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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 05:51 PM Jan 2014

Anybody else not watching the SOTU tonight?

I'll be putting the munchkin to bed and catching up on a dvr'ed show (if there are any to watch).

I realize that Obama's gonna say some stuff (that will be covered here in depth tomorrow), so I won't really miss anything.

And after Obama speaks, there's going to be what, 37 responses from tea baggers, repukes, dick heads, assholes, and fascists. I definitely wont miss that.

I'm not a big fan of politics after 6 in the evening.












Here's a cat wearing shades with a cabbage leaf on its head

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Anybody else not watching the SOTU tonight? (Original Post) NightWatcher Jan 2014 OP
"Justified" is on at ten. I definitely won't miss that. Best show on TV..IMO..n/t monmouth3 Jan 2014 #1
I like Justified also. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #8
Also, my main man Jason Statham is on CLOO in Crank, Chaos and War. Whadda night!..n/t monmouth3 Jan 2014 #11
IMO too Nightjock Jan 2014 #60
lets not forget all the posts on DU about how much they really really really hate Pres. Obama... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #2
I assume that by this you mean some people might disagree with President Obama? el_bryanto Jan 2014 #10
"disagree" ....I like how you talk Karl.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #13
My names Bryant. Not Karl. Not sure where that is coming from. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #16
Karl Marx? Armstead Jan 2014 #46
I won't be either. Nothing new, and I have no doubt the msm will be touting the view from the tea lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #3
Ditto. I have heard enough speeches in my life. Even the good ones bore me. Shrike47 Jan 2014 #5
I hear you lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #39
*raises hand* quinnox Jan 2014 #4
I'm not sure what I'll be doing Warpy Jan 2014 #6
Can't bring myself to watch anymore Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #7
I expect, then, that ... frazzled Jan 2014 #9
I cant have an opinion unless I watch it live? NightWatcher Jan 2014 #17
I didn't say "live" frazzled Jan 2014 #18
May I read the transcript or enlightenment Jan 2014 #29
Look, my point is this frazzled Jan 2014 #37
Frazzled, I get it. enlightenment Jan 2014 #42
It's SOTU, not STFU. Throd Jan 2014 #44
I won't be listening. LWolf Jan 2014 #58
I will BUT ChangeUp106 Jan 2014 #12
I have to be out, but I'll try to catch a video later. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #14
Can't... Xyzse Jan 2014 #15
I'll watch it, but will avoid the media pigs and pundits and other trash by using CSPAN only for the AlinPA Jan 2014 #19
Nope. I will pass. Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2014 #20
I will be taping it. I will not bother to watch the rethug response. jwirr Jan 2014 #21
Nope. Downton Abbey is on, TheCowsCameHome Jan 2014 #22
There is only so much I can handle as well. I don't enjoy watching things I know will make me mad. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #23
It's become nothing more than a verbal pissing match and I've had enough of that to last a lifetime. Boomerproud Jan 2014 #24
I'll read it online later. I can read in 10 minutes what Arkansas Granny Jan 2014 #25
I won't watch. Mention of TPP might have me sending my remote.... yourout Jan 2014 #26
actions speak louder than words... so no. n/t boomer55 Jan 2014 #27
Me dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #28
I can haz kitteh? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #30
I will not be watching Riftaxe Jan 2014 #31
I won't watch. Other things to do. And I've seen the show before. Smarmie Doofus Jan 2014 #32
will not be watching onethatcares Jan 2014 #33
I've had a long day and much family stuff to do tonight. riqster Jan 2014 #34
I never watch SOTU addresses. FreeJoe Jan 2014 #35
got other pipi_k Jan 2014 #36
I skip commercials. Particularly those made by politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #38
I always enjoy watching the President enter fadedrose Jan 2014 #40
I haven't made up my mind yet. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #41
I'll get the highlights in the morning. Throd Jan 2014 #43
I'm sick Mz Pip Jan 2014 #45
Few things less boring than a SOTU speech. Nothing to do with the SOTU and everything... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #47
Actually scored a goal last game! Iggo Jan 2014 #49
And I was out of the room! n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #50
Lol...me, too!!! Iggo Jan 2014 #51
I try to never watch it. Iggo Jan 2014 #48
I'll be 'watching' it here: I figure skilled DUers will almost immediately post up petronius Jan 2014 #52
Me neither - it will be dissected here tomorrow, and I refuse to watch the Nay Jan 2014 #53
I don't have TV, so I definitely won't be watching it. scarletwoman Jan 2014 #54
I forgot it was going to be on. LWolf Jan 2014 #55
At worst you'll miss some tea bagger yelling liar and shots of the duck yuppie acting hillbilly..nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #56
I hope to, but I'm DVR'ing it... The only reason for ecstatic Jan 2014 #57
Nope. Nothing he says MEANS anything. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #59
Might as well ask me to watch a televised "debate." 1000words Jan 2014 #61
I've heard enough talk. sendero Jan 2014 #62
I won't be watching the propaganda show wherein "we're at war" and such will be recited Corruption Inc Jan 2014 #63
I didn't watch it. AngryOldDem Jan 2014 #64
I did not see it. PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #65

