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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUltra alpha male uber-masculine men annoy the hell out of me
T'sall.
Just venting.
Proles
(466 posts)Sparkly
(24,149 posts)Especially spoiled frat boys who buy fake ranches to pretend they're cowboys and strut around with tennis balls in their arm pits and palms facing backwards.
Those are the worst.
Initech
(100,087 posts)That goes for: Slim Jims, 1800 Tequila, Miller Lite, Axe Body Spray, Dr. Pepper, and like 100,000 others.
ProfessorGAC
(65,085 posts)The rest of those commercials, i agree are most despisable. Not sure how you're fitting 1800 tequila in that crowd, though.
GAC
Initech
(100,087 posts)"Whatever happened to men? Guys used to drink real tequila and talk about sports. Now they drink poser tequila and talk about what? Hair straightening? This is a commercial for tequila."
OR:
"Whatever happened to cocktails? Men used to drink real tequila. Now they drink these drink these drinks called Razzletinis. This drink is called tequila."
ProfessorGAC
(65,085 posts)Sorry, we must just read this differently. I don't see that as alpha male behavior.
GAC
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Either impotence or homophobia.
It's as simple as that.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I could never stand that type of guy. Never wanted to date them, ever. Yeech.
USArmyParatrooper
(1,827 posts)I can't help it. I was born this way.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)Texasgal
(17,045 posts)Wow!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Well-played.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Make hulk vaguely anxious and insecure.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)SharonAnn
(13,777 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)They are usually complete idiots. Arrogance personified.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Generally, I've found them.... OVER-emphasizing themselves to compensate for their inferiority complex.
However, it could be to make up for their tiny wee-wees...
UTUSN
(70,715 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)and I will do it without a crack about metrosexuals with waxed chests and polished nails...
Alphas come in any and all genders.
Not sure what you consider masculine or uber masculine. You might want to define it some.
provis99
(13,062 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)They annoy me also.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)...unless they're signing my paychecks. Then I just let it go. But yeah, they're annoying as hell.
Behind the Aegis
(53,962 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)It's the real life manifestations that bug me.
Mopar151
(9,990 posts)"The US Marines - Home of the PHONY TOUGH and the CRAZY BRAVE!"
I've been around motorsports most of my life. My Dad was a combat-disabled WW2 vet, and I know several VN vets of heavy combat as well.
Outsiders think motorsports must be full of Ultra-Ubers, but the thing is - phony tough and real, flame-hardened crazy brave are kind of exclusive of each other.
Witness this recent news release about current NASCAR champ Tony Stewart:
Stewart visits the Small Miracles Therapeutic Riding Center: #14-Tony Stewart displayed a different side of his personality Tuesday afternoon, decompressing for over two hours at the Small Miracles Therapeutic Riding Center in the rolling hills of Northeast Tennessee. Stewart not only chatted with a group of wide-eyed special needs children, he helped lead their horses around the barn. He also posed for family photos, signed autographs and shared personal stories. "This place is really close to my heart because I have a cousin who has a similar situation," Stewart said. "To see how programs like this help children, it's much bigger than what we're doing with racing." Stewart became so enamored with the young riders that he had to be pulled away at the last second to conduct a scheduled satellite interview with ESPN. "To see how these kids connect with their horses and ponies is pretty cool," Stewart said. "We over complicate our lives a lot of times. It's neat to be able to detach from all that and make life simpler for a couple hours." Bristol Herlad Courier and see images of the event here)
classof56
(5,376 posts)Nice read.
Mopar151
(9,990 posts)And what they're capable of ramming through and riding out, while scared shitless, half frozen, upside down and on fire. They could give a fuck whether some fool thinks they're tough or not. It makes 'em free their inner marshmallow when it's appropriate - 'specially for kids, puppies, and wittle bunny wabbits.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I've known a few people who most would consider "uber-masculine" who I consider quite broad minded. Is it too much to ask to judge people by their actions rather than their appearance and mannerisms?
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Broderick
(4,578 posts)And Robert Redford, George Clooney, Bruce Springsteen, Matt Damon, Samuel Jackson, Robert De Niro, Ben Affleck?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)what exactly is the issue?
i see we are broadbrushing all of who these men are in a bad way, but i am not sure what the specific allegations are.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)JFK was one. President Obama seems to be one. Someone upthread mentioned Clooney and Pitt, who seem to be quite decent guys.
And then there's this dude
who is relentlessly alpha, and who is still pretty damned awesome.
I'll cop to NOT being even vaguely an alpha male, but we're social animals, and social animals in groups will always evince some form of pack behavior. I don't condemn myself for being a slightly wimpy introvert, so I can't turn around and talk shit about a person who is naturally and unabashedly manly and leadership-oriented.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Two words for Henry: Glenn Danzig--you'll never be 'im.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And Rollins has also been heard from since the late 80s, so they've got that difference as well.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Granted, it was a great song, but how long can he coast on "Mother" and old cassette recordings of "We Are 138"?
