Man who shot teen: 'He's coming to kill me' (Michael Dunn case in FL)

[steve2470]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/michael-dunn-jordan-davis-trial/5390113/

JACKSONVILLE — A Florida man accused of killing a 17-year-old after a dispute over loud music testified Tuesday that he felt threatened but tried to remain calm as the teen hurled obscenities at him from inside an SUV in the next parking space.

But Michael David Dunn, on trial for first-degree murder and three counts of attempted murder, said Jordan Davis reached down, picked something up and slammed it against the rear-passenger door of the red Dodge Durango where he was sitting. Dunn told the jury he spotted about 4 inches of an object in the window frame that resembled a 12-gauge shotgun — and their dispute over vehicle-rattling rap music escalated.

"After the continued threat of 'You're dead, (expletive)!' now the door opens and this young man gets out. And as his head clears the window frame, he says, 'This (expletive)'s going down now!' " Dunn said from the witness stand, jabbing a pointed finger.

"This is the point where my death is imminent," said the computer programmer and software developer, 47. "He's coming to kill me. He's coming to beat me."

*video of Dunn testifying at link*

[snooper2]

1. I was lazy and watched most of this trial all day

THe fucker is going down---


Lie after Lie after Lie

and busted time after time after time---


The police interrogation at the end of the day was the most damning in my mind


ROT FUCKER

[avebury]

15. I have seen a little bit on Al Sharpton's show.

Do you know of any websites with any more clips of today's testimony?

[JaneyVee]

2. ----

[freshwest]

5. Only if Crist doesn't win the race for governor. What was Bugs' beef with FL, anyway?

[JaneyVee]

7. It was actually a pretty controversial episode called 'Rebel Rabbit'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Rabbit

[freshwest]

17. I would have enjoyed seeing that one. So Faux Newz censored the part about giving Manhattan back?

Must of struck a nerve with the GOP PAC network!

Thanks for the link.

[Cali_Democrat]

33. LOL. I saw that on Gawker a few times

Cracks me up every time

[onethatcares]

34. can I at least have a life jacket?

before you banish me forever?

[HockeyMom]

3. Stay home if you live in Florida (which I do)

Don't go to a gas station, or a movie. You might get shot!

[ChiciB1]

36. Not Sure If You're Comment Is Sincere Or Just

an off the cuff semi joking statement, but I live in Florida and want you to know that there ARE people who feel that way down here.

I personally have a friend who's daughter was dating a young white man who was shot by a policeman some time back. The local police never really felt their "man" did anything wrong! More people than not thought it was outright murder and the officer had the nerve to be outraged that anyone would question what he did. AND THE OFFICER WAS "off duty" at the time!

While he shot a white kid, there is some real racism down here, and where I live the percentage of black people is very low. I always say I live in a "white bread" community! And the police department in this county has one of the worst reputations in Florida! Freely admitted by officers themselves. I know this because I've heard them say it in my presence.

SICK!

[freshwest]

4. Really? Reads like something out a movie. Not buying it. n/t

[gollygee]

6. No no no no

You don't pick a fight with someone and then shoot them when you think they might fight. Bullshit.

But I know this works as a defense in our sad world. The world sucks.

[FLyellowdog]

8. Worked for Zimmerman.

[gollygee]

9. Yep

I so hope it doesn't work again.

[FLyellowdog]

11. Well, it IS Floriduh. nt

[dballance]

10. I don't believe Steve was supporting this man

OP just seems to be pretty factual and without opinion.

[gollygee]

12. The "no no no no"

wasn't directed at Steve but at the idiot who goes around shooting people because he doesn't like their music and their skin color.

[dballance]

13. Got it thanks

[steve2470]

16. Personally I think the guy is guilty as hell

He needs to rot in prison until he dies. That's my opinion. We in Florida also need to repeal the SYG law. What was wrong with the previous law ? I see no need whatsoever for SYG. It's just an easy way for a murderer to defend himself/herself.

[dballance]

18. Agreed

This case is different from Zimmerman. This guy shot into SUV filled with people at least nine times and went and got pizza. He never even called 911.

It says something about this guys character and mental state that he thought it was okay to fire into an SUV and just leave the scene.

Did you get to see any of the prosecution witnesses or the other kids that were in the SUV? I'd be curious to hear the other side of the story.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. The argument on the case is not SYG

It's justifiable use of deadly force.

There was NOTHING justifiable this guys actions though - not one thing.

[steve2470]

27. ok thanks for accurate info ! nt

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Your welcome

I think we need to prepare for the worst - and if we understand the defense attorney's approach - it will help lessen the smack in the face.