Nightjock

(1,408 posts)
60. IMO too
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:56 PM
Jan 2014

love that show with a passion!
I will DVR the Prez and will listen tomorrow to speech in the background as I get kids ready for school.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
2. lets not forget all the posts on DU about how much they really really really hate Pres. Obama...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jan 2014

and how everything he said is a "damned lie" because he is a "stealth Republican" or some other such rot!

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. I assume that by this you mean some people might disagree with President Obama?
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jan 2014

Particularly if he defends policies they disagree with - like the TPP treaty.

Bryant

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
3. I won't be either. Nothing new, and I have no doubt the msm will be touting the view from the tea
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 05:55 PM
Jan 2014

baggers

I will of course catch up on it here at DU


 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. *raises hand*
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jan 2014

I might watch clips if I hear the speech was really good, but sitting there and watching it from beginning to end? Oh hell no. I hate all that frilly stupid pomp and circumstance. I hate how it takes forever to have the president enter the chamber and speak. I hate how they all have to stand up and applaud like monkeys if the president says something especially patriotic, like about the troops. Etc etc.

Warpy

(111,276 posts)
6. I'm not sure what I'll be doing
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jan 2014

I'm not big on political speechifying. I might have it on with the sound off just to watch the sourpusses on the GOP side all sitting on their hands while I listen to rude music.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
7. Can't bring myself to watch anymore
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:03 PM
Jan 2014

It's just more of the same empty words I hear from any politician. While in theory I agree with all the ideals and progressive objectives...I fail to see improvement in my life on the ground and that's why I can't listen anymore, it just makes me mad.

That, and I don't have TV

And, like you, OP, I know it will all be covered extensively here and elsewhere if something really does make history. But until I see things really CHANGE and things implemented rather than just talked about...I ain't buyin it.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. I expect, then, that ...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jan 2014

you (or others who decide not to watch) will also not be commenting on the State of the Union speech here.

Because unless you watch it (either live, or afterward on video), your comments can only be useless second-hand drivel based on what you read or hear from others. That's an abdication of responsibility, and nothing that you say about can really carry any weight.

I'm fine with people not watching it. But I'm not fine with people not watching and then claiming to have an opinion.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
17. I cant have an opinion unless I watch it live?
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:07 PM
Jan 2014

What about after I read the highlights?

Will you be patrolling the boards and enforcing this?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. I didn't say "live"
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:12 PM
Jan 2014

In fact, I specifically said afterward on video.

See, you didn't even read my post correctly, so how could I trust your opinion about the speech based on what you read?

And no, I won't be policing. I rarely read nor remember any user names here.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
29. May I read the transcript or
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jan 2014

is "watching" (live or replay) a necessity before I can claim to have an opinion?

