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They're growing more than just weed out in Washington State .... (Original Post) Scuba Feb 2014 OP
It is an excellent idea, and I wish more cities would implement it. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2014 #1
Check this VIDEO: Coyotl Feb 2014 #13
This was so good LWolf Feb 2014 #30
Thank you for adding this! Scuba Feb 2014 #36
I saw that a few months ago. Phlem Feb 2014 #2
What a fantastic idea!!!! Control-Z Feb 2014 #3
K&R reusrename Feb 2014 #4
You mean walk up to a tree... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #5
Heck, when I was a kid...we had to climb fences for free fruit angstlessk Feb 2014 #6
I remember in the fall rustydog Feb 2014 #14
Sure is, Rustydog... malthaussen Feb 2014 #39
I s'pose one might even argue that removing a dandelion from a corner stoop is theft LanternWaste Feb 2014 #55
SUPERB!!! calimary Feb 2014 #7
i went and checked it out last summer CarrieLynne Feb 2014 #8
You haven't had an olive pokerfan Feb 2014 #9
LOL n/t indie9197 Feb 2014 #16
Pucker up! MineralMan Feb 2014 #24
Beautiful....Go washington n/t bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #10
Love the idea, but like so many wonderful ideas, I have to to sadly wonder if it'll work as we hope brett_jv Feb 2014 #11
Higihly unlikely. They would have to carry it home. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #19
The pessimistic cynic in me agrees. CrispyQ Feb 2014 #34
I don't know about Washington but here the farmer's market isn't like a swap meet where KurtNYC Feb 2014 #50
probably a tad too cold for citrus there steve2470 Feb 2014 #12
Pear, apples, cherries, rustydog Feb 2014 #15
oranges don't do well if it dips below freezing steve2470 Feb 2014 #17
Hazelnut trees would be great, too. We do that well here in the NW! Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #45
Plum trees do well in Seattle too Sanity Claws Feb 2014 #33
There is no citrus in the PNW because it freezes here. Coyotl Feb 2014 #42
A Unitarian church not too far from my house ohas an edible front garden and it invites JDPriestly Feb 2014 #18
Great idea! No wonder Seattle kicked our butts! mountain grammy Feb 2014 #20
even with our VERY short growing season, we could certainly do something niyad Feb 2014 #48
yes, all cities should demigoddess Feb 2014 #21
Clearly this amounts to communism. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #22
You laugh, but that's exactly what our oligarchs will argue. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #28
Oh, I know it. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #59
I love the thought but envision possible gun battles over stand your fruit ground. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #23
Fantastic! lonestarnot Feb 2014 #25
Cool idea Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #26
Sadly, that's the first thing I thought packman Feb 2014 #32
Right, it's terrible that's the first thought Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #37
Good idea. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #27
Great idea! Will the park service employees spray the trees? B Calm Feb 2014 #29
Perhaps they need an packman Feb 2014 #31
Every city should do this. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #35
It's called Beacon Food Forest and here's more information about it. Brickbat Feb 2014 #38
Thank you for adding this! Scuba Feb 2014 #40
Yay!! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #41
It's an idea which should have implemented long ago, but Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #43
I too often struggle to keep my cynicism under control. Scuba Feb 2014 #44
My instant guess is that you live in a place with more conservatives in power than Seattle Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #66
Virginia Beach, VA Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #70
there is a lovely town in england where the public square, and, indeed, most niyad Feb 2014 #46
Thanks for adding. Scuba Feb 2014 #47
Well, some local R will just strip the trees and sell the fruit for profit. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2014 #49
Ag theft laws KamaAina Feb 2014 #62
I hope my cynicism is unfounded and such laws won't even be necessary. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2014 #65
Oh yeah, THAT will stop them. kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #71
A link to their facebook page for pictures canoeist52 Feb 2014 #51
Check this out; A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #52
Hopefully, the trees will be friendly. Chef Eric Feb 2014 #53
great idea! k & r. n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #54
Betcha some "entrepreneur" will take it all for themselves and sell it kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #56
See #62 above. KamaAina Feb 2014 #63
gardeners rock! questionseverything Feb 2014 #57
Love My State MFM008 Feb 2014 #58
Those would do really, really well in California KamaAina Feb 2014 #60
just make sure the soil is not lead contaminated AngryAmish Feb 2014 #61
Super awesome. blackspade Feb 2014 #64
Yes, indeed… I know about food forests MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #67
Take a hike Chico Man Feb 2014 #68
It's part of a public health campaign. We made weed legal, want to offer a healthy alternative jtuck004 Feb 2014 #69

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
2. I saw that a few months ago.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:59 PM
Feb 2014

That's my state! Don't know why I didn't post, must be all the weed.


