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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders Loses His Cool In Heated Argument With Michele Bachmann (And He’s Right!)
Once they got going, all the host had to do was get out of the way as these two ideologically opposed lawmakers went at each others throats for nearly 13 minutes straight, debating everything from social economic inequality, taxes, and Americas quality-of-life relative to other developed countries.
Time after time, Michele Bachmann came at Bernie Sanders with carefully rehearsed Republican lies and talking points, but the independent senator was absolutely not having it, cutting her off, standing his ground, at dispelling each and everyone of her choreographed lies with the hard dose of truth and facts.
If there was ever a video that displays just how out of touch Republicans, the Tea Party, and their starlings such as Michele Bachmann are with the harsh economic reality faced by the American people after the devastating Bush Recession, this is it.
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)But he remained cool.
Blitzer, on the other hand, has never been cool. Wolf: "This was an excellent discussion."
Triana
(22,666 posts)Seriously.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)But I too felt the urge to slap her sillier.
valerief
(53,235 posts)that's how Dems in Congress behave. They don't want to work with Republicans. I thought that he stuck it out was admirable.
I'll bet his 9-hour filibuster was easier than sitting beside that Republican parrot on a loop.
I was thinking the same thing.
valerief
(53,235 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Bernie is going to be right close to 100% of the time.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)I think when she is actually right, the discussion might revolve around the Minnesota Twins or something.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)It's like she's a pre-programmed robot spewing lies and debunked policy statements.
Triana
(22,666 posts)..over top of Bernie Sanders.
I think if I were him I'd say: "Well, it's evident that I will not be allowed to speak uninterrupted on the subjects you are inquiring about. Until or unless I am allowed to speak without interruption, I'm leaving the set."
pampango
(24,692 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)Bachmann annoyed the SHIT out me - just watching her. The obstinate mouthy beyotch refused to directly answer any questions and refused to SHUT. HER. MOUTH. long enough for Bernie Sanders to say ANYTHING.
Gaaaaahhhhhhhh! I felt like slapping the bejeezus out of her.
She has the GOP M.O. down - talk over top of anyone else who disagrees and repeat Tea Bagger talking points over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over - nevermind they have no basis in fact. ANNOYING!
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)there's a picture of Michele Bachman.
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)Come on Bernie just clock her, and be done with it.
tblue
(16,350 posts)He's amazing. To face off with that? And not get mad enough to cuss and throw something? And stick to facts and reasoned argument while that other mouth was talking garbage? That takes something very, very special.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Blitzer is hideous
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)You don't have to nice to liars. Especially the ones like her. Call them liars to their face is needed more than ever.
ChangeUp106
(549 posts)Somebody needs to make a parody of the Beats commercial where Bernie puts on headphones when Michelle starts talking. "I'm the Man" by Aloe Blacc starts playing and it fades out to "hear what you want."
snooper2
(30,151 posts)If she becomes some regular fucking asshole on news shows after "retiring" I may just lose it---
Triana
(22,666 posts)Anything to get her to shut up for 30 seconds and let someone else talk. Maybe she'll be provided that in prison. If not, her fellow inmates would find some way to teach her some manners. If they want to drive away viewers, she'd be an excellent choice.
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)D*MN she was a b*tch, interrupting, being just rude, telling Bernie to "calm down", D*mn I wanted to just reach through the screen and punch her in the face. Ugh...
Triana
(22,666 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)What a nasty woman. She talked over Bernie every time he said anything. And she lied so much it was ridiculous. Why aren't they using a lie-o-meter to monitor that lipstick lizard?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)very hard to pull off convictions for campaign corruption. But hopefully it will happen eventually.
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)WTF is that??? an economic war on women....
Triana
(22,666 posts)He isn't. Quite the opposite in fact. First thing he did was sign the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay act. How is THAT an "economic war on women". It isn't.
This piranha just pulls shit out of thin air to keep talking over whoever disagrees with her.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)The previous few days they were experimenting with the Huckabee style points that laughably claimed that Republicans are the party of Women and Democrats wanted to make slaves out of them or some shit like that.. When that didn't turn out like they hoped they had to change it up a bit.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Or listen to it on the radio.
They don't use rules of order that make sure every voice has the same opportunity to speak and be heard. They allow the loudest, rudest voice to overpower others.
Wolf Blitzer should be ashamed.