[avebury]

14. Yeah but he also lied on the stand.

He claimed to have told his fiancee several times about seeing a gun/pipe/whatever. The prosecutor called her back to the stand to rebut his testimony. He never, at any time, said anything to her about seeing any type of weapon. Her rebuttal testimony did a number on his credibility.

Not only that, despite saying that he continued to look out the hotel window to see if the "thugs" showed up - he left his gun in his car. He could not have felt too threatened.

Earlier testimony by the three other boys in the car indicated that none of the boys heard anything said by Dunn. Defense response - if they did not hear Dunn it was because of the loud music. [If the boys could not hear what Dunn said, how could he hear anything from the boys - due to the loud music]. Furthermore, Dunn is supposed to have hearing problems which makes you wonder how he could have heard anything that the boys might have said since the music was loud.

The Defense is trying to infer that the police did not do their job properly in looking around the area for the weapon. Well, since Dunn did not bother to a) call the police that night and b) stick around for the police to arrive [which lets face it, was going to happen] - how would the police even know to look for any weapons connected to the boys in the car? He didn't even call the police first, as he got pulled over the next day because a witness got a partial plate on his car tag. He was headed home to take care of his dog. If he had not been pulled over by the police and arrested, just when did he plan on talking to them?

I would be shocked if he is not convicted. But this is Florida, so anything goes in any type of murder trial.

[Vattel]

19. Did Dunn and his fiance break up? Odd that she contradicted his story.

[avebury]

20. I think that she ended up being a key

witness for the prosecution when they presented their case. She was always their witness. She testified that, when they pulled up next to the car and it was booming with rap music, he told her "You know I don't like thug music." Her reply - "I know." And the prosecution got a hold of letters he wrote while in jail that are racist. I really think that his guy was his own worst enemy. He shot and killed a kid and went on with his evening like nothing happened and they decide to drive home to take care of the dog. It is like it never even occurred to him to call the police.

She might not like it but I don't think that she was going to lie for him. I don't see how that relationship will last. When the police pulled them over, both of them was initially arrested. That experience might have convinced her of the wisdom of cooperating with the police. It makes you wonder if there were some type of charge that they could have used to leverage her into cooperation.

[Vattel]

21. I would never cooperate with the police, but I am glad she is being honest.

[raccoon]

25. If she's still his fiancee after this, she needs professional help. nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. He's all Dunn

I saw highlights of his testimony on the news tonite.

He's so screwn.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. Throw the book at that guy.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

24. I'm all for self-defense, but....

If he was really as scared as he said he was, why didn't he call 911 after he shot up their SUV?

If I recall his testimony correctly, he said his girlfriend and he were in the hotel room looking out at the street, scared that the people in the red SUV were coming to get them. He drove all the way home, the next day, and never called the police.

He said he was on the way to the neighbors house, who is a policeman, when the cops called him.

It's like he thought he was so much in the right to shoot at a car, full of people, he didn't have to bother to report it.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. Let's take what he said in the bed and breakfast to the next level

http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-man-loud-music-killing-thought-killed/story?id=22463003

Dunn told police in the video that he was at the hotel, "sh--ing bricks, waiting for another carload of thugs to come. I've never been so scared in my life." It wasn't until later that evening that Dunn said he learned one of the teens had died.

Earlier today, Dunn took the stand at his first-degree murder trial and said the dispute with the teens over their music escalated to the point where he feared for his life and had no choice but to fire his gun.

"I thought I was going to be killed," he said.

His mentality? He's so worthless. And my greatest fear is that the jury actually fell for this bigot's line of b.s.

[arthritisR_US]

32. He was "so scared in his life" that he left the gun in the vehicle instead of taking it up to

the room for protection. He then orders a pizza because those bad guys would never come to his room right?

[Catherine Vincent]

30. He'll get off (hopefully not)

I hate it when I stop for gas then hear some guy's music blasting but you just ignore it and hurry about your business. Not get into a confrontation. He acted bold knowing he had a gun in the car.

[erpowers]

31. Something Is Wrong With That Man

I am not trying to make excuses for Michael Dunn. I think he should go to jail. However, from reading the USA Today piece, I think Dunn is a little crazy. He seems to be another person, like George Zimmerman, who watched too many movies and wanted to be a bad @ss and take on some gangsters. In the piece he claimed he told his girlfriend that they were not in trouble with the police, but they might be in trouble with local gangsters. On another occasion he supposedly claimed that he sat at the hotel/bed and breakfast fearfully waiting for gangsters to come after him. I really think he wanted that confrontation. I think he wanted to be like the heroes in the movies he watched. I think he wanted to be the guy who stood up for the right thing, pissed off the gangsters, and in the end single handedly saved the city from the gangsters and the thugs.

[TheCowsCameHome]

35. This isn't going so well.

Four day and no verdict.