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applegrove

(118,682 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:17 PM Jan 2014

"Is Rand Paul trying to help Hillary Clinton?"

Is Rand Paul trying to help Hillary Clinton?

By Jennifer Rubin at the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/01/29/is-rand-paul-trying-to-help-hillary-clinton/

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) when challenged on ”Meet the Press” about the purported GOP “war on women,” replied that Democratic President Bill Clinton was a sexual predator and it was hard to tell Hillary Clinton from Bill Clinton sometimes. By Tuesday he was saying Bill Clinton’s behavior didn’t really apply to Hillary Clinton. He declared, “It’s not as if I’m bringing this up 20 years later. I was asked a direct question. ” Actually he was asked about Republicans and women; he was the one who dragged Clinton into it. He wasn’t done, however. Somewhat unintelligibly, he asserted, “I think that one of the things that have moved forward, one of the things that was rotten about the old patriarchal system we did have, was that bosses took advantage of young women in the workplace. And I think Democrats tried to make Bill Clinton out [as], ‘Oh, just a guy who has a lot of affairs.’ But several of these were in the workplace.”

Let’s count the ways in which this was foolish and suggests Paul is nowhere near being ready for primetime.

Starting from the top, the way to combat the charge about the war on women is to confront it directly, not with an ad hominem attack. Paul could have spoken about the physical harm done by unregulated abortion mills. He could have talked about the Democrats’ shoddy economic record which has harmed women, or the party’s refusal (due to Big Labor objections) to pass flexible work laws that allow employers to give moms and dads time off during the day to spend with their kids without incurring overtime pay costs when the time is made up later. Instead, he dragged in one of the more popular Democrats around, thereby losing every non-partisan Republican who might have been listening.

Second, he sounds like he swallowed “The Feminine Mystique” without bothering to chew. Really, he is going to tie Monica Lewinsky’s voluntary affair with the president to the horrors of “the old patriarchal system”? Once again, the obvious hypocrisy of some in the women’s movement doesn’t help Paul, or more important, conservatives win this argument.

Third, making Hillary Clinton responsible for her husband’s cheating smacks of that “old patriarchal system.” It is also incoherent since this situation was one in which you really could tell Bill Clinton (the cheater) from Hillary Clinton (the wronged wife). It was so incoherent Paul had to take it all back a couple of days later, proving his entire Clinton history venture was misguided.




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"Is Rand Paul trying to help Hillary Clinton?" (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2014 OP
Rubin smacked him around a bit... DonViejo Jan 2014 #1
First time I agree with Jennifer Rubin on anything. Beacool Jan 2014 #2
again, I agree DonCoquixote Jan 2014 #3
You said it........... Beacool Jan 2014 #4
In addition to being gaffe-prone, Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #5

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
1. Rubin smacked him around a bit...
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jan 2014
It is episodes like this that have nothing to do with ideology that make you realize how weirdly tone deaf Paul is, and how poor is his circle of advisers.


Paul's an empty suit. He rode into the Senate and is building his "career" there on rhetoric and hyperbole; he doesn't seem capable of having deep thoughts on much of anything. Not an impressive man at all.

I saw a post somewhere today reporting the Klondike Kardashian was on her FaceBook page ripping Peggy Noonan. Palin strongly dislikes Noonan...for pretty much saying Palin was unqualified back in '08. Another GOP grudge carrier.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
2. First time I agree with Jennifer Rubin on anything.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:10 PM
Jan 2014

"If the super-small government crowd and/or the isolationists want a standard bearer they might find one who doesn’t have terminal foot in mouth disease. Otherwise people will conclude they are all kooks."

The problem for the GOP is that they really are kooks.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
3. again, I agree
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:19 PM
Jan 2014

It's not that the Democrats are offering the hungry American voters a steak dinner, it is that even the best of the GOP offers nothing more than low-budget dog food.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
4. You said it...........
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:07 PM
Jan 2014

There's also the fact that the GOP doesn't know how to deal with Hillary. Some idiot in Montana running for a House seat called her the Anti-Christ and the worst threat facing the nation.

In what world do these people live?


Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
5. In addition to being gaffe-prone,
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:36 PM
Jan 2014

there is another way that RP could help HC in 2016, were she to run:


In this video, Thom had speculated that some of RP's stances on various social issues could push our nominee in the next presidential election leftward. I think he makes a good point, although I don't recall RP ever endorsing gay rights.
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