-p

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
3. What a fantastic idea!!!!
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:03 PM
Feb 2014

Imagine if this catches on with the rest of the country? I love this plan!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
5. You mean walk up to a tree...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:08 PM
Feb 2014

pick a piece of fruit, eat it, amd pay no one? Damn commies (how I wish I could lib in such a progressive place)

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
6. Heck, when I was a kid...we had to climb fences for free fruit
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:37 PM
Feb 2014

I like this...since I am too old to climb anything

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
14. I remember in the fall
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:27 AM
Feb 2014

walking past orchards and picking apples right off the tree for a snack on the way home.

That is theft, isn't it?

I think Seattle's idea is a good one. I hope it works.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
39. Sure is, Rustydog...
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:48 PM
Feb 2014

... the guilt from doing it caused a huge crisis of conscience for Augustine of Hippo. So much so that when he grew up he denounced others for the same thing.

You know, kind of like Republicans and pot.

-- Mal

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. I s'pose one might even argue that removing a dandelion from a corner stoop is theft
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 04:35 PM
Feb 2014

"That is theft, isn't it?"

I s'pose one might even argue that removing a dandelion from a corner stoop is theft. Thankfully, I don't know anyone quite that absurdly dogmatic enough to argue as such...

CarrieLynne

(497 posts)
8. i went and checked it out last summer
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:41 PM
Feb 2014

wasnt much more than a few squash plants at that time but certainly room for alot more....i am excited about it and I might have to go volunteer there.....

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
11. Love the idea, but like so many wonderful ideas, I have to to sadly wonder if it'll work as we hope
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:20 AM
Feb 2014

What's to stop the trees being cleaned out the first day the fruits ripen by people who just want to turn round and sell it all at Farmers Market (or even just to hoard it for themselves)?

With all my heart I hope such fears are totally misplaced, and it turns out to be a beautiful 'community thing' where everyone will take only what they need.

That would make for a very nice 'lesson' to certain people in the world who need to learn certain things about humankind, as a matter of fact.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Higihly unlikely. They would have to carry it home.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:58 AM
Feb 2014

As I stated below, a church in my area has a front garden that is edible. It invites those passing by to take one item to eat. I don't think they have had a problem with theft although they are on a busy corner.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
34. The pessimistic cynic in me agrees.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:29 PM
Feb 2014

This summer, a church in our town had a garden of pumpkins. I don't know if they were going to sell them or just give them to the kids in their congregation, but one night, about two weeks before Halloween, someone smashed all the pumpkins. There's always gonna be some asshole to fuck things up.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
50. I don't know about Washington but here the farmer's market isn't like a swap meet where
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 04:09 PM
Feb 2014

just anyone can show up and sell. Mostly you need some kind of farm first.

This kind of open garden has been done many times before in blighted neighborhoods. Seems to have gone well:



Not sure why many want to claim to be "the first" to do something but Washington will be far from the first. Urban agriculture is red hot right now.



steve2470

(37,457 posts)
17. oranges don't do well if it dips below freezing
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:48 AM
Feb 2014

I think Seattle gets below freezing. Otherwise it's a wonderful idea.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
33. Plum trees do well in Seattle too
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:20 PM
Feb 2014

I know --- I had one in my yard when I lived there.
Other things that I remember doing well in Seattle: herbs: rosemary, thyme, oregano, chives;
vegetables: zucchini, small tomatoes (not enough sun for Beefsteak tomatoes), pumpkin, butternut squash
fruit: cherries, plums

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
42. There is no citrus in the PNW because it freezes here.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:23 PM
Feb 2014

But, we do have some of the best fruit in the nation, especially the apples, pears, cherries, peaches, and more. Kiwis do well and grapes thrive.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. A Unitarian church not too far from my house ohas an edible front garden and it invites
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:56 AM
Feb 2014

passers-by to pick one thing to eat. I think it is a wonderful idea. What a great park for Seattle.

niyad

(113,333 posts)
48. even with our VERY short growing season, we could certainly do something
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:08 PM
Feb 2014

similar. we do have some community gardens, but that is not the same thing at all.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
21. yes, all cities should
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:39 AM
Feb 2014

do this. We should plant trees all over the place to freshen the air and purify the water. And loads of fruit trees for locally grown produce. for Local neighborhoods and for homeless people. Also it might help the bees if they keep down the pesticides.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
32. Sadly, that's the first thing I thought
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:19 PM
Feb 2014

Some Yoyo will climb a tree, branch will break, person injured, park/city sued, program discontinued, park bulldozed. Litigation evolution.
Nevertheless, great idea and hope it works. Loved to climb my grandmother's sweet cherry tree back in Pennsylvania to pick those dark , ruby red sweet cherries. Still can remember the taste and the adventure of climbing that tree. Still can remember the internal distress the following day from eating all those cherries also.

