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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMOYERS & CO" “There was a class war, and the poor people lost and the working people lost”
THE SCAM OF WHAT AMERICA HAS BECOME
Video & More:
http://billmoyers.com/episode/david-simon-on-america-as-a-horror-show/
Former journalist and TV showrunner David Simon excoriated not only what he described as a broken American government in an interview with Bill Moyers on Friday, but a defeated labor movement.
The fights gone out of labor, Simon told Moyers. Labors lost the fight. Capitals won.
To the victor go the spoils, Moyer retorted.
There was a class war, and the poor people lost and the working people lost, Simon continued, arguing that the country did best economically when labor activists and businesses had a more level playing field, ensuring that neither of them won all the time.
more here too:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/31/david-simon-tells-bill-moyers-there-was-a-class-war-and-the-poor-people-lost/
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)impossible to defeat, a purchased Congress. The money has been a poison.
K&R
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)Boy does that quote speak volumes.
CatholicEdHead
(9,740 posts)It is a time where Capital is more powerful than Labor, but times do change, history shows that it has gone back and forth. Labor will make a return when Capital overreaches and the pendulum will swing the other way.
kpete
(71,996 posts)BUT
i have been waiting 62 years for that pendulum...
peace, (still waiting), kp
CatholicEdHead
(9,740 posts)But from the fall of the era of the British East Indian Company to the Gilded age of the late 1800's, to the progressive revival of Labor in the 1910s and 1930s, to the slow drop since WWII, it all goes in cycles.
Labor can make a revival, but it will be even tougher this time as international capital has learned from the past. There is a way, things will eventually turn around, I cannot give a time frame right now.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Billions of dollars worth of resources have been devoted to yanking the pivot point rightward.
Just depending on overreach won't pull it back.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)I like to think of it as a change in the center of political gravity occurring, and not in a positive way.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)adirondacker
(2,921 posts)kpete
(71,996 posts)and thanks,
kp
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)It's absolutely one of the best interviews I've heard in quite some time.
I posted it in Good Reads to give it a bit more exposure.
Looking forward to hearing the second part next week.
kpete
(71,996 posts)I am traveling today - Moyers will be a perfect companion
thanks,
kp
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)David Simon is brilliant and has insight and knowledge of both "sides" and talks about it fluidly.
Enjoy!
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)K & R because it bears repeating.