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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBattles on the streets of Kiev, Ukraine (many pictures)
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Battles on the streets of Kiev
I came to Kiev. I came to see for myself what is happening here. Of course, an hour after arriving at Maidan, you begin to understand that everything what you've read in dozens of articles, saw in TV news reports is total crap. In the upcoming reports I will try to, as objectively as possible, to sort out this new wave of Kiev revolution.
Usually reporters try to answer the question: Who came out to Maidan and why. Depending on the political leaning of MSM, the answers are different. Some say it's fascists who came out to lynch the Moscali (Ukranian derogatory for Moscovites and Russians in general)., some say they're bums and slackers, who've got nothing better to do and instigators on the government payroll. In reality, there is no answer. Those who came out are completely different. Remember, how a couple of years in Moscow there was a MSM buzzword angry townspeople. Here you see football fans, retirees, office plankton. And everyone is standing together. A sweet, ol' grandmother is pouring Molotv cocktail in a nationalists' bottles; and a manager of a large company is carrying ammunition to the student. And as it seems to me at this time, these people do not have a specific plan, nor idea of what to do next. Of course, individually, everyone has their own plan to save Ukraine. For some its we need a couple of crates of AKs and grenades, we'll sort things out here quickly. Others need to ask the world community for help and bring in the UN troops. At this time there is no central idea of what to do, an idea that can unite and point in one direction the people at Maidan.
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Battles on the streets of Kiev, Ukraine (many pictures) (Original Post)
Crabby Appleton
Jan 2014
OP
”The only thing that is completely clear – people came out against Yanukovich."
pampango
Jan 2014
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1000words
(7,051 posts)1. Thanks for posting
The photos are spectacular.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)2. I have been to Kiev
Not the way I saw it....those are some pictures. Wow!
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)3. rec
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)4. Wonder where that specific "catapult" design originated?
I realize the catapult is an an ancient invention, but in high school we used you use something pretty much identical to that pictured to launch water balloons on campus (more of a giant slingshot, really).
Also effective between houseboats on Lake Mead...
Certainly being put to a different use in Kiev.
pampango
(24,692 posts)5. ”The only thing that is completely clear – people came out against Yanukovich."
Fantastic pictures and great insight into what is going on.
I would like to dispel the most common myths about Maidan.
1."They destroyed the whole city"
Not true. All of the action you see in the pictures are happening on a small square near the entrance to a Dinamo stadium. This is a government sector, there is no intereference in peaceful life outside of this area. ... Even the statue of Lobanovsky, located in the epicenter of fighting has been covered with cloth to prevent damage. Overall, the protesters are very careful regarding property. They've take apart fences and benches, but no windows are broken, noone is vandalizing, and all looters are caught and beaten. So the picture is pretty apocalyptic, but things are not so bad.
2. "This is not a revolution, nothing horrible is happening"
Also not true. This is a real revolution. Decide for yourselves: it's been two months since the center of Kiev has been in the hands of the opposition. Several government buildings are seized. The work of many government offices is paralyzed. The opposition has created barricades, which the authorities have not be able to take. Despite the freezing temps, tens of thousands of people are on the streets for the last two months. The system of defense and supply chain are established. There is perfect order at the protestor HQ, people are fed, dressed, people are pooling money to gather supplies. The most important thing: the people in power are unable to restore order. The police has failed several times at try to storm the barricades. I'll make a separate post about this, but trust me, the only way to dismantle this is with heavy artillery, or drop in commandos. Every day the opposition is securing more territories. What is this if not a revolution?
3. "The entire Kiev is paralyzed, there is no peaceful life for the regular people."
Kiev is living its own life. All stores and cafes are working, people are going to work, study in universities, get married, divorce and even die their own death. Most of the Kiev populace are not inconvenienced. ... Also, those living in the center have troubles with logistics. But the entire Kiev is not paralyzed.
Now, when you know all the truth, lets see how this day was.
1."They destroyed the whole city"
Not true. All of the action you see in the pictures are happening on a small square near the entrance to a Dinamo stadium. This is a government sector, there is no intereference in peaceful life outside of this area. ... Even the statue of Lobanovsky, located in the epicenter of fighting has been covered with cloth to prevent damage. Overall, the protesters are very careful regarding property. They've take apart fences and benches, but no windows are broken, noone is vandalizing, and all looters are caught and beaten. So the picture is pretty apocalyptic, but things are not so bad.
2. "This is not a revolution, nothing horrible is happening"
Also not true. This is a real revolution. Decide for yourselves: it's been two months since the center of Kiev has been in the hands of the opposition. Several government buildings are seized. The work of many government offices is paralyzed. The opposition has created barricades, which the authorities have not be able to take. Despite the freezing temps, tens of thousands of people are on the streets for the last two months. The system of defense and supply chain are established. There is perfect order at the protestor HQ, people are fed, dressed, people are pooling money to gather supplies. The most important thing: the people in power are unable to restore order. The police has failed several times at try to storm the barricades. I'll make a separate post about this, but trust me, the only way to dismantle this is with heavy artillery, or drop in commandos. Every day the opposition is securing more territories. What is this if not a revolution?
3. "The entire Kiev is paralyzed, there is no peaceful life for the regular people."
Kiev is living its own life. All stores and cafes are working, people are going to work, study in universities, get married, divorce and even die their own death. Most of the Kiev populace are not inconvenienced. ... Also, those living in the center have troubles with logistics. But the entire Kiev is not paralyzed.
Now, when you know all the truth, lets see how this day was.