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MSNBC has featured some high quality reporting on the "troubles" of New Jersey Governor Chrispie recently. The Chrispie scandals are similar in some manners to previous political scandals, both on the federal and various state crimes. Some of the DUers my age likely sense shades of the Watergate cover-up; others will think in terms of the Plame scandal; or perhaps, the cheaper corruption of Rod Blagojevich.
The New Jersey state republican party is using MSNBC's reporting as an excuse to raise funds. This is less to support Chrispie, and more about banking for the future. Those who claim that there is really nothing about the investigations of the governor, or that nothing has been proven, are either ignorant or damned liars. However, this is a tiny minority of republicans nationwide. Both the republican party's rabid wing (tea party) and corporate gentlemen will both exploit Chrispie's suffering for their own benefit.
And suffering there will be. Both the state and federal investigations are taking a similar approach. Generally, it is the same approach as used in the investigation of organized crime. One studies the possible crime or crimes in an orderly way. First, one considers the power structure being investigated. Materials are collected. Then, even when a high-profile person is suspect, you begin at the outside, or lowest levels, of the group.
You send them notice that you need a certain group of documents. If they cooperate, you interview them. If they refuse to cooperate, you inform them that you need specific documents. You do this based upon what you've already learned, with focus on the area that individual is most at risk. And you let them know you are going to need to talk to them.
There are, of course, more people at the lower levels than as you move up. They tend to be less invested in protecting the boss, or bosses. Once one begins to turn, more will. One must be patient, and investigate all those at lower levels; this provides a more solid base of evidence to be used at the second level.
Governor Chrispie will come to have little loyalty from the highest levels around him. When he did his press conference in January, he did more than throw a couple of them under the bus: he insulted them in a manner that precludes his being able to protect them. Even Nixon was publicly loyal to the aides he sacrificed to try to save himself. Hence, they tended to be loyal to him (except John Dean). It was VP Cheney who demonstrated that his loyalty to Scooter Libby paid off, for very few politicians deserve incarceration more than Cheney.
The national republican party will reject Chrispie by summer. Although he has reportedly raised funds in his current travels for other governors, it keeps him in far too high a profile. In the period between mid-summer and the fall elections, the republican party does not want his scandals being reported by the media. In time, like in previous scandals, people Chrispie has to listen to will quietly tell him that he needs to fade away.
Then, it will really be interesting.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Her team is pretty darned good, too. (The same holds true for the others on MSNBC, excepting only the "mourning show."
I'd note that Rachel is the only one I've heard connect the bridge bit directly with NJ Supreme Court seats. The lower level cogs will not be able to expand upon that. But once it gets to Ms. Kelly, that becomes an issue.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)I appreciate it!
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)Those who are issued subpoenas for documents or interviews or both, if they refuse what is the worst that can happen to them?
Laxman
(2,419 posts)that carries a fine and possible jail time. One interesting note is that the legislation that enables a finding of contempt calls it a "misdemeanor" . It shows how old the statute is and how little it has been used. NJ did away with the terms felony and misdemeanor in the early 70's when the state adopted a form of the uniform criminal code and classifies everything as either a disorderly persons offense or as some degree of crime. A misdemeanor would most likely be judged analogous to a disorderly persons offense with a maximum of 6 months.
The legislative committee is only the side show. The real action is at the U.S. Attorney's office. I'm almost certain that the legislature is gearing up for impeachment. Christie and his crew's real worries should come from what the U.S. Attorney is up to. Unlike Christie, this US.Attorney doesn't leak his work in progress to the press for political effect.
Right on target on every point. Thank you.
The legislative committee is important in one primary way: it is the procedure needed to set up a possible (likely) impeachment. But in terms of which investigation will scare the lower levels right up to the top the most, and has the greater legal authority, it is definitely the USAO.
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)no real impact for refusal?
I want to see what or if the AG will do anything. If I've been understanding things isn't there both state and federal AG's looking into things? Chrispie isn't the only one in danger, right?
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)MSNBC's Hardball, the first 12 minutes focused on exactly the information in this OP/thread.