Actually, whether or not you are "fine" with it means nothing to me . . . but you might want to clarify your instructions for those who believe that you are the arbiter of all things SOTU.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
37. Look, my point is this
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jan 2014

There are lots of reasons one might not watch the State of the Union speech: you have something else to do (e.g., my husband teaches a class tonight), you don't have TV, or you don't care. That's fine (and transcripts are fine, by the way). It's FINE not to watch it or even read about it. It's not everyone's cup of tea.

But if you're going to come here and make a big deal about how you're not going to watch it because it's blah blah, always the same thing, or because if anything big happens someone will tell you about it, or it's just too boring, or because it's all just talk ... then you kind of cede your right to comment about it. If it's too boring or irrelevant to watch, it's too boring or irrelevant to talk about.

And, as a side matter, it's always amusing to hear how it's just actionless talk ... often from the very same folks who are the first to post actionless talk from anyone other than the president. I like to listen to what everyone has to say.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
42. Frazzled, I get it.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jan 2014

Your post came across as the worst sort of finger-wagging; that is what precipitated my response. In this one you are clear - in the last one it was "you can do this - or this. But if you don't do either, you have no room to speak. So sayth . . . me."

You didn't mean it that way, but that's how it reads.

BTW - I never watch the SOTU because I have the attention span of a gnat and all the pause for applause stuff drags it out far past my point of interest (same goes for awards shows).

I always read the transcript, though - and will tonight (especially since I have tasked my students to watch/read the SOTU after asking them today "how many of you will watch, listen to, or read the SOTU tonight? *crickets* "Okay, then. ALL of you will watch, listen to or read it tonight." College students. Makes me want to bang my head against the wall).

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
58. I won't be listening.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:52 PM
Jan 2014

Or, if it already happened, I didn't listen.

My positions on policies and politicians are pretty solid, and I don't expect the speech to inspire me or to unveil some sort of 180 degree turn on the policies that drive my attention and support, and I don't give a shit what any media talking head or political "spokesperson" has to say about it.

So no, don't worry, I won't be commenting on the speech, here or anywhere else. I just dropped by to look something up on the 'puter, and checked the front page. I'd forgotten there was going to be a speech until I saw this thread title, which says quite a bit on where that speech fits in my priorities.

I hope it was, or will be, good for you.

Let me know if he announces the resignation of Arne Duncan, the abolishing of RTTT and high-stakes testing, and the rest of the neoliberal education and economic policies he supports. If so, it will be worth my time, and I'll find a transcript to read.

ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
12. I will BUT
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:05 PM
Jan 2014

I'm worn out. It doesn't matter what Obama or any other POTUS says. The other side will block any initiatives assuming he even fights for them after tonight. It's sad.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
19. I'll watch it, but will avoid the media pigs and pundits and other trash by using CSPAN only for the
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:12 PM
Jan 2014

speech. I'll use the mute button until he comes on.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
20. Nope. I will pass.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jan 2014

I am that point where a speech is worth crap all to me. I'll wait to catch the recaps online.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
23. There is only so much I can handle as well. I don't enjoy watching things I know will make me mad.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jan 2014

I probably won't watch it either.

Boomerproud

(7,955 posts)
24. It's become nothing more than a verbal pissing match and I've had enough of that to last a lifetime.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jan 2014

I'll probably be on the 'puter. Thanks for letting me say that since my mom is in the room.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
25. I'll read it online later. I can read in 10 minutes what
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jan 2014

takes an hour to say, what with all the interruptions for applause, etc.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
31. I will not be watching
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:46 AM - Edit history (1)

I'll grab a transcript tomorrow and read it, why waste an hour when it can be read in 5-10 mins?

CNN Transcripts: President Obama's 2014 State of the Union address



On edit: Added link to full text of the 2014 SOTU

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
33. will not be watching
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jan 2014

and the sun is as far away from my sign as it will be this year so I should get more rest. Cue snores.

I used to watch, but I'm tired of pretty speeches and Arne Duncan.

Sorry.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
34. I've had a long day and much family stuff to do tonight.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:46 PM
Jan 2014

I will avidly read a transcript while I do my Domestic God routine.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
36. got other
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jan 2014

things to do instead.

