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Taranto just doesn't think men and women physical disparities, be damned should be treated differently in such cases if both parties are drunk.Which points to a limitation of the drunk-driving analogy. If two drunk drivers are in a collision, one doesn't determine fault on the basis of demographic details such as each driver's sex. But when two drunken college students "collide," the male one is almost always presumed to be at fault. His diminished capacity owing to alcohol is not a mitigating factor, but her diminished capacity is an aggravating factor for him.
Taranto is a reliable soldier in what he's called the "war on men." He wrote last June that Democrats such as Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) were trying to "criminalize male sexuality" in their efforts to eliminate sexual assault from the military. McCaskill promptly shot back at Taranto's "bizarre and deeply out of touch understanding of sexual assault."
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SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Creating a bizarro defense for his own serious flaws.
A war on men? I'd laugh but it's really not very funny.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Are they actual assaults, or does he have a reason that the woman contributed to those, too?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Even if a woman was to walk around naked and drunk she would not be to blame. WTF!
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Moving from villain to victim in a heartbeat without a moment's remorse. I feel sorry for any woman who is in his vicinity.
Bennyboy
(10,440 posts)In the case of two rapes that I am very very very familiar with, the female was drunk. One so drunk that the guy screwed her when she was passed out. (He did not then and does not now think he raped her) on his couch. The other, two friends who stayed late at a party, got drunk, fell in bed together and she later claimed rape. (I Posted about it here). She waited days to file charges, does not remember any of the event and split our community in two. So fuzzy is her memory, she made breakfast for her "attacker" and introduced him to her mother after she was "raped", then recollected it and filed rape charges two days later. And of course the fact that she was drunk played out because she could not remember the details needed to bring charges.
]While I agree that it is NO EXCUSE to have force sex on anyone, drunk or sober, the woman does have to bear some responsibility here. The male is ultimately responsible but not solely responsible....Not in a acquit the rapist way, but in a deeper way. In neither of these cases would this have happened had the female involved not been so drunk. (the males too, for that matter).
For anyone to think that they do not bear responsibility in any way is as wrong headed as saying that "She was asking for it" or "Boys will be boys" in my opinion.
Let me be clear, I am not supporting rape, rapists, or violence against women here, but I think there is causation and it seems that alcohol is a major player in rapes. And then you need to ask yourself of the validity of a admittedly drunken accuser or witness. Just because it is a rape, doesn't make a drunken witness more valid. No, they have to be held as unreliable out of the gate due to intoxication as they would in any other crime... So a "She was drunk"defense will always be the way to win any case. ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)If one one drunk driver gets on the freeway going the wrong way and hits another impaired driver driving the correct way, the second driver bears some responsibility for the collision?
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)a friend, family, anyone, even god forbid, an editor to tell him how unacceptable his views are in a civilized society. I would think, were I a woman, I'd sure have second thoughts about even associating with this jerk. Assault on anyone is an assault. Not so very hard to understand if you can get beyond a cave man mentality.