mar 2012 #29
You reap what you sow. no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #39
I believe that he had better move far away from Florida RebelOne Mar 2012 #41
I think he's dead man walking frankly musiclawyer Mar 2012 #42
I don't know if he's spoken to an attorney, Mariana Mar 2012 #3
Lawyering up, if he has, is a sure sign that he's concerned MrScorpio Mar 2012 #4
He should go to prison for the rest of his life. Leftist Agitator Mar 2012 #8
Just wondering if Zimmerman was a paid watchdog and will it come out. gordianot Mar 2012 #5
Anyone dare believe if a 240lbs Black Man shot a 140lb White child, the "Stand Your Ground" law HipChick Mar 2012 #6
Not for one minute. Iggo Mar 2012 #16
Heck no. CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #37
Why has Zimmerman not been arrested for the murder of Martin? Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #7
Because he "felt" that he was in danger. Ian_rd Mar 2012 #9
If he did, it's because he's hiding and... ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #10
Of course Zimmerman should be arrested & tried but the law itself duhneece Mar 2012 #11
Zimmerman is white? MNBrewer Mar 2012 #12
He's Latino MrScorpio Mar 2012 #13
I heard his "coon" comment on the 911 tape....there's no doubt about what he was thinking about MNBrewer Mar 2012 #14
At this point I would like to see the feds prosecute. obxhead Mar 2012 #21
Since when are Latinos considered white? And how can a gated community with only 49% of its snagglepuss Mar 2012 #15
The man was fixated on stalking black males in that community MrScorpio Mar 2012 #17
It's a multi-racial community and the shooter is Latino so the only inference anyone can snagglepuss Mar 2012 #22
Since Lucille Ball married Desi Arnaz jberryhill Mar 2012 #32
I assume he has a competent attorney X_Digger Mar 2012 #18
Zimmermanns Hispanic OPOS Mar 2012 #19
I've explained my rationality twice already... MrScorpio Mar 2012 #20
Yeah, well, you were wrong. randome Mar 2012 #28
Wrong about what, his fixation on black males? MrScorpio Mar 2012 #30
He's half Cuban Mopar151 Mar 2012 #25
Do we know that he's half Cuban? That would be very interesting. yardwork Mar 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author savalez Mar 2012 #34
He is half and half. Half Anglo, half Hispanic. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #35
Hispanic is not a race Ohio Joe Mar 2012 #43
I don't know that he's moved out Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #23
He should be in the jail right now malaise Mar 2012 #24
If he tells the truth, he'll go to jail. Jim__ Mar 2012 #26
I hope he finds himself in General Population very shortly. Jester Messiah Mar 2012 #27
Flight risk? elias7 Mar 2012 #31
I guess you don't understand the rules.. MicaelS Mar 2012 #33
What he said. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #36
I do understand the rules, of course MrScorpio Mar 2012 #38

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. George should be in a jail cell right now charged with murder in the first degree
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 06:42 AM
Mar 2012

In America the melting pot of nationalities there is no place for people like this turd of a jackass.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
41. I believe that he had better move far away from Florida
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 05:07 PM
Mar 2012

and change his name. There are going to be many vigilantes out for revenge if he is not prosecuted.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
42. I think he's dead man walking frankly
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 05:10 PM
Mar 2012

That does not mean I support vigilante justice or violence, even if all the facts were against the guy--something far from certain. But he did something that violated the social contract so to speak by looking for trouble. I just think he'll get taken out --either on the street or behind bars.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
3. I don't know if he's spoken to an attorney,
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:09 AM
Mar 2012

but if he has, he has almost certainly been told to keep his mouth shut.

 

Leftist Agitator

(2,759 posts)
8. He should go to prison for the rest of his life.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:08 AM
Mar 2012

At the very least. And I'm glad that Florida has the death penalty. I don't think that a death sentence would be unwarranted in this case. This was a cold-blooded murder of an unarmed, innocent child, only because of the color of his skin. I have not an ounce of mercy in my heart for someone who would commit such a heinous act.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
5. Just wondering if Zimmerman was a paid watchdog and will it come out.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:23 AM
Mar 2012

It could explain why so many are appearing to be covering up for Zimmerman and the police put up with his multiple calls. This murder could have many other accomplices.

Florida has always seemed keen on the death penalty wonder how they will stand on the murder of this child who was armed with iced tea and candy.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
6. Anyone dare believe if a 240lbs Black Man shot a 140lb White child, the "Stand Your Ground" law
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:26 AM
Mar 2012

would still apply?

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
9. Because he "felt" that he was in danger.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:13 AM
Mar 2012

This is per that insane Stand Your Ground law. Apparently, all you must do is say that you had a "feeling" that you were in danger, and viola! ... Self-Defense!

Somehow, I think if this were turned around identically, and this black kid had pursued the white man through the white man's own neighborhood, the white man made an effort to evade him, the white man was unarmed, and then the black kid shot the white man to death, I somehow think this black kid would be in jail. It would be a no-brainer. And he sure as hell wouldn't be able to say, "Well, I felt that Zimmerman was a threat to me so I chased after him and shot him."

duhneece

(4,116 posts)
11. Of course Zimmerman should be arrested & tried but the law itself
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:48 AM
Mar 2012

is the real injustice, the real racist tool. The law itself is on the international justice stage.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
13. He's Latino
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:09 AM
Mar 2012

But saw himself as a protector against everything black male… So it's no secret whom he thought that he was protecting the black males from.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
14. I heard his "coon" comment on the 911 tape....there's no doubt about what he was thinking about
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:13 AM
Mar 2012

thinking about black people at the time. I hope the state decides to prosecute him, despite the "stand your ground" law. He clearly pursued Mr. Martin and gave evidence of bias on tape just before he shot. Hate crime seems pretty clear in this case.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
21. At this point I would like to see the feds prosecute.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:27 AM
Mar 2012

I would also like to see the feds charge and prosecute the Sanford sheriff, prosecuting attorney, and every other officer involved in the initial response as complicit.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
15. Since when are Latinos considered white? And how can a gated community with only 49% of its
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:13 AM
Mar 2012

residents being white be described as a white community?

