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nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:58 PM Mar 2012

Dear GOP: The 1950s called; they aren't coming back.

The idealized, sanitized version of the perfect two-parent family, dutiful wife and obedient children is a long distant memory. It isn't coming back -- no matter how many laws you pass.

Besides, unless you were a white male, they really weren't that good -- for women, for minorities, for gays, for children. But, I guess that's why the white males are clinging to that fantasy with all of their might.

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Dear GOP: The 1950s called; they aren't coming back. (Original Post) nobodyspecial Mar 2012 OP
They love the 50's Tabasco_Dave Mar 2012 #1
And polio. SharonAnn Mar 2012 #16
Big Pharma wishes they could roll back the polio vaccine. dogknob Mar 2012 #19
Well, there are some aspects of the '50s I would like to see return Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #2
Great points nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #3
Well, I loved the furniture. PassingFair Mar 2012 #6
Bring back the top 90% tax rate and the excise tax. Downwinder Mar 2012 #4
Even the 50's weren't like the 50's. Pab Sungenis Mar 2012 #5
I agree nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #9
K&R.. butterfly77 Mar 2012 #7
You realize the 50's to the GOP is Pat Boone and not Dobie Gillis, right" MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #8
Dobie Gillis was one of the most sociologically accurate hifiguy Mar 2012 #13
Don't forget Maynard G. Krebbs Terry in Austin Mar 2012 #28
Never. When I was a kid I wanted to grow up hifiguy Mar 2012 #30
Funny, things ahead of their time... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #29
they don't want the 1950s to come back... provis99 Mar 2012 #10
I think they want to repeal the 20th century. AtomicKitten Mar 2012 #11
Economically, you're probably correct nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #12
Bingo! We have a winner. That is the base of thought for the GOP. aaaaaa5a Mar 2012 #14
The 50s were good for many working Americans. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #15
And you didn't have to worry about somebody blasting Warren G in their back yard snooper2 Mar 2012 #20
Whoa. I would definitely have bought my wife one of those beauties Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #21
I guess that would have been possible since the age of microwaves was coming snooper2 Mar 2012 #25
White males could get a job right out of high school, earn a good living, buy a house, raccoon Mar 2012 #23
Good point. My in-laws have told me stories about sleeping on the fire escape at night. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #26
I argued the point the other night _ed_ Mar 2012 #17
The first black law school (at Howard University) opened in 1869. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #18
So what? _ed_ Mar 2012 #31
You are correct, it never really existed to begin with. Even my conservative parents admit that. Jennicut Mar 2012 #22
And there was the draft. A peacetime draft. nt raccoon Mar 2012 #24
Bill Maher had a great bit about how they want to make the Honeymooners a reality. Initech Mar 2012 #27

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
19. Big Pharma wishes they could roll back the polio vaccine.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:23 PM
Mar 2012

The way our system is now, there will never, EVER be a cure for Cancer, AIDS, Herpes, whatever...

Cirque du So-What

(25,972 posts)
2. Well, there are some aspects of the '50s I would like to see return
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:08 PM
Mar 2012

There was a progressive tax structure in place, which played a role in unprecedented growth of the US economy. Wealth was much more equitably distributed in that era. Plus, even the Republicans had accepted the reforms and programs enacted during the New Deal. Aside from that, however, the '50s pretty much sucked for the groups you mentioned.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
5. Even the 50's weren't like the 50's.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:48 PM
Mar 2012

The memories of Mom, Apple Pie, and Home Sweet Home are fantasies brought on by people who don't want to remember the bad times, and those who like Parson Weems set out to whitewash over history.

We're seeing the same thing with the 80's (which was a DISASTROUS time for so many people) and even the 90's now.

They want to bring back a world that never existed in the first place.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
9. I agree
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:30 AM
Mar 2012

That's why I used idealized and sanitized in the OP.

The '80s and Reagan were truly awful. I don't get that at all.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
8. You realize the 50's to the GOP is Pat Boone and not Dobie Gillis, right"
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:28 PM
Mar 2012

These fucking people can't grasp any kind of reality.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. Dobie Gillis was one of the most sociologically accurate
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:30 AM
Mar 2012

sitcoms until "All in the Family." The Gillises were working class people.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
14. Bingo! We have a winner. That is the base of thought for the GOP.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:33 AM
Mar 2012

I would only add that it is also the party of crazy religious fanatics.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. The 50s were good for many working Americans.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:40 AM
Mar 2012

Strong union protections, good wages, jobs for life, generous pensions, reasonably priced houses, a hugely smaller gap between average Americans and the wealthy, and no banksters wrecking the economy with predatory mortgages and CDOs. Someone could get a job right out of high school, earn a good living, buy a house, a car, take vacations and have a comfortable retirement.

While gays and minorities were treated worse than they are today (especially with the despicable Jim Crow laws in the South) the 50s certainly had advantages in terms of unionization and a much smaller divide between the rich and the poor.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
20. And you didn't have to worry about somebody blasting Warren G in their back yard
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:30 PM
Mar 2012

right...

And the little lady got to look forward to her new HotPoint LOL

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
21. Whoa. I would definitely have bought my wife one of those beauties
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:37 PM
Mar 2012

if she promised to have a hot dinner waiting for me every evening.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
25. I guess that would have been possible since the age of microwaves was coming
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:57 PM
Mar 2012

Sometimes the milk man had more than milk back in those days

raccoon

(31,119 posts)
23. White males could get a job right out of high school, earn a good living, buy a house,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:56 PM
Mar 2012

a car, take vacations and have a comfortable retirement.

There were some good things about the '50's--some good music--early R&R.

One bad thing, no air conditioning. Ever been through a summer in the south with no AC?
Trust me, you don't want to go through that.




Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. Good point. My in-laws have told me stories about sleeping on the fire escape at night.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:59 PM
Mar 2012

And that was in NYC. I can't imagine dealing with that in the South. I love AC.

_ed_

(1,734 posts)
17. I argued the point the other night
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
Mar 2012

that any white man who attended medical or law school up until AT LEAST the early 1970s is illegitimate, because they only had to compete against other white men for positions at these schools. This system is sure to produce doctors and lawyers that are not as good as if they had to compete against the population as a whole.

Just another retort for those who pine for "the good old days." Only white, Christian men should look upon the 50s as "the good old days" because they used to get every advantage in society.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. The first black law school (at Howard University) opened in 1869.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:21 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.law.howard.edu/19

BTW, that's where Thurgood Marshall graduated, first in his class, in 1933.

_ed_

(1,734 posts)
31. So what?
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:04 AM
Mar 2012

Are you suggesting that there was an equal representation of minorities in 1933 in professional schools? Or in 1970?

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
22. You are correct, it never really existed to begin with. Even my conservative parents admit that.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:44 PM
Mar 2012

Women, minorities, gays were mistreated even more then and secrets of spousal and sexual abuse were kept quiet. Being an alcoholic was hushed up, drug abuse not admitted to. People rarely got the help they needed. Even men were forced into roles they perhaps did not want to be in.

Initech

(100,101 posts)
27. Bill Maher had a great bit about how they want to make the Honeymooners a reality.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012

"To the moon Alice!!!!!" and such, it seems that's what the GOP's ultimate end game is in all this.

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