Mira
(22,380 posts)madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)And dopey Wolfe says at the end "You both bring good arguments to the table." I think not, Wolfie.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)He nothing more than a Corporate toady. He doesn't have the balls to stand up to the obnoxious Repukians bitches that scream their lies like drunken banshees. I wonder just how long this obstructionism and out right propaganda can continue before something tips the balance.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Damn, that pissed me off. Stupid woman.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)that takes us back to 2007.
Clearly "economic war on women" is a new Republican catchphrase.
If they are gonna keep saying "where are the jobs?" though, then I need to do another update.
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)Bernie was kicking ass, but Bachmann was spewing so much bullshit without pausing. It was embarrassingly obvious that she wasn't coming for a discussion. She was coming to attack a straw!democrat and air RW talking points.
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)I see this happen all the time and it is nearly always a RWNJ who will not let their opponent express his/her views without interruption or harassment. This does not constitute a debate of issues.
Mira
(22,380 posts)she honest to God deserved to be slapped physically. Off her chair.
I am a peace loving person and do not get physical, but this was intolerable to watch.
This stupid, automaton, unfeeling, discourteous, respectless, wind up puppet, mush for brains sorry excuse for a woman needed to be stopped.
I did not like how Blitzer stayed out of it. Had something like this happened in front of me with me having the job he did, no way could she have been allowed such behavior without severe chastizement out of courtesy to the other guest and the viewers as well.
It's pretty easy to just start mouthing over people and keep it up and be louder and drown them out.
It's intolerable to the listener who is trying to see beyond the Kindergarten behavior and hear the other person who struggles for a right to be heard. It is the job of the interviewer to put a stop to wasted air time and the wasted time for all involved including the listeners.
I considered writing to NBC about it, but I'm so damn tired of having to protest the same old same old. I think these asshats sit in a room and practice interrupting, they keep getting better at it, and are allowed to keep it up.
end of rant
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)Mira
(22,380 posts)ranting about it.
And I love you - too. You are the photo contests best friend.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)I like what he says and how he says it. More air time for Bernie will bring the really important issues and solutions to the forefront.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Beearewhyain
(600 posts)he has no idea what it is to be a moderator. To allow one person in the conversation to continue to speak OVER the other was disgraceful. He allowed accusations to fly and did not allow for a response but just let the guano crazy lady blather on. And then at the end he has the temerity to say "you both bring good arguments to the table"!?
Woofy, take off the mic, turn in the "Beard of Gravitas" and return your keys. You do not deserve to call yourself a journalist.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)to a known psychopath.
She answered no questions, made no sense and blamed everything on Obama.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)ReasonableToo
(505 posts)I'm sad to say that the RW nuts will count it as a victory for them because she was successful in getting all her buzzwords and talking points in and repeat them.
She's flat-out wrong of course but they will count it as a victory for her.
This "economic war on women" nonsense will be the death of the D's come election time. sigh.
ananda
(28,866 posts)Bachmann , however, proved to be a rude bitch!
closeupready
(29,503 posts)This segment demonstrates clearly why Sanders is a Senator and Bachmann is not.
Lochloosa
(16,065 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)thought, you know they are afraid to hear the other person's points because they cannot counter them.
Had to turn it off halfway through, just based on the rudeness alone. It wouldn't matter if I agreed with her 100%, she was so rude...they are all so rude...I simply cannot listen.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)politician is out talk their competitor. All you could here Bernie say time and again is "excuse me" while she did all the talking. And when she wanted to make him shut-up she would rest her hand on his arm...and Bernie would just give up. Wolff didn't tell the witch to give Bernie a chance to explain himself, he just stood there looking like and aswipe.
I couldn't listen to the last two minutes because I couldn't take anymore of her B.S.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)no substance, just rudeness. This RW tactic of not letting other points to be voiced by constantly interrupting is getting to the point I was screaming to her to STFU! Go bernie, as POTUS or vice-POTUS and Dr. Warren in 2016. And he DID NOT lose his cool and showed more class than barfmann.
Swagman
(1,934 posts)what she is talking about. The reasons car companies may leave is not for teh reasons she stated.
ugly ugly ugly. And did I say she is an ugly person.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)But this is an example of a bad host. Blitzer should have told Bachmann to STFU and let Bernie make his point. The networks have decided it benefits ratings to have guests talk over one another and what you actually get is that no one can hear BOTH parties when they are talking.
