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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:04 AM Feb 2014

Michael Sam's Dad went drinking after learning son is gay...‘I’m a man and a woman type of guy’

Michael Sam’s dad: ‘I’m a man and a woman type of guy’
By Zach BrazillerFebruary 12, 2014 | 9:28am

Five days before he told the world he was gay, Michael Sam informed his father of the revelation via text message.

The former University of Missouri football star’s announcement, made through ESPN and the New York Times, went over better with people he didn’t know.

Michael Sam Sr. received the text message: “Dad, I’m gay” Feb. 4 as he was celebrating his birthday at a Denny’s in Dallas. He immediately left the party, the New York Times reported on its website Tuesday.

“I couldn’t eat no more, so I went to Applebee’s to have drinks,” Sam Sr. said. “I don’t want my grandkids raised in that kind of environment.

http://nypost.com/2014/02/12/michael-sams-dad-im-a-man-and-a-woman-type-of-guy/

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Michael Sam's Dad went drinking after learning son is gay...‘I’m a man and a woman type of guy’ (Original Post) kpete Feb 2014 OP
A 'womanly' type of guy? randome Feb 2014 #1
Hmmm. Maybe I'll try that line. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #9
Yieks! yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #2
Here's hoping he sees the way people are embracing his son and can came around. Brickbat Feb 2014 #3
I wonder what type of advice the bartender gave him snooper2 Feb 2014 #4
Michael Sam Sr. is one twisted dude. Botany Feb 2014 #5
A Baptist Minister goes drinking @ Applebee's. ieoeja Feb 2014 #26
Sad shenmue Feb 2014 #6
Give it time. This is family bidness. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #7
Yep - but thank goodness the New York Post is there to keep us all updated on it. nt el_bryanto Feb 2014 #13
That's what I don't get RockaFowler Feb 2014 #15
What kind of parent? A shitty one...nt joeybee12 Feb 2014 #21
If Big Daddy wanted to keep "family bidness" private, he could easily have said "no comment". bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #23
And he wouldn't have mentioned LibertyLover Feb 2014 #32
Still, he got drunk and was in the public eye, all in 24 hrs. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #33
So you'll eat at a fast food place that underpays its employees, closeupready Feb 2014 #8
I'm willing pipi_k Feb 2014 #10
Not me...not one fucking bit... joeybee12 Feb 2014 #22
I'm not. Paladin Feb 2014 #24
Ah yes, from Mr. Father of the Year theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #11
Most will probably giggle, or frown, but this makes me really angry. closeupready Feb 2014 #14
That was my thought exactly... Rhythm Feb 2014 #16
Agreed. I will say that some gay people I've known closeupready Feb 2014 #17
I've seen worse. Iggo Feb 2014 #12
‘I’m a man and a woman type of guy’ - does he think HE has to be gay? Lex Feb 2014 #18
So to show his grandkids the proper way to handle grief or anger, he goes and gets drunk...at libdem4life Feb 2014 #19
Once the shock passes and dad confronts his own insecurities Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #20
Geez, people, give the guy a break. WillowTree Feb 2014 #25
So race and region excues bigotry in your mind? Here's the deal, you can bet that Drinker Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #28
No. I'm just saying that often a person's knee jerk reaction isn't what he really thinks or feels. WillowTree Feb 2014 #29
LOL. maybe he learnt that way cos he is a shitty father?? La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2014 #31
i think his dad is just an asshole and he knows it, he knew the type of reaction JI7 Feb 2014 #36
So much for the big house that athletes often buy for their parents KamaAina Feb 2014 #27
Duck Dynasty fan. nt alp227 Feb 2014 #30
'I’m a man and a woman type of guy’ Kurovski Feb 2014 #34
I hope that one day, the father is worth the notice of the son. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #35
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. A 'womanly' type of guy?
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:06 AM
Feb 2014

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yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. Yieks!
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:08 AM
Feb 2014

First of all Michael should have spoken to his father on the phone. However, the father's conduct is awful especially that line about "I don't want my grandkids raised in that kind of environment". He and his Father need to have a conversation about this ASAP. I know a lot of parents are shocked when they first find out and eventually come around. I am sure that Michael's father will accept him eventually. At least I hope so.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
26. A Baptist Minister goes drinking @ Applebee's.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:20 PM
Feb 2014

Baptists are not supposed to drink. So he can't have his car seen in the parking lot of a bar.


RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
15. That's what I don't get
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:33 AM
Feb 2014

Why is his father going to the New York Post about this?? Shouldn't he try to support his son by oh I don't know - not saying anything derogatory. Why would he want to hurt his son like this in such a public way?? What kind of parent does that??

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
33. Still, he got drunk and was in the public eye, all in 24 hrs.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:25 AM
Feb 2014

While that is my approach regarding family affairs, there is little guarantee with "no comment," 'cept more resporters coming round for another pass. Give him a break. I bet he'll come around.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. So you'll eat at a fast food place that underpays its employees,
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:13 AM
Feb 2014

and poison your body with intoxicating alcohol, and apparently see nothing wrong with that in terms of raising children.

Got it.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
10. I'm willing
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:20 AM
Feb 2014

to cut the guy some slack.

He had a knee jerk reaction.

Bam. Totally out of the blue.


