If you are keeping tabs on the trial of Michael Dunn in Florida...

[busterbrown]

It is mind boggling to watch the detectives interview Dunn the day after he killed John Davis...
In cold blood for playing the music too loudly..

Dunn stated that he asked the truck parked next to him at a connivence store, to turn down the music politely and then was confronted by a barrage of profanities which included a promise of killing his “bitch” ( girl friend)..

He swore one of the Black teenagers in the back of the truck picked up a shot gun and looked as though he was pumping it and that alone told him his life was in danger and frightened to death knew he had to take action, by reaching into his glove dept...pulling his gun and blasting 9 shots at the truck, killing Davis..

There was no shot gun in the back..

Dunn took off as fast as he could back to his hotel room where he order a pizza..Contacted a friend who had connections with law enforcement and eventually was arrested by Police at his home?

I might not have all the facts correct.. I’m on the run to work.. But I watched the whole interview and the detectives were all over him and his obvious lies to the point that it was crazy..

Does anyone here have any way of finding this tape which was on CNN today and posting it?
I am just so pissed off after watching this shit making up incredible lies which absolutely made no
sense.. This was not reported on very much today by the msm... Incredible!!!

[Skittles]

1. just remember that Zimmerman's silly story defied belief too

but there are plenty of paranoid, racist gun humpers around and they do serve on juries

[Aerows]

3. He won't walk

He has no justification. Then again, I thought the same about George Zimmerman.

I think leaving him outside to have a peaceful moment tonight would do him some good.

[busterbrown]

8. This is a case of a guy who I feel (no facts yet) just came from a wedding affair for his son.

Was probably tipsy enough to get his racist gun apparatus mind set in gear and said to himself “lets go get these fuckers”.. No facts, but the reality of the situation is so fucking obvious..

Sum it up? Another case of a racist gun owner who worked himself into a frenzy and decided that the time was right to do his part in order to turn this country around..

[Aerows]

2. I think most of us are too damn cold

and scared about having another snow in the Deep South to be worried about that creep. Just leave him outside - he'll talk.

[Skittles]

4. you want I should kick your cold, scared southern ass, Aerows?

I WILL WARM YOU UP; YES INDEED

[Aerows]

6. Hell, something will have to!

My blue eyes are flashing and so are the other parts of my body that are cold as the dickens!

[Skittles]

7. Aerows, flashing body parts again

YEE HAW!

[Aerows]

10. Just deliver the weather a well-deserved ass kicking

I know the soles of your crocs are just about worn out, but I can lend you a pair of my authentic Justin ass-kickers, 16" shaft, black, 8 narrow. Kick the crap out of the weather, because it is seriously becoming an asshole for us. The plants have been taken in and out so often, they are even confused.

I think my Ficus tree is developing a complex from getting bashed on it's leaves by the door, and the Crocus is definitely unsettled.

[avebury]

5. I thought that I had heard that,

the next morning (despite having heard that the kid had died), he and his girlfriend got in the car to head home and take care of Dunn's dog. They got pulled over by the police and both were initially arrested (a witness on the scene was able to give the police a partial tag number of Dunn's vehicle). Getting arrested might have convinced Dunn's girlfriend of the wisdom of cooperating with the police as she has been a prosecution witness.

[Cha]

41. I read that too.. about going home for their dog. But, I did

wonder why she was testifying against him? That sounds reasonable.

thanks arely

[avebury]

9. Police Interview Video from Youtube

If the share does not work, you may have to go to the youtube site to watch the clips.

Girlfriend, Rhonda Rouer's police interview:

Witness to Jordan Davis shooting killing talk to police

[busterbrown]

12. Thank you so much!!!Did you watch it???..

It is amazing.... As soon as they started questioning him about why he poured all those bullets into the truck because he thought he saw someone in the back pumping a shot gun..You just knew he was completely full of shit!!

The detective stated that it was just plain lucky that no one else was injured in the truck..

And if he is so fucking scared, why didn’t he just go to a police station?.

Instead of going back to the hotel?..

[avebury]

14. I am watching the first clip now.

It may take me until tomorrow to finish all the clips.

[busterbrown]

15. I don’t know what clip I was watching..

But it was right after the detective asked if he was a Dolphin Fan.. Shortly after and then the shit hits the fan..

[avebury]

16. I am 22 minutes through the 1st clip on his interview.

You can tell the cops aren't believing him.

ETA:

Problem #1 - No weapon in the other vehicle
Problem #2 - the second volley of bullets, they tell him that he will have a high hurdle getting past that

[avebury]

17. Police - How did he get out of the truck if you

are shooting through the door?

Driver sees you with a gun, why would he let his friend let him get out of the truck.

No other witnesses on the scene told the police that the guy was getting out of the truck.

ETA - Police - People don't get out of their car to shoot someone. If they had a gun, they would have shot you from the car.