Blitzer needed to get control and keep the conversation in check.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)This woman is the dumbest piece of shit walking the Earth.
lobodons
(1,290 posts)If that were to be me sitting where Sanders was, I would have backhanded Bachmann and slapped her rude ignorant lying self silly.
Kudo's to Sen. Sanders for keeping his cool with that evil vile women.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts). . . you know there's nothing behind them.
How can any one have a debate with such a person? All she can do is regurgitate talking points while ignoring facts and logic. How many times did she come back and argue for Reaganomics? If that had worked, there would have been no meltdown in 2008 and there would have be no serious unemployment today.
We have an unemployment problem because the so-called job creators refuse to create jobs. They have no incentive to create jobs. They can make money without creating wealth. They just gamble money on credit swaps and, if that doesn't work, go to the Fed and get more. The Fed just gives it to them at zero percent interest. That is the system that's broken.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)I think what Wolfie needs to actually conduct a DEBATE, instead of a shouting match where the most aggressive bully wins.
Have two clear soundproof glass booths, one for each guest. When one person is speaking, the other HAS THEIR MIC CUT OFF until the speaking person has made their point. Or at least cut somebody off when they start bullhorning.
Take turns, just like a real debate with real debating rules and order.
It would be nice if all of DU did a full Frank Luntz on the term BULLHORNING. It really does capsulize this unfair debating technique.
And my source was a FB thread on this very video. Credit where it's due.
-90% Jimmy
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Spewing word salad instead of answering questions, talking over Bernie Sanders, etc. etc. I wanted tothrow something at her, like a cannonball.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)He was civil and respectful and polite. Which Bachmann rudely failed to reciprocate.
If I was Bernie, my politically career would have ended when I hit that smarmy word salad beyatch in the mouth. Go out with style.
And my self control is pretty good, but not up there with Ghandi. Yet another reason to adore good ole' Bernie!
-90% Jimmy
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I swear, it was like she was DELIGHTED that he had exposed himself as a heretic to the Republican mantra of "cut cut cut cut cut dem taxes. In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Reagan. So it was, so shall it ever be; tax cuts without end. Amen."
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)When Wolf Blitzer decided to "fact check" Sen. Sanders on the impact of making large corporations and the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. Blitzer jumped in with his everybody knows line that "when you raise taxes on corporations they stop hiring". Taxes are way down the line when it comes to hiring decisions. Demand for goods and services is what drives hiring decisions -- always has been, always will be. (Yes, corporations tax shop when it comes to where to locate a facility by playing one location off against another location but that is a different matter altogether). So when Blitzer attempted to fact check Sanders with a lie it was more than I could stand.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)If I was Sanders, I would have directly told her to stop being so rude, and then if she insisted on continuing to interrupt every 5 seconds, I would have done the same thing, and talked over her every time she tried to talk. I would not have let her hold the floor like that.
TRoN33
(769 posts)I can tell you guys that Bachmann is one most delusional lawmaker ever seen. As of right now I'm a Vermonter and I am very proud of Sanders for who he is and what he stands for. If he lose his cool, he have a good reason for that.
bkanderson76
(266 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)have been expected to. If that were me I would probably have jumped out of my chair and started strangling that *****.
glowing
(12,233 posts)It sounds good to lay all the items she listed out... But the answer is blame Obama. There are no real solutions. I guess the undereducated base doesn't get that they are being swindled. They certainly don't understand macro-economics from their own micro-economic status.
They did at least get her to say no to min wage, finally.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Bernie was polite to a fault. He let her talk over him. I would have said, "SHUT UP, BITCH!" so many times.
Still, this screaming is out of control. Whispering may be the only solution.
valerief
(53,235 posts)while the village idiot looked on.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Guy has the patience of a Saint.
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Skittles
(153,169 posts)pull and a repuke talking point comes out; does't matter if it relates at all to the subject at hand
Mona
(135 posts)....and to call it a "good discussion" at the end of the interview just cements the fact that he's pretty useless in that role. No control, and so afraid of offending anyone, he can't keep his own interview in order. It was painful to watch.
Just keep on Wolf, you might be the last nail in the coffin yet for CNN: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/cnn-ratings-january-2014_n_4682699.html
As for Bernie, poor guy, AMAZING self-restraint!