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My life is in ruins. (Original Post) minivan2 Feb 2014 OP
I don't have a job either abelenkpe Feb 2014 #1
School counselors office. NOW. aquart Feb 2014 #2
What state are you in? shraby Feb 2014 #3
California minivan2 Feb 2014 #5
Try the California forum KamaAina Feb 2014 #39
I am so very sorry to hear that. SamKnause Feb 2014 #4
Do what aquart says. Control-Z Feb 2014 #6
^^^^^^ What aquart said! postulater Feb 2014 #7
Talk to a live human who loves you. Call them now. Talk it through. Squinch Feb 2014 #8
What Aquart said, school counselor NOW nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #9
Minivan, how are you doing? Squinch Feb 2014 #10
You could try... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #11
Minivan is NOT Cannon Fodder PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #12
Much better to have a "life in ruins"... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #16
"life" is the key word there. eom PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #17
*pats self down* Lost_Count Feb 2014 #23
Over 6000 veterans do not PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #31
Different mindsets I suppose... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #37
Care to edit? Your post doesn't make sense. morningfog Feb 2014 #63
Think harder... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #68
Write better. You could make sense: morningfog Feb 2014 #69
Context and point were clear... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #70
I asked for clarification, you acted pompous and self-righteous. morningfog Feb 2014 #71
Call me Shaun... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #72
The military's averaging 1 - 2 penis amputations/day riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #66
The military can be a noble and rewarding career JJChambers Feb 2014 #27
Or you can get your legs blown off. Lex Feb 2014 #28
So? JJChambers Feb 2014 #29
You point of view and that's fine. Lex Feb 2014 #34
Sorry, but your post is awful! yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #35
Yeah -- Join the U.S. Army and sacrifice yourself in service to corporate plunder ... Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #42
I'm sorry minivan2 Feb 2014 #46
You risk your life every day just walkin' around... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #48
I really appreciate you doing that for me minivan2 Feb 2014 #49
Well... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #51
My friend was considering the Army some years ago when he was in your situation. I tblue37 Feb 2014 #56
I've never had any interest in the Navy, Coast Gaurd, Marines, or Army. minivan2 Feb 2014 #57
A stint in the Peace Corps is no walk in the park, but as long as you understand what you tblue37 Feb 2014 #59
Please don't think that your only option is the military. I hate seeing people feeling forced riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #67
Are you an army recruiter? morningfog Feb 2014 #64
You really don't have to LittleBlue Feb 2014 #50
Also I want to point out minivan2 Feb 2014 #60
Second bit of advice... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #62
I was pretty much where you are once and it sucks Big Time. WillowTree Feb 2014 #13
... warrprayer Feb 2014 #14
You can do it MrScorpio Feb 2014 #15
Where are you minivan?? Check in... riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #18
please report back.... steve2470 Feb 2014 #19
How old are you, minivan2? MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #20
Things can turn around tomorrow, you could meet someone with a connection Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #21
Join the military MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #22
(graphic warning) PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #30
Thanks MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #33
We are on the same page... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #41
40 years ago I was homeless gwheezie Feb 2014 #24
That's what I remember college being all about NM_Birder Feb 2014 #25
So sorry, what do you do? What can you do? Bennyboy Feb 2014 #26
It's a matter of perspective... TampaAnimusVortex Feb 2014 #32
Unless you are depressed, it is not Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #36
Helpful Flow chart lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #38
I'm not going to try to give you advice, just know that you are not alone in your problems Fumesucker Feb 2014 #40
Sure do wish we'd hear from you again, minivan. WillowTree Feb 2014 #43
Not screwed, just at a down moment. ladyVet Feb 2014 #44
Hey everybody it's me again minivan2 Feb 2014 #45
That's good... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #47
Don't give up shenmue Feb 2014 #52
Hey, good to hear from you Fumesucker Feb 2014 #54
I don't know what Fresh and Easy is, Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #58
Thx for posting update Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #65
Here is someone who Shankapotomus Feb 2014 #53
Get angry. Get involved. But don't give up. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #55
Obama will save you. bigwillq Feb 2014 #61
Well, I took a step back today. minivan2 Feb 2014 #73

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
4. I am so very sorry to hear that.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 07:14 PM
Feb 2014

There are so many people who are destitute and suffering in this country.