Give him some time to come to terms with reality vs. his own misguided and out-of-date belief system.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. Not me...not one fucking bit...
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 02:20 PM
Feb 2014

I can see if he was shocked, but his reaction was bigotry..."that kind of environment." Fuck him.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
24. I'm not.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 02:30 PM
Feb 2014

Mr. Sam had 8 children. 3 of them are dead, and 2 of them are in prison. He's drinking for a lot of reasons besides his successful football player son being gay.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
11. Ah yes, from Mr. Father of the Year
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:21 AM
Feb 2014

The Baptist deacon who took one of his sons to Mexico so he could lose his virginity.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10439397/father-michael-sam-struggling-news-son-gay
Michael Sam Sr. troubled by news
Updated: February 11, 2014

(Michael Jr. says)
"I endured so much in my past: seeing my older brother killed from a gunshot wound, not knowing that my oldest sister died when she was a baby and I never got the chance to meet her," he said. "My second-oldest brother went missing in 1998, and me and my little sister were the last ones to see him ... my other two brothers have been in and out of jail since eighth grade, currently both in jail."

(Because as we all know, Sam Sr., there's nothing as bad as being gay.)

The Times reported that when Sam returns to his hometown he usually stays with friends instead of his family.

"I'm closer to my friends than I am to my family," Sam told the newspaper....

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
14. Most will probably giggle, or frown, but this makes me really angry.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:30 AM
Feb 2014

In part, because I see this kind of hypocrisy all the time, and in part because it really is a huge double standard that has a VERY significant impact on my life, where gay people are held to superhigh, superhuman standards, and everyone else is part of the family no matter what - axe-murderers, dogfight kingpins, puppy eaters - whatever it is, it's okay, as long as you aren't gay.

Rhythm

(5,435 posts)
16. That was my thought exactly...
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:43 AM
Feb 2014


On a side-note, though: Junior ~still~ should have had this conversation with his dad in an actual PHONE CALL, or better yet, IN PERSON...
Text-messaging something that important (as equally important as any engagement-announcement, death-in-the-family, got-accepted-to-Harvard moment) is just bad form, IMHO.
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. Agreed. I will say that some gay people I've known
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:53 AM
Feb 2014

literally hated one or both of their parents - heck, I've known straight people who did, too. In that light, it would make sense that having built a life on your own resources, you'd not feel it necessary to keep your folks in the loop about something like this. But in general, yes, you'd let them know first before doing it so publicly.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
12. I've seen worse.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:27 AM
Feb 2014

He's working through it. Hopefully he'll come out better on the other side.

Hard enough to do it in private, let alone with some gossip columnist up your ass.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
18. ‘I’m a man and a woman type of guy’ - does he think HE has to be gay?
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:55 AM
Feb 2014

That statement is just weird.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
19. So to show his grandkids the proper way to handle grief or anger, he goes and gets drunk...at
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:58 AM
Feb 2014

Applebees' where he can cry in his beer and slobber all over everyone there.

Very good move, Michael Sam.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
25. Geez, people, give the guy a break.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:20 PM
Feb 2014

He's sitting in a restaurant having his lunch/dinner/whatever and out of nowhere he gets a TEXT MESSAGE from his son saying "Dad, I'm gay".

Those of you who are also Southern black men who heretofore had no clue that this was the case and had this happen in your life and who calmly said to yourself, "Oh.......I'm so glad." and then went on with your dinner, good for you. I'd venture to say that most men in Mr. Sam's situation would be stunned and would need some time to wrap their hearts and brains around it and might initially react in some semi-irrational way. Take away the "Southern" part and the "black" part and even the "men" part and I daresay that this is not what most folks would consider everyday news. People take time to digest something like this and figure out that it's OK. As I recall, even Cher reacted badly to the news that her daughter was gay initially.

So be intolerant yourself and throw stones if that's what floats yer boat, but I'll be much more interested in how Mr. Sam has adjusted to the knowledge of his son's sexuality a few months down the road.

And gee, maybe his knee might have jerked a little less over this if his son had broached the subject with more tact (and balls) then to send it in a text message, apparently without preparing him for it first. Michael Sam dropped a few points on my class-o-meter for that.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
28. So race and region excues bigotry in your mind? Here's the deal, you can bet that Drinker
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:49 PM
Feb 2014

Dad will 'come around' the moment a high dollar contract comes around. Too many of us have seen that out of bigoted families in the past. Get rich and suddenly it's all good.
If you know someone is going to insult you, why not text them the news? On the other hand, if you are so super upset and ashamed, why run to the fucking press to share it with the world as Sr did?
This man let his son live in a car and during much of Jr's high school career he traded chores to friends families for board. A text seems almost too good for the man.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
29. No. I'm just saying that often a person's knee jerk reaction isn't what he really thinks or feels.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 04:40 PM
Feb 2014

So glad that you've got everything in life figured out and that everything is cut and dried in your mind. Apparently there's nothing that could happen that might throw you for a loop. How very nice for you. Intolerant, but nice. And how consistent that you expect more tolerance in others than you're willing to show to them.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
36. i think his dad is just an asshole and he knows it, he knew the type of reaction
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:38 AM
Feb 2014

he would get from his dad. based on the other things he said and how he took another son to mexico to lose his virignity he doesn't really seem like the type of parent most kids will look to for support.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. So much for the big house that athletes often buy for their parents
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:32 PM
Feb 2014

after they sign their first pro contract.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
34. 'I’m a man and a woman type of guy’
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:24 AM
Feb 2014

Isn't that technically known as "bisexual"?

Greedy daddy. "and"

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