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
37. Right, it's terrible that's the first thought
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:39 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe if they charge $1 then it covers it under normal business practices.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
29. Great idea! Will the park service employees spray the trees?
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:34 AM
Feb 2014

If they don't spray, the fruit will be wormy.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
31. Perhaps they need an
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:14 PM
Feb 2014

Adopt-A-Tree program. Donate money for the upkeep-spraying, trimming, pruning, etc. - of a tree. Bet they'd be quite a bit of support for this.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
43. It's an idea which should have implemented long ago, but
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:25 PM
Feb 2014

the cold cynic in me says:

1. The city is begging for a lawsuit the moment some kid eats something rotten

2. Since the local Philistines go batshit insane over deeds for the common good, I could see some mob storming the park in the middle of the night; beating any homeless to death and poisoning all the gardens

3. Since the local Philistines believe anything "socialist" means the Bolsheviks are officially taking over, it will take 30 seconds for the "AH DONT WAHNT MAH TAX DOLLAHS PAYIN FOR _____" -crowd to make it an issue in local/city elections

4. Because the "Church of Capitalism" believers live to show us all how big of a bunch of dicks they can all be, I can see them hiring the homeless at a buck an hour to harvest all the crops to sell roadside at a markup...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
66. My instant guess is that you live in a place with more conservatives in power than Seattle
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 07:34 PM
Feb 2014

Seattle recently elected a socialist, not a 'Socialist' but an actual socialist, to the City Council. 'Church of Capitalism' impresses no one. It has no protections to allow it to hire the homeless for a dollar and set up business with impunity.
Where DO you live? I know it is not out West.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
70. Virginia Beach, VA
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:26 PM
Feb 2014

Home of Pat Robertson, the anti-tax loons long before they started calling themselves the 'tea party', and the rugged, "no free lunch" individualists...

niyad

(113,333 posts)
46. there is a lovely town in england where the public square, and, indeed, most
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:03 PM
Feb 2014

of the businesses and residents, plant edibles--trees, fruits, all sorts of things. there are MAPS to tell you who is growing what--and it is all free for the picking!! what a novel idea. todmorden:

Incredible Edible Todmorden project
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Incredible Edible Todmorden project is an urban gardening project started in 2008 by Pamela Warhurst, Mary Clear and a group of like minded people in Todmorden, West Yorkshire, England.[1][2] The project aims bring people together and through actions around local food, help change behaviour toward the environment and build a kinder and more resilient world.

Since its conception, the Incredible Edible ethos has been taken up by communities all over the world where local people are coming together in their own time to turn unloved pieces of land into community gardens growing food to share, and there are now more than twenty other 'Incredible Edible' towns following the lead of Yorkshire's Todmorden.[1]

"At first, we had trouble getting people to help themselves, because we're from a country where people say, 'Get off my land', so we had to tell people it was OK .... nearly 50% said it had had a positive impact on their income." [3] -- Mary Clear

In 2009, Prince Charles visited the Incredible Edible Todmorden project in support.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incredible_Edible_Todmorden_project
years ago, a friend and I started talking about trying to have that sort of thing here in our community--everybody growing different edibles (not wasting water on grass) so that the whole neighborhood is one gigantic garden.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
49. Well, some local R will just strip the trees and sell the fruit for profit.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:48 PM
Feb 2014

I can't help but worry. What's to prevent that?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
62. Ag theft laws
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:42 PM
Feb 2014

most agricultural states (like CA, HI) have them. Since WA grows apples and some wine grapes, I'm sure it does, too.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
65. I hope my cynicism is unfounded and such laws won't even be necessary.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:47 PM
Feb 2014

I can't always keep a glimmer of hope.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
71. Oh yeah, THAT will stop them.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

There will be no funds for enforcement, no one to watch out for wholesale crop stealing and no one wanting to bother with prosecution.

Those laws are for punishing people who steal from CORPORATIONS, not from WE THE PEOPLE.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
57. gardeners rock!
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

even if your city will not try this you can start planting here and there yourself

20 years ago I started planting asparagus, apple trees, blueberries, raspberries, all come back stuff in my yard and along my back alley.....couple neighbors did the same and now we have quite a bit of edible stuff growing

it is fun to "catch" the new neighborhood kids "snitching" an apple...we just laugh and say...you don't have to hide ,that is what it's there for

the only trouble we have had is teaching the kids to let the berries fully ripen

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
60. Those would do really, really well in California
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:39 PM
Feb 2014

especially in Central Valley cities like Sacramento and Fresno.

Not so much in drought years like this one, though.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
64. Super awesome.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:46 PM
Feb 2014

But, I bet some teabagger will vandalize it though.
We can't be feeding the homeless and the poor for free.
They need to be punished for their poverty, don't ya know....

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
67. Yes, indeed… I know about food forests
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 07:53 PM
Feb 2014

I can't think of a better way to invite a peaceful public place for everyone…

Jeebus… maybe this practice will finally take off.

Chico Man

(3,001 posts)
68. Take a hike
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:38 PM
Feb 2014

First food forest?

I wonder what used to grow there.

Could cause animal problems..

Seems very artificial and superficial.

Bugs.. Fertilizer.. Compost.. Pesticides.. Have they really thought this through?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
69. It's part of a public health campaign. We made weed legal, want to offer a healthy alternative
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:51 PM
Feb 2014

to potato chips

Got the Munchies? Grab an Apple From Your Tree!



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