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And I thank you for that.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)You give them both an audience and a microphone with no instruments and Rollins could keep the crowd entertained for hours while Danzig would stand there and wonder where his groupies went.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)I don't have an estimation of his "intelligence". I simply don't care to hear the rants of a shirtless man.
I like Glenn Danzig because the Misfits were the coolest skate band in the 1980s. I am not a "groupy" of his, nor have I ever been to one of his concerts.
Hope this clears things up!
EOTE
(13,409 posts)But when I hear Rollins get attacked and compared negatively to Danzig, I can't help but have some fun with the comparison.
I don't see how anyone could compare Rollins' spoken word to the rantings of a bully, though. From all of the spoken word that I've heard of his, he seems to hate bullies with a white hot passion. He goes out of his way to show his disdain for bullies, conservative ones in particular.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)edit: missed the "solo" part. I might have to agree with you on the solo part. Still, *I* ain't no GD SOB.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)I can't link to it because I'm at work, but last year Metallica got him on stage to sing the Misfits tunes they cover for Garage Days . . . Dear GOD, not only did Danzig let himself go to Pizza Hut, but his voice is pretty much all but shot at this point.
myrna minx
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I *love* this photo. I picture Danzig staying up all night reading LOLcats.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)You making it out to be regular ol' kitty litter does a great disservice to Danzig and his legion of fans.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Can you imagine Henry Rollins being able to poke fun at himself like this?
http://video.adultswim.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force/meatghost.html
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Far more blood soaked than the typical ATHF episode.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)It's almost a cartoon character. Thankfully my husband is more the class clown type. My ideal man is more Will Ferrell, Stephen Colbert, Steve Carell. Maybe I am weird?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I keep reading this tripe, but I never actually see anyone actually falling for guys like this. They may like to look at them, but date or marry them? No.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)joeglow3
(6,228 posts)I heard say this ALL THE TIME in college, and yet us nice guys never stood a chance...
Codeine
(25,586 posts)This never goes well.
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)Selatius
(20,441 posts)A woman would complain about the douchebags in her life and wonder where all the good men are. Then, some guy would reply that there are plenty of good men. It's just that they aren't her type.
Nice guys finish last does have some modicum of truth to it. Men don't have a monopoly on stupidity on this planet. Women can make just as many idiotic mistakes, and they've proven in my experience that they're just as willing as men to make them.
Scout
(8,624 posts)we could also say men still flock to pretty, shallow women, with big tits and blond hair, and leave the nice ones home alone.
The nice guy who claims he can't get a woman is doing exactly what he condemns. He's not looking for the "nice" girl, but the "hot" girl.
ThatsMyBarack
(7,641 posts)WAMPOS: White Alpha Male Piece of S---
Whisp
(24,096 posts)frogmarch
(12,156 posts)the guy - says he's a medical doctor, I think - who is in a workout machine commercial, bragging that he's in in better shape than his son...well, that guy irks me.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Although let's get some definitions here - would you consider Henry Rollins uber masculine? For me he's about as masculine as you can get without becoming a douche.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Like, Mitt Romney
FSogol
(45,493 posts)thanks for MST3K (From Space Mutiny)
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Codeine
(25,586 posts)There is (or was, anyway) a DUer who goes by Big McLargehuge. Always made me smile to see his posts.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)But for the most part the ones around here love to drive giant trucks that never see the dirt and are outfitted with halogen headlights that shine like small suns when they tailgate you for trying to maximize gas savings and be as much of a friend to the environment as you can be in your small car. Then they blaze past you hollering out the window as they burn up as much as the planet as they can in this short life.
The earth is their playground and anyone coming after them can go to hell as far as they are concerned.
Tabasco_Dave
(1,259 posts)I'm with you 100%. Notice how many nice women end up with guys like these, my mom included.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)jsmirman
(4,507 posts)I've thought about this a lot over the last few years, and it's what I settled on.
I have no desire to subjugate, this makes me feel that I'm not alpha.
I have a great desire to not have people mess with me, get in my face, or poke this bear. I am a "mess with the bull, you get the horns" kind of guy. I don't go looking for trouble, but many have found that I'm not the trouble you want to go looking for.
But what I really am about is change. I don't think I have any interest in this stupid alpha, beta, etc. crap.
I want to bring positive change to the world. I want something better.
So I think this makes me a Delta male.
Is H20 Man an alpha man? I think not. He is a fucking MAN.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)I'm under 5 feet and top 100# only on a fat day and while no wimp my body can only do so much. Thank God for chainsaw wielding, deer hunting, fireman, paratrooper types that are willing to do the grunt work.
If it wasn't for those guys, who would shovel out the waste water treatment plant when the pumps need replacing? We'd all be up to our whatsitz in human ick.
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)Like this guy:
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I just don't like mean people or dishonest people or bigoted people. Other then that, I am an equal opportunity liker/lover