I live in extreme poverty.(SSDI)

I live day to day.

There is no future for me.

I live in the moment.

I feel your pain.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
7. ^^^^^^ What aquart said!
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 07:20 PM
Feb 2014

When I was in college, I would have appreciated the advice of a good counselor. They are not always easy to find and don't always know what you need, but you can get started with one and keep looking until you find one who you are comfortable with.

(A good counselor might have put me on track several years earlier.)

Squinch

(51,014 posts)
8. Talk to a live human who loves you. Call them now. Talk it through.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 07:21 PM
Feb 2014

Nothing is over.

I know that it's cheesy and corny, but I was in a similar position many years ago. I just kept singing Billy Joel's "Second Wind" to myself. It became like a mantra.... and it turned out to be true.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
37. Different mindsets I suppose...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:35 PM
Feb 2014

I can't imagine doing having a life so dull that there was no chance something bad could happen... Ever...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
69. Write better. You could make sense:
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:43 PM
Feb 2014

"I can't imagine doing having a life so dull that there was no chance something bad could happen."

Doing having?

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
70. Context and point were clear...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:46 PM
Feb 2014

If the best point you have is about my phone typing abilities this is gonna be real short...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
71. I asked for clarification, you acted pompous and self-righteous.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:49 PM
Feb 2014

You can proof read on your phone can't you?

Or are you too busy trying to lure people into being sacrificial lambs? I think I remember you now.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
66. The military's averaging 1 - 2 penis amputations/day
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:30 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/beyond-the-battlefield-afghanistan-genital-injuries_n_1335356.html

I think if I were young, I'd probably try to stay away from doing shit that would purposefully put myself in that kind of danger.

Different mindset and all that...


 

JJChambers

(1,115 posts)
29. So?
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 12:04 PM
Feb 2014

Do you think the military is the only career with inherent dangers of physical injury? There are plenty of dangerous jobs that have fewer benefits and are less rewarding than military service. It is irresponsible to discourage someone who is down on their luck from even considering military service.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
34. You point of view and that's fine.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:13 PM
Feb 2014

Sending someone off who is poor to get potentially get blown up and mangled for life to essentially fight for oil companies and companies like Halliburton is reprehensible to me.



 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
35. Sorry, but your post is awful!
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:18 PM
Feb 2014

I did 24 years and it was great and straightened me out. I retired and am proud that I don't have to have an OP like this. The Military is exactly what is needed in this situation!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
42. Yeah -- Join the U.S. Army and sacrifice yourself in service to corporate plunder ...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:57 PM
Feb 2014

Great cause, there.

What a freaking waste of lives and resources.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
48. You risk your life every day just walkin' around...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:14 PM
Feb 2014

You could slip on a banana at Fresh and Easy... might as well risk it doing something entertaining/interesting/not boring.

In any case, my two cents is to increase your risk tolerance.

Boring and safe rarely pay off and frankly it sounds like you don't have anywhere to go but up.

minivan2

(214 posts)
49. I really appreciate you doing that for me
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:20 PM
Feb 2014

but I'm not interested in the army and never will be. And if I ever get drafted, which will thankfully never happen, I have plans to go to Canada.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
56. My friend was considering the Army some years ago when he was in your situation. I
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:49 PM
Feb 2014

pointed out to him that he could join the Navy, receive the same kinds of benefits, but with far less chance of getting used as cannon fodder.

He did so. Minimum enlistment was for 6 years. He did two years here, and two stationed overseas.

His tech training from the Navy is what made him eligible for a good civilian job troubleshooting medical computers, and he is now a happy family man with two kids, a nice wife whom he met while stationed overseas, and a job that has enabled him to support his family comfortably and buy a house.

In the old days I might have suggested the Air Force as well as the Navy as an option, but they were sending airmen to the front line in Iraq, too, so not that!

(The Coast Guard might be another option.)

BTW, he was not "good at school," either, so he was sure he couldn't handle tech school in the Navy. I pointed out to him that training their tech support personnel is essential, and the Navy (or any other service branch) has a lot invested in making sure their trainees succeed in tech school. He had little faith in his ability to learn such things (when I first started tutoring with him when he was in his early twenties, he couldn't even add, subtract, or multiply fractions!), but he graduated second in his class in tech school.

