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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 09:05 PM Jan 2014

Cancer quack Robert O. Young is arrested and arraigned, but will he be convicted?

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/01/27/cancer-quack-robert-o-young-is-arrested-and-arraigned-but-will-he-be-convicted/



Being a cancer surgeon and researcher, naturally I tend to write about cancer a lot more than other areas of medicine and science. It’s what I know best. Also, cancer is a very common area for unscientific practices to insinuate themselves, something that’s been true for a very long time. The ideas don’t change very rapidly, either. Drop a cancer quack from 2014 into 1979, and he would probably be right at home. Of course, part of the reason is because the “elder statesmen” of cancer quackery today were just getting their starts in 1979. Still, the same ideas keep recurring even as far back as a century ago and even older, and if you broaden your criteria, these ideas exist on a continuum, either having descended directly from various ancient ideas such as vitalism, miasmas, or humoral theory or branched off somewhere along the way. Others branch off from the progress of science, taking a germ of a seemingly reasonable idea and turning it into quackery. It is the latter with which I plan on concerning myself today, the reason being that over the weekend I heard some truly awesome news. One of the most egregiously practicing non-physicians who claim to be able to cure cancer that I’ve ever encountered was arrested—yes, arrested!—and arraigned on criminal charges. I’m referring to “Dr. Alkaline” himself, he of the pH Miracle Living program and his Articles of Health blog, “Dr.” Robert O. Young. Behold:

I so so love seeing Robert O. Young in a prison jumpsuit. My only disappointment is that it wasn’t orange. Young deserves to be paraded around in prison orange. I also can’t help but note that I always wondered what the “O.” stood for. Now I know: Oldham. Be that as it may, I’m saving that picture at the top of this post for future talks. This is the way that Robert O. Young should always be pictured.

I’ve mentioned Robert O. Young from time to time on this blog, but it’s been at least a couple of years since I’ve discussed him other than in passing. Consequently, now strikes me as an excellent time to revisit, review, and discuss what sorts of pseudoscience and quackery Young advocates to treat cancer and—as is the case with so many dubious practitioners—multiple other serious diseases, such as lupus, type I diabetes (you read that right, not type II diabetes), metastatic prostate cancer, and cancer in general. (Not surprisingly, Young is also quite antivaccine, publishing anecdotes from parents who believe their child is “vaccine damaged” and appeals to support antivaccine groups like the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC).) Let’s take a look at what happened last week and why, given the law in California, I’m not sure that this case will be the slam dunk we’d all like it to be. The law in California could easily make it a difficult task for the prosecutor to secure a conviction, much less a 15 year sentence. First, however, for those who are not familiar with Dr. Young, it’s important to provide a little primer on who he is, what he does, and why I am so outraged that he’s been allowed to continue to practice for more than 20 years.


Read much more of the long, sad story at link above. Orac nails it once again.

Sid


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mucifer

(23,550 posts)
1. I've seen families spend all their money on this crap and then they still end up
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 09:17 PM
Jan 2014

with me the hospice nurse coming to their home. I haven't seen it a lot, but it's so damn sad. Of course the insurance companies can bankrupt you too. But, so many cancers are treatable now.

There is a creepy guy like this in Texas making tons of money off kids with cancer. Makes me sick. Somehow he isn't in jail.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
4. The only cancer I have heard of that is very treatable is breast cancer as it is fast growing
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:38 PM
Jan 2014

Could you tell me more about the other ones? As far as I know, most cancers treated with radiation/chemo recur at some point. Also, many people are unable to take the treatments or die from it. I'm surprised that cancer is considered so "treatable" these days.

mucifer

(23,550 posts)
5. Long term survival rate in children is very high
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:54 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerinchildren/detailedguide/cancer-in-children-treating-survival-rates

http://blog.dana-farber.org/insight/2013/05/five-reasons-for-optimism-about-pediatric-cancer-care-and-research/

Yes there are long term effects. But, we have come a long way in getting better treatments.
Kids are stronger than adults with cancer. They usually don't have other organs failing. It's rare to see children with heart disease unless they were born with a genetic defect that caused it. Adults have lots of co morbidities.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
6. Kids with cancer are the bravest, toughest heros
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:06 PM
Jan 2014

I'm glad they're getting somewhere. I can't imagine the stress as a parent watching your child go through all of that pain.

The reason I asked is because we often believe that cancer treatment has improved, but in my research when I was dealing with it with my mother, there has been in fact very little improvement in many types of cancer. There have been more expensive drugs approved, but we are still working with the slash/burn/poison paradigm we've had for nearly a century. Some "treatments" have no better than a 25% life expectancies over five years (the measure for "cure" or "remission&quot . Some as low as 5%. Some no better than no treatment at all. Yet we still use that as the gold standard for dealing with cancer and all else is considered quackery. I don't consider those outcomes to be anything worth cheering about.

Because the industry is worth billions, and oncologists often make up to 75% of their total practice dispensing chemo, I doubt things will change any time soon. I hope someday, future generations will look upon our barbaric cancer treatments the way we now do surgery without anesthesia. And that cancer is no longer a death sentence.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Will the doctors and nurses hired at his clinic do time? Didn't they know better?
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 09:33 PM
Jan 2014
Could cause a shake up or be seen as an anomaly and forgotten. He'll be called a martyr who resisted 'WHO tryanny' on 'Patriot' sites.

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