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
17. The man was fixated on stalking black males in that community
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:18 AM
Mar 2012

Apparently, he considered black males a threat… It doesn't take any stretch of the imagination to figure whom he felt they were a threat to.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
22. It's a multi-racial community and the shooter is Latino so the only inference anyone can
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:35 AM
Mar 2012

draw is that Zimmerman is a Latino racist.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. Since Lucille Ball married Desi Arnaz
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:20 AM
Mar 2012

Are you saying that the most popular television program of the 50's and 60's featured a racially mixed marriage? Heaven forfend.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
18. I assume he has a competent attorney
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:23 AM
Mar 2012

One who will tell him to keep his mouth shut, whether he thinks he's in the right or not.

 

OPOS

(73 posts)
19. Zimmermanns Hispanic
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:25 AM
Mar 2012

So throwing the whitey bit around isnt realistic. Hopefully the D.A. indicts him soon.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
30. Wrong about what, his fixation on black males?
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:24 AM
Mar 2012

Black males made up most, if not all of the "suspicious characters" that were the reason he felt that he had to call 911 repeatedly. Even if they were doing nothing more than walking down a rainy sidewalk, wearing a hoodie and carrying candy and iced tea.

It was mentioned upthread that he's actually part latino and that part is Cuban, indeed. Also many caucasian Cubans in Florida self-identify as white. I think that the "fucking coons" slur was quite the indicator of his concerns.

In his mind, I seriously doubt that the safety of the entire diversity of that community was first and foremost… Only a certain segment of it.

Mopar151

(9,992 posts)
25. He's half Cuban
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:38 AM
Mar 2012

And, from what I hear, Cubans are more apt to be far-right, and self -identify as white, or whiter than other Latinos.

yardwork

(61,690 posts)
40. Do we know that he's half Cuban? That would be very interesting.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 05:01 PM
Mar 2012

I've been trying to find out. I keep reading that he is half Anglo and half "Hispanic," which is a meaningless term.

Response to OPOS (Reply #19)

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
35. He is half and half. Half Anglo, half Hispanic.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:55 PM
Mar 2012

"Anglo" is a common term in Texas for non-Hispanic whites.

But having a name like Zimmerman certainly ups the "white" factor.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. I don't know that he's moved out
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:35 AM
Mar 2012

probably laying low at a relative's house...It's not like he can show his face in public and not be instantly recognized...

And he did tell his side of the story, in the statement he gave to the cops that night...But I'm 99.9% certain his "official statement" is full of bullshit and will only bury him deeper (that's why the cops haven't released it)...His father also gave the standard, attorney-written statement to the media last week, but that was before all the other details had come out.

Personally, he doesn't strike me as someone that smart, but I'm still worried he may try to blow town and hide out in the islands somewhere...So I want an arrest sooner rather than later

Jim__

(14,082 posts)
26. If he tells the truth, he'll go to jail.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:45 AM
Mar 2012

But I wonder if he even knows the truth. When you look at pictures of Trayvon - I don't know if those are recent pictures - you have to wonder how anyone could feel that threatened by this young kid. Especially Zimmerman who is 28 and outweighs him by 100 pounds. Zimmerman has to have been so blinded by his hate that he couldn't really see Trayvon. I doubt that he wants to picture him now.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
27. I hope he finds himself in General Population very shortly.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:00 AM
Mar 2012

He can then explain himself to his fellow inmates and see what they think of his actions.

elias7

(4,024 posts)
31. Flight risk?
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:28 AM
Mar 2012

If he is not charged, there will be riots. wonder if he'll sense he is in deep water and flee.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
33. I guess you don't understand the rules..
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:37 PM
Mar 2012

If you want to stay out of trouble:

(1) Never talk to the police without your lawyer.

(2) Never talk to the media without your lawyer, or

(3) Never talk to the media, period.

Zimmerman, has already been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. He has absolutely nothing to gain by talking to any media person, ever. Nor the police.

He can only be compelled to talk to the Grand Jury.

I imagine by now, he has realized he has fucked up such that it is going to cost him his freedom, and the only question, is for how long. He has nothing to gain, and much to lose by talking to anyone he doesn't have to.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
38. I do understand the rules, of course
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 04:38 PM
Mar 2012

I really don't expect him to say a single word to the media. As a matter of fact, I was surprised that his father had issued that completely asinine statement in defense of his son. It wasn't any defense at all.

If he goes out in public again, I hope that he'll be in handcuffs. I quite sure that he's considering flight, if he's not already gone.

My entire point was the fact that Zimmerman was so zealous about "defending" that community from a constant "threat" of young black males that he had to make repeated calls to 911 over that period of time AND shoot down Trayvon Martin.

If he felt that he was in the right, where is his zeal now? A decent person would be wracked by shame instead. I doubt that he is ashamed. Scared, maybe, at the court of public opinion as we all know, for sure. But let's say that you and I agree that he's lacking any decency or sense of responsibility for his own actions.

Innocent blood is on his hands. I hope that the guilt of having that blood of Trayvon Martin on his hands it keeps him awake at night, no matter where he goes.

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