Police Shoot Unarmed Man With His Back Turned And Arms Raised (GRAPHIC VIDEO in link)

[MrScorpio]

Pinal County, Arizona- Police shoot another unarmed man to death. Manuel Longoria had turned away and raised his arms mere moments before an officer fired into him. A week later that officer is back to work. The video included below contrasts with the explanation given by police.

The Pinal County Sheriff’s Office said it investigated the shooting. That investigation found the officer’s use of force justified. But that was before the video taken by an onlooker surfaced. Now the phrase “suicide by cop” is being used. Judge for yourself.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/26/warning-video-police-shooting-graphic-justified/

Manuel Longoria, of Mesa, AZ, had led police on a 40 minute chase in a stolen car. Police disabled the vehicle and Longoria got out. That’s when witnesses report, Longoria said he had a gun and wouldn’t be taken alive. But no one saw a gun, or any other object, in Mr. Longoria’s possession. No gun or weapon of any kind was found on scene.

[SoCalMusicLover]

1. Who To Believe? The Pigs Or The Dead Guy?

Another Pig in fear for his life from a non-existent weapon. Well, if he THINKS he saw one, that's good enough. Give that pig a donut stat.

[Logical]

2. I am not a fan of cops. But he said he had a gun and initially looked like he was getting back...

into the car. This after a 40 minute car chase. They did not want him getting back in the car.

The shots after he raised his hands were too much I admit. But at that point he had ignored many command to freeze.

I have many posts against cops. This one was not 100% wrong.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. I would like to see the report filed prior to the video surfacing.

[Logical]

6. 90% chance the cops lied on the report. Cops lie all the time. n-t

[Comrade Grumpy]

11. They killed an unarmed man with his hands raised in the air. That's about 95% wrong.

[Logical]

16. You have to look at what happened before he raised his hands. You cannot go on a.....

40 minute car chase, risking people getting killed and then try to get back in the car.

I have 100s of posts against cops. In this case this guy caused his own death.

[quinnox]

3. If someone says they have a gun and so on, then they can expect lethal force

I am on the cops side on this one. That said, I didn't watch the video, nor am I interested in doing so. I am sensitive and am not interested to see a real shooting.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. They shot him in the back while he had his hands up.

In the pigs' defense, the guy was acting like a fucking idiot, including trying to get back in the car, up to the split second he turned and put his hands up.

On the other hand, the less than lethal bean bags and tasers worked and caused him to put his hands up. It kind of defeats the purpose of the less than lethal force if you shoot the guy after the less than lethal accomplishes its goal.

On the other other hand, who acts like such a fucking idiot with all those guns pointed at you? Now is the time to pucker up and hit the dirt spread eagle..

[quinnox]

8. fine, but if a guy leads the cops on a chase for 40 minutes, and then tells the cops

that he won't be taken alive and has a weapon, I find it hard to blame the police for having an itchy trigger finger in that situation. That is my opinion.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. I really can't argue that.

[Comrade Grumpy]

10. You won't look at the evidence, but you've made up your mind to support the police. Got it.

[quinnox]

12. I gave more of an explanation in post #8

That is my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, and it turns out these police officers are charged with wrong doing. I wouldn't have a problem with that, because I was not there, and am giving my first impressions.

[Comrade Grumpy]

13. Oddly enough, it is legal to possess a gun in the United States.

I didn't know it was an instant death penalty offense.

[quinnox]

15. Yea, but threatening police officers is a crime, and a bad idea

[rgbecker]

4. Can't wait to get old and retire to Arizona....Seems like a friendly place.

NOT!

[lpbk2713]

14. Doctors used to say retiring there was good for your health.

Not if local law enforcement has anything to say about it!

[linuxman]

17. I'm undecided.

You can't really tell what happens that split second before the first pops. Why does the cameraman always jitter just before the most important part?

It sort of looked and sounded to me as if the first few thuds were the sounds of beanbag rounds or something from a shotgun, meant to disable the man and get him down. Instead of the desired affect, he instinctualy sought to get away, which he unfortunately tried to to be going for the drivers seat in the vehicle.

Like I said, I'm on the fence here.

Do you let the guy get back into a vehicle and speed away, likely killing someone in the process? Was he going for a weapon in the vehicle? Would he have gone for the vehicle at all had he not (by my conjecture) been hit by less-lethal shots just prior to making a move for the car?

At first glance, this looks pretty black and white, but I'm not so sure how to call this one. Sucks that he dies though.

One of the big problem with firing stun rounds out of a conventional firearm is that nearby officers may think you are firing a real gun and fire as well in order to bring down a threat. Not uncommon for a guy to get hit with a beanbag and then have some dumbass put a few 9mm into him.

[Eleanors38]

18. Have to wait & see, but there is a whiff of SBC, here.

Pretty sad.