Like read. Or play SongPop on my iPad and listen to music on it while browsing Flipboard and News 360. Knit. Watch a DVR'd program on coywolves.

My usual nighttime agenda.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
40. I always enjoy watching the President enter
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jan 2014

and shaking hands with members of both parties..(some)

I don't enjoy his positive remarks cheered by the Dems met with cold stares from the Reps...

I enjoy watching him leave shaking hands...

No matter what he does wrong or doesn't do at all, I still can't help but love him. I like the man, always did and probably always will.

Am sending vibes and hope you all do too that he hits it out of the park....

Putting the kid to bed is YOUR priorty, and you got it right. When she (?) is older we expect you to stay up and drink.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
41. I haven't made up my mind yet.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:30 PM
Jan 2014

It comes on early here, and we want to go out and watch the sunset. It'll probably rerun later, but if it doesn't? Oh well...

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
45. I'm sick
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jan 2014

I have a cough and a fever. I do not want to get out of bed. Maybe I'll catch some on line commentary.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
47. Few things less boring than a SOTU speech. Nothing to do with the SOTU and everything...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jan 2014

to do with cheering one side over the other.

I prefer the precedent Thomas Jefferson set in 1801 that lasted all the way through the 19th Century and until Woodrow Wilson was President: Submit it in writing and send it to Congress to be read by a clerk.

Besides, there's a hockey game on tonight, and the Kings are on a winning streak. One in a row. They need my help...

petronius

(26,602 posts)
52. I'll be 'watching' it here: I figure skilled DUers will almost immediately post up
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jan 2014

the good bits, so if I just read the SOTU threads it will have the effect of TiVOing through all the applause-breaks...

Nay

(12,051 posts)
53. Me neither - it will be dissected here tomorrow, and I refuse to watch the
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jan 2014

Pubs act like assholes. I just don't see the point of listening to speeches any more. They raise my hopes and then reality dashes them. Can't endure that again.

I watched the latest installment of True Detective.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
54. I don't have TV, so I definitely won't be watching it.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jan 2014

I have a radio, which is permanently tuned to NPR, and I'm leaving it off.

I'm quite confident that whatever Obama has to say in his SOTU speech will be beside the point. The actual POINT of where we find ourselves is predatory capitalism, and nothing else.

Somehow, I find myself very much doubting that Obama is going to go all Angela Davis on us.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
55. I forgot it was going to be on.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jan 2014

99% of political speeches leave me feeling the same as listening to a televangelist: nauseous and needing a shower.

If there were ever a president in the WH whose words and policies I valued, I'd probably tune in. That's just been non-existent in my decades of adulthood. I'm not one who needs to turn up negative drama, or who gets inspired by calculated speeches, so I won't be tuning in.

ecstatic

(32,711 posts)
57. I hope to, but I'm DVR'ing it... The only reason for
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jan 2014

watching live is to be able to respond to comments in real time.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
62. I've heard enough talk.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:11 PM
Jan 2014

.... I'm tired of empty rhetoric that is like a sugar high, feels great for a few hours and then you crash for months.

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
63. I won't be watching the propaganda show wherein "we're at war" and such will be recited
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:43 AM
Jan 2014

I hear there was a lot of hope expressed that things will change while criminal bankers, torture camps and disastrous trade agreements were presented as things we all need or else disaster will happen.

Actually, I can't think of a more corrupt time in American history and sure the Propagandized State of the Union did not reflect that in any way, shape or form.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
64. I didn't watch it.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 06:21 AM
Jan 2014

Got home from work at 9 after 12 straight hours of dealing with politics. Don't need to deal with it at home. Stayed up long enough to download some podcasts and went to bed.

ON EDIT: And yes, I too am getting pretty close to the point where I just don't give a shit anymore. State of the union sucks. Has for a long time. And there's just not much I can do about it except take care of those things that are within my control.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
65. I did not see it.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 06:39 AM
Jan 2014

But a scan through the ops here makes it appear that nothing was said that was of any import.

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