The kids did say their friend exchange words with Dunn but at no time did he threatened to kill Dunn. He has no history of violence, had no track record. The driver had stolen a car when he was younger, none of the others had any type of record.

Cop - I can see him talking shit with you. He does not buy for one minute that the kid was a threat to Dunn.

Not one independent witness has told the police anything that supports Dunn's story.

The just are not buying his story at all.

[busterbrown]

18. Question to you.. Your second line in text...

Wouldn’t defense say that he got out on his own..?

Looking forward to more highlights...

[avebury]

21. You gotta listen to the whole thing.

They are just flat out not buying his story.

35 minutes in - Don't you think you over reacted? Could it be your imagination?

There is nothing in their backgrounds that would leave the police to believe they were capable of the level of violence that Dunn is trying to attribute to the boys.

The boys never left the location. They pulled away and, as soon as Dunn left, they pulled back to get to their friend.

When his girlfriend got in the car he didn't even tell her that he had shot off his gun at the car. All he told her was that they needed to get out of this.

Around 38:40 - police says - "We are so lucky, really there should have been 3 of those 4 boys hit. You could have 3 of those guys dead. Lucky for the driver, the door kept him from getting shot. The front door had bullets in it. He also put some shots in the back of the truck, on of which hit the sun visor of the driver side.

The one that was shot died pretty quickly.

[busterbrown]

26. Again, thanks for the highlights..

Are you telling me that the the kid was shot outside the car and the friends left and then came back..??

[Hassin Bin Sober]

29. He was shot in the SUV.

The SUV driver backed out while the shooter was still shooting.

They ALL drove about a hundred yards away in to the adjacent strip mall and stopped.


This is the only place the prosecution has any problem: A 911 caller saw the commotion and saw the SUV in the next lot and called it in saying the "black males were stashing something in the back of the SUV" (or similar words)..... I don't think this slight "problem" will make a dent in the case.


The SUV then drove back to the gas station for help. A policeman and a civilian pulled the kid out of the back and tried CPR until rescue arrived. He died next to the SUV (in a different parking spot from where he was shot).

[avebury]

30. I don't think that they kid ever got out of the car.

It sounds like the driver started the car to get away from Dunn (understandable) but did not go far and returned to the store as soon as Dunn left in order to get help for their friend. The police were pretty clear that the boys did not leave the area.

It sounded like the first volley of bullets went in the driver side and back seat doors. The second volley went through the back of the car as the driver tried to get the boys away from Dunn. It is a miracle that the driver was not shot since his door got shot up and one of the volleys from the rear of the vehicle hit his sun visor. The physical evidence did not support Dunn's allegation that the kid got out of the car. Based upon independent witnesses, it sounds like the only person who got out of his car was Dunn.

Having watched the whole interview this guy is, at minimum delusional. It is pretty obvious from the start that the cops are not buying his story. He had no concept of actions having consequences. Towards the end he stated that he didn't know he was being arrested for murder and attempted murder and that really sucked. Not as much as it sucks for the dead boy and his family.

The girlfriend made a comment to the police that the drive home really sucked. Do these people have no clue about anything beyond themselves. Talk about being narcissistic!

There is a news clip about the letters he wrote while in jail. He sounds like a racist pieces of sh**. In one even talked about the Zimmerman case and that he felt he had a stronger case for self defense. He says some pretty bad stuff in his letters.

I will watch the girlfriend's interview tomorrow.

[busterbrown]

34. This guy is a total piece of crap...

I have no proof of anything except this my take to you..

He’s a racist with a gun itching to use it.. He came back from a wedding party for his son and stopped at the store for some “wine”.. I think he’s an alcoholic, combine that with a personality which thrives on rage.. In other words it was only a matter until the perfect storm hit his head..

I know about alcoholism and I gotta tell you... He definitely looked like he was withdrawing while being interviewed.. He really looks physically sick..

Perhaps I should have just emailed my thought on this aspect to you.
But I’m interested in what others think..

[Boom Sound 416]

11. It's not going to get the same air time as Zim

Because it's a slam dunk, with very little courtroom drama.

[busterbrown]

13. What I’m hoping..

Just hope there were no legal mistakes by prosecution..

[murielm99]

24. Nightline has been carrying it.

Their coverage of anything is kind of hit or miss. But they seem interested in this story, and I am sure they will continue to follow it.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

19. I've been watching the youtube videos.

There is a youtuber named croakerqueen something or other that has all the trial videos posted of this and other media trials.

I don't think Dunn was alleging they intended to kill his girlfriend. The "bitch" would have been the shooter according to the shooter.

Although Dunn DID try some lame ass excuse on for size about firing the extra shots, as the SUV pulled away to, "keep their heads down" and/or protect himself as well as his fiancé.

I'm at 90% chance in favor of a conviction. 10% chance some racist hangs the jury.

[avebury]

23. It is amazing that he talked to the police for so long

without an attorney. Major major mistake on his part.

