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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 12:00 PM Feb 2014

Pres. Obama defends Dir. of National Intelligence who lied to Congress.

President Barack Obama has said his director of national intelligence, James Clapper, ought to have been “more careful” in Senate testimony about surveillance that Clapper later acknowledged was untruthful following disclosures by Edward Snowden.

But Obama signaled continued confidence in Clapper in the face of calls for the director to resign from members of Congress who warn of the dangerous precedent set by allowing an intelligence chief to lie to legislative bodies tasked with overseeing the powerful spy agencies.
Clapper has apologized to the Senate intelligence committee for testifying in March 2013 that the US government does “not wittingly” collect data on millions of Americans.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/31/obama-admits-intelligence-chief-fault-senate-testimony


when Snowden proved he was lying to Congress, he defended his testimony thusly:

first , he said he gave the “least untruthful” answer he could in an unclassified setting.
Later he changed his story to say that he had forgotten about an authority claimed by the government under the Patriot Act to collect the records of every phone call sent and received in the US.


Hooray for Senator Ron Wyden who challenging the dishonest answers.

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Pres. Obama defends Dir. of National Intelligence who lied to Congress. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 OP
He defends all the crooks and cons he appointed, or nominated. SamKnause Feb 2014 #1
+1000000 woo me with science Feb 2014 #3
Oh Goody....another Bash Obama thread at Democratic Underground... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #2
A very impressive tap dance hughee99 Feb 2014 #4
Who's dancing...just pointing out something obvious. No agenda huh? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #7
You are. hughee99 Feb 2014 #8
I consider WHO is trying to..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #9
Nope, I'm not playing along. n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #10
Of course you aren't..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #11
"You hate Obama you racist" argle bargle NuclearDem Feb 2014 #12
You can't win the argument so you accuse a DUer of being racist? SMC22307 Feb 2014 #16
wow. that screed was weak and frantic cali Feb 2014 #18
and edited a bunch hootinholler Feb 2014 #23
Maybe Obama was afraid that Clapper would take a trip to Russia if he didn't give him a pass. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #5
Hmmm...had not thought of that. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #6
Who would those "members of congress be"? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #13
lots of dems have expressed their disgust with Clapper. cali Feb 2014 #19
Which Democrats are calling for his resignation Progressive dog Feb 2014 #22
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #14
kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #15
K&R SMC22307 Feb 2014 #17
I've seen it claimed that Clapper wasn't lying because he hasn't been convicted of lying cali Feb 2014 #20
Puke PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #21
The Senate has a variety of tools available to defend itself struggle4progress Feb 2014 #24

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
1. He defends all the crooks and cons he appointed, or nominated.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 12:09 PM
Feb 2014

The Best of the Best.

The Best and the Brightest.

Wall Street was so very talented and qualified they crashed the world economy.

But the administration still had to consult with the very people who were responsible, to fix the mess they intentionally caused.

It is all a dog and pony show.

The US government does not govern for the people.

They sold us out.

The corporations own us.

How many corporations are involved with the Military Industrial Complex ???

57% of the US budget goes to the military and war profiteers.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
2. Oh Goody....another Bash Obama thread at Democratic Underground...
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 12:48 PM
Feb 2014

Why he is the WORSTEST President EVAH!!!

The confederacy....nice...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie

Dixie:
Web definitions
Confederacy: the southern states that seceded from the United States in 1861
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=dixie


The song originated in the blackface minstrel shows of the 1850s and quickly grew famous across the United States. Its lyrics, written in a comic, exaggerated version of African American Vernacular English, tell the story of a freed black slave pining for the plantation of his birth. During the American Civil War, "Dixie" was adopted as a de facto anthem of the Confederacy. New versions appeared at this time that more explicitly tied the song to the events of the Civil War. Since the advent of the North American Civil Rights Movement, many have identified the lyrics of the song with the iconography and ideology of the Old South. Today, "Dixie" is sometimes considered offensive, and its critics link the act of singing it to sympathy for the concept of slavery in the American South. Its supporters, on the other hand, view it as a legitimate aspect of Southern culture and heritage and the campaigns against it as political correctness. The song was a favorite of President Abraham Lincoln: he had it played at some of his political rallies and at the announcement of General Robert E. Lee's surrender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1900sc_SM_Dixie.jpg

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
4. A very impressive tap dance
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 02:50 PM
Feb 2014

A straw man with a dose of "shoot the messenger" while avoiding the OP's entire topic.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. You are.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 06:27 PM
Feb 2014

Yes, i do see an agenda. When anything critical of the president shows up, there's someone there to post a "you're just out to get the president" type response. Sometimes it successfully hijacks the discussion to change the subject from an actual debate on president's statement to what the OP's "agenda" is. Other times, it's not so effective.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
9. I consider WHO is trying to.....
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 06:29 PM
Feb 2014

Would you nod your head in agreement if this were Rand Paul or Chris Christie too? The myopathy is contagious it seems...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. wow. that screed was weak and frantic
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:57 PM
Feb 2014

no one said anything like what you claim, van.

but distraction and faux arguments are what you serve up.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
13. Who would those "members of congress be"?
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 09:03 PM
Feb 2014
But Obama signaled continued confidence in Clapper in the face of calls for the director to resign from members of Congress who warn of the dangerous precedent set by allowing an intelligence chief to lie to legislative bodies tasked with overseeing the powerful spy agencies.

Was Wyden included? Was Paul? How many were Democrats?
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. lots of dems have expressed their disgust with Clapper.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:01 PM
Feb 2014

Grayson, Schiff, Leahy and many many more.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. I've seen it claimed that Clapper wasn't lying because he hasn't been convicted of lying
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:02 PM
Feb 2014

yes, that lame shit has been expressed right here at DU.

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