Think of the Navy, young man.

minivan2

(214 posts)
57. I've never had any interest in the Navy, Coast Gaurd, Marines, or Army.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:10 PM
Feb 2014

However, I am interested in the Peace Corps. I think I could fit in there.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
59. A stint in the Peace Corps is no walk in the park, but as long as you understand what you
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:30 PM
Feb 2014

are signing up for, it is a noble endeavor, The people I know who have volunteered have found it to be the most enriching experience of their lives (and usually one of the most difficult).

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
67. Please don't think that your only option is the military. I hate seeing people feeling forced
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:33 PM
Feb 2014

Its not for everyone.

Besides, its dangerous. Losing your life might be easier than living maimed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/beyond-the-battlefield-afghanistan-genital-injuries_n_1335356.html

The military is amputating 1 - 2 penis' per day from battlefield injuries. Think wisely before you decide to enlist and only do so if you are committed to being a warrior.

For some people being a warrior is truly their destiny.

But to be forced into it because there's nothing else?

Please. Try to see a counselor before you make rash decisions.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
50. You really don't have to
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:21 PM
Feb 2014

Join the Air Force. This isn't a knock against them (yes chair force har har), but my friend's dad was in the Air Force and they rarely ever risk their lives. He said the Air Force was mostly about logistics and other support roles. You can imagine how much in supplies such a huge army as ours needs. They do other things, I don't know what, but it's mainly non-combat from what I understand. You won't have to kill anyone or get killed. The AF probably does do combat, but it's more like special groups and elite jet pilots, roles that are competitive (so if you don't want them, don't compete)

He said his father was nowhere near combat his entire life.

minivan2

(214 posts)
60. Also I want to point out
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:07 PM
Feb 2014

My cousin was in the Air Force, so I think my family is ok if I don't become enlisted.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
62. Second bit of advice...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:21 PM
Feb 2014

It doesn't matter if your family has that block checked or not.

Go do something you find interesting.

Just don't be boring...

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
13. I was pretty much where you are once and it sucks Big Time.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:56 AM
Feb 2014

I can tell you that it can get better. You have to push through it, though. That can be hard as Hell some days, but you can do it.

Find someone to talk to. A friend or a school counselor or priest/minister/rabbi if that's your bent. Or contact your county health department. But get yourself someone you can unload on who will listen to you and not judge. If it's someone who will give an occasional hug, so much the better.

One day at a time. One foot in front of the other. You can do it.

And for Heaven's sake, keep posting.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
21. Things can turn around tomorrow, you could meet someone with a connection
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

It's a horrible place to be in, I'm not trying to minimize what you are going through. You are suffering and there is no guarantee that things might not get worse before they get better. I have a friend who literally lost everything in Hurricane Katrina, but her life didn't end with that. She had very hard times, but later some good times reentered her world. Try to hold onto the fact that new doors do open. Even though they don't always open up soon enough to prevent hard times that we fall into, when they do appear things can get better quickly.

 

MO_Moderate

(377 posts)
33. Thanks
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:13 PM
Feb 2014

but I don't need a video to remind me of my brothers in arms.

There are plenty of non-combat jobs in the military.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
41. We are on the same page...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:53 PM
Feb 2014

... Except for that last bit.

Every responsible person who joins any branch of the military should have the mindset and be prepared to deploy and fire rounds at someone else, usually while they send a few your way.

I realize that there are in fact many jobs where that is unlikely in the extreme but if they aren't ready to slap on that plate carrier and carry that rifle, they shouldn't sign.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
24. 40 years ago I was homeless
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:42 AM
Feb 2014

I went to a Salvation Army shelter and they housed me for a few months, I wound up getting a certificate as a nurse's aid and got a job as a nurses aid and lived in a commune.I really didn't want to be a nurse's aid but it was the quickest way to get some kind of skill in a high demand job, turned out I loved it. It was difficult because I also had a child.The job paid for nursing school, when I got out of school everything changed, I was able to go on to another degree, buy a home, raise my kid. Finishing school made all the difference, I haven't been out of work since then. It was a different time then, I don't know how I would do it today but the 1st step is asking for help.Ask people who will actually help though,no point in wasting time and energy.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
25. That's what I remember college being all about
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:43 AM
Feb 2014


Flip it around, school is difficult for you, work a little harder it WILL pay off in the long run. Regardless what popular opinion is, a college degree IS an extremely valuable asset.