I am 46 minutes through the Part I and I don't think that he realizes that he is in deep doo doo.

[TorchTheWitch]

36. I always look for croakerqueen about any trial

She's great about putting up YT videos of live court cases and gets them uploaded really fast. I watched all of the Jodi Arias and George Zimmerman cases on YT from her uploads.

Dunn was referring to himself with the word "bitch", not his girlfriend. She was already out of the car and in the store when the kids in the SUV pulled up, so they wouldn't have known she existed in the first place much less what she looked like. He continually claimed that the kid in the backseat (who I believe is the one that was killed) said "I'll kill you, bitch" referring to himself... this is also why he claims that he was so afraid for his own life (that he was directly threatened with death).

He's the most ridiculous liar, and his stories don't make any logical sense... "stories" (plural) because he continually kept changing his stories as the police interrogation continued (the kid got out of the SUV, the kid started to get out of the SUV, the kid never opened the door but he heard the latch of the SUV handle being disengaged, the kid got out of the SUV but got back in, etc.). Just absurd.

Watching croakerqueen's video of the first day of trial that had witnesses being examined, here...

When the man who was a witness that was shopping in the store and came out just before the shots were fired (can't remember his name) is listening with the court the video surveillance tape from inside the store, and at the point that the shots were fired, Dunn actually SMILES as he's sitting at the defense table. Ugh.

Check it out at around the 34:07 minute mark which starts with the video first starting.

[quaker bill]

20. Here is the thing (to me)

I have run into plenty of people who were playing music I did not like at volumes that were all but painful. That said, I have never asked anyone to turn it down. This I am sure is in part due to the fact that I simply do not care to ever engage strangers in arguments for any reason I can avoid. It may also have something to do with the fact that I am never armed. Alternately my choice of never being armed could be related to my never wanting to engage strangers in arguments.

Either way, the question arises, if this gent had been unarmed, would he have approached an SUV full of strangers and asked them to "turn it down"?, or would he have behaved more like me, as I would have simply concluded my business and then quickly put distance between myself and the source of the noise? (as I always do)

Do guns embolden people to make stupid choices? (or perhaps do guns just make the stupid choices people make more deadly?)

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

35. I thought he had been drinking, having just come from his son's wedding party

Not sure if he was drunk or tipsy, but it's possible he had beer muscles.

[TorchTheWitch]

37. I think he had gun muscles

Just like the guy in the movie theater that got into it with a guy he ended up shooting... some people that have guns at hand just go LOOKING for a confrontation.

[quaker bill]

42. I think SYG only requires fear, not "sober fear"....

there is probably a point somewhere between sobriety and totally blasted that SYG becomes useless. But it does not appear to be defined in law.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

44. Well, being drunk is not a defense

But then again, I don't know if he's said a thing about his sobriety at this point in the trial.

[quaker bill]

45. True

But I am not sure how sober you need to be to "stand your ground".

[davidpdx]

22. His story doesn't hold up

From what I've heard his testimony on the state was bad. I haven't followed the case closely though.

[avebury]

25. Ding Ding Ding!

Finally, at the 18:18 minute mark of Part II - "Do I need to get a lawyer? It sounds like I am in deep shit."

The truth begins to sink in.

The Black Detective stopped things to determine if he was asking for a lawyer, if so they would have to stop.

20:30 - Maybe I should just shut up.

He is too dumb to realize that he does need to shut up.

He asks about bail. There is no bond in the county they are taking him to on a murder charge.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. I have no sympathy for this nit-wit. But if the cops meet you on your front lawn....

.... with AR-15s and do a high risk take down, you ain't talking your way out of an arrest. So you might as well dummy-up. No matter how sweet, deferential or buddy-buddy the cops are acting.

Even if they ask about your favorite sports team.

[avebury]

31. When the police arrest you that should be the first clue

that you should be asking for an attorney.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

33. Who knows what they told him.

Probably told him they just needed to talk and get his side of the story. Cops can be pretty slippery when it comes to that.

He seemed awful surprised he was being arrested when he was in the interrogation room.

[rustydog]

28. No one is showing closed circuit video from the minimart

Interesting

[avebury]

32. I have seen part of it on TV

maybe on Rev Al Sharpton's show but I don't know if it is posted on line. Maybe it is on youtube. I may look for it tomorrow. It is getting late and time to turn in.

[avebury]

43. Here is a link to the store video posted on youtube

[csziggy]

38. Here are links to his police interview and hos testimony

Interview: http://bcove.me/cdbsto4g
Article concerning the interview with video on page: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-04-09/story/michael-dunn-remains-adamant-police-interview-after-killing-jordan-davis

Testimony: http://landing.newsinc.com/jacksonville/video.html?freewheel=90049&sitesection=jacksonville&VID=25610812
Article: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2014-02-11/story/live-coverage-prosecution-replays-police-interview-michael-dunn-closings

[busterbrown]

39. Thanks.. These are helpful!!!