I look back at what I thought was some of the toughest times, and now remember them as some of the best memories. My best friend and I lived for weeks on mustard and ketchup sandwiches, and a box of Bisquick, along with what could be mooched from "campus scavenging".

It was bad, and it was not funny at the time, but the key is to not give up, otherwise what will you have to laugh at after you make it ?

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
32. It's a matter of perspective...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 12:37 PM
Feb 2014

There's no where to go now but up!

One day you are going to die. Your going to look back on this day from your deathbed and wish you had problems like you have today, with all the time and possibilities and choices you have available - because in that bed, from which you wont be getting up from, all those options and choices will be gone.

What you have now is your powers of imagination, choice, and hope.... Use them.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
36. Unless you are depressed, it is not
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:23 PM
Feb 2014

If you are depressed, talk to a counselor ASAP or even call a suicide hotline.

If you don't have money to eat, there are food banks, and counselors have references to a ton of resources, including sometimes campus jobs. Go talk to people. But - if everything seems dark and everything seems too difficult, then you need to get in touch with someone who can help with that!

Half my friends (and myself) spent most of their time in school like this (I went to college during the early 80s recession).

You're not done until you think you're done.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
44. Not screwed, just at a down moment.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 03:11 PM
Feb 2014

Believe me, I've been about as down as you can get, squeaking by just barely from living on the street. It's not easy being broke, and feeling hopeless.

Please stop in and let us know how things are going. I know there are many folks on here who can point you towards help, if they knew some more details.

minivan2

(214 posts)
45. Hey everybody it's me again
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:00 PM
Feb 2014

First of all, thank you everybody for the wonderful comments, it's great that I have so much support from the DU family , second of all, I'm alive, I was just having a bad day, and I needed some support. I agree with everybody it's hard time for my generation and it's going to get harder me being 18 and all. I had an interview with Fresh and Easy yesterday (I don't know what their politics are like, so if you have any information on them make sure to tell me. I'm going to talk to a counselor tomorrow to get more help.

Again, thank you everybody for the help.

P.S. I wasn't having suicidal thoughts if you were thinking.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
58. I don't know what Fresh and Easy is,
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:14 PM
Feb 2014

but it doesn't matter what their politics are. If you need a job, and they give you a job, you just take it...as long as they don't require you to go against your basic principles to do the job. I work in an office with just about everyone else being Faux loving conservatives. I do my job. I get paid. Hell, if I needed a job, I would go to work for Hobby Lobby.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
65. Thx for posting update
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:25 PM
Feb 2014

Don't worry about the politics, just take the work if you need it.

It's not you, it's the circs, and don't decide that you are the problem. I know it is depressing when things are so difficult. But there are many, many others having difficulties like this - it isn't just you.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
53. Here is someone who
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:24 PM
Feb 2014

voluntarily elected to be in a similar position as yours:

https://sites.google.com/site/livingwithoutmoney/

Not much of a consolation but it is an example of the variety of life this earth has seen. For most of human history, there was no such thing as "employment."

If your time does not work for you, be a time traveler in your own way.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
55. Get angry. Get involved. But don't give up.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:45 PM
Feb 2014

After 30 years of getting #%^*ed by the 1% and their kept politicians, Americans are finally realizing that we need to change things.

I recommend that you find a like-minded group of individuals to work with, to go out and make change. Find a group of Liberals/Progressives with brains and an attitude, and make it happen. Life is always better with a purpose, and with support. A good group will help you to find what you need to get by.

It's your generation that will save us all. (Not to put too much weight on your shoulders...)

minivan2

(214 posts)
73. Well, I took a step back today.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:15 PM
Feb 2014

I am really failing my English class and I might have to drop. I just feel so frustrated with college and being unemployed. I wish life was easier.

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