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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh boy! I just called the cops on my neighbors.
I was watching a basketball game, and I thought I was hearing something else. I cut the volume down and then I knew I was hearing something that didn't sound good.
I wasn't sure so I went to the laundry room which has a wall adjoining their apartment. I could hear yelling, screaming and thuds. It didn't sound like somebody was playing. I went out to their front door and I could really hear whatever was happening.
I dialed 911 and told them what I knew. There is a 5th grader and an 8th grader who live there with their parents. I believe there is an older sister too. I told 911 that the scream sounded like a young person but that I didn't know who was actually in there. I hadn't heard a gun but I can't hear a knife.
The cops showed up after it seemed to have calmed down. They didn't open the door until the cop knocked three times. The man who they talked to said he just got there which is a lie because I was looking through my peephole. He might have come from behind the apartments though.
The man and a woman assured they had everything under control. It was some kind of problem with one of the kids. I don't know if the cop asked to see the kids, but gawd I hope he did.
When the cop was talking to them, he said that several neighbors called so I don't think it will come back on me. If it does, I'll handle it. I don't play when it comes to kids. At least they know people will call the cops.
I need a drink. This shite upsets me.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)People need to do that, but are often afraid to. The cops showing up often tones things down a few notches.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I'll do it again if I need to.
Thanks.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)
that if someone is hurting them--hitting or emotionally abusing them--that this is illegal and should not be happening.
Too many abused kids are told that the abuse is their fault. They are powerless and often bullied into believing that they are the problem.
When the cops are called, it clearly sends a message that--NO, it is the fault of the parent who is abusing.
The abuser can lie all they want. If it took three knocks for him to finally answer the door, he was probably intimidating the kids into shutting up. Abusers can play those games, but in the end--the child gets the message that this should not be happening to them.
Just that little glimmer in a child's mind could be what saves them from feeling like the worthless piece of shit that abusers want their victims to feel.
And don't ever doubt your intuition when it comes to these things. I came from an abusive household that was a house of horrors. There were NO signs. My abuser was very careful--such a fine upstanding citizen. So, if you SEE and HEAR signs--that's a clear indication that something is terribly wrong.
You're a hero, really. Too many people do nothing. Thank you for doing what you did.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)because even if nothing happens there will be a record of calls when something does
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I do. I've seen kids at school who I reported too.
As I said, I don't play if kids are involved. In fact, I don't ever play if I hear that kind of noise.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)years ago I was sleeping in my apartment in the afternoon (I'm a night worker) and I heard screams. I went a couple of doors down - the door was open and in the bedroom in the back I could see a woman sitting in a chair holding a baby.........I couldn't see anyone else.......I said, "Are you OK?" and she simply said, "Would you call the police?". There was someone back there with her; I guess it was a domestic dispute. I called 911 and the cops were there for some time. She never said anything to me about it; I think she was embarrassed. I don't care - if I think someone needs help I am calling, even if it is over and over and over. Like I said, at least a record of disputes at that residence is created. And that is one reason I will never call cops PIGS - they're the ones showing up to deal with that stuff and they never know what they are getting into.
elleng
(130,974 posts)it DOES take a village.
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)Seriously.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)even though there was a high likelihood of a child being beaten?
What, pray tell, do you think the OP should have done? Tried to handle it herself?
There's no way THAT could have ended badly.
1000words
(7,051 posts)It's none of my business. Just reminding folks that calling the police is a mixed bag ...
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)What would YOU have done?
JFC!
1000words
(7,051 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:16 PM - Edit history (1)
What's done is done, and as far as I can tell, everyone is safe. More and more, that is not the case when police are involved.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"There is no point in addressing hypotheticals."
Like shooting dogs... or worse?
Squinch
(50,955 posts)found yourself forced into. You did the right thing.
It IS so upsetting. Now be good to yourself. But keep an ear open because you now matter a lot in those kids' lives. They may never know you do, but you do.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)Put yourself in my place.
I would like to know what you suggest?
(Responding to post #27)
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I just edited it to add the number of the post I was responding to.
Sorry!
I really appreciate your help.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)Also the case of Richard Speck killing 8 nursing students by removing them from a room one by one. Back then girls were raised to be submissive - look what it got them. I vowed if I ever had a daughter, I'd teach her to KICK ass worse than anybody alive.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Kick, bite, scream, it's survival time. Give 'em what millions of years of evolution equipped you with, every inch of it.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)I feel that if my life's at risk - as it always is with the unwanted moving you mention - we'd might as well duke it out where I at least have a chance, however slim. My dogs sleep in the same room with me, too, so if any dangerous person has made overtures to them during the day when they're outside and I might not see, I'll absolutely know if anyone breaks in. Some people call that 'living in fear' but I simply prepare for the worst and then go about my merry way.
Of course it was simpler when I could have chows; but my last 2 little bears are buried 7 feet under in the back yard now. Their last few years were almost overwhelming for me - I had to do a lot of lifting to care for them - and I'm no spring chicken myself. So I figured it was time to switch to smaller dogs. If anybody had ever bred mini-chows, I would've walked over hot coals for them. At least my smooth-coat JRT is fearless and protective as she can be. I call her my little terrierist.
Lost_Count
(555 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)Listen to it and wring my hands or go to their door and try to mediate some domestic dispute?
I thought about the possibility of a bad response AFTER I called. I'll call again too.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)How would you have felt if you didn't call and something horrible happened.
You did a good thing. At the very least, it made whoever was doing the beating KNOW that he could be heard and would be stopped. Perhaps it will give them pause the next time.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)There are some here who think every cop is corrupt and bloodthirsty. The fact remains that there are hundreds of thousands of people in America calling the police daily who don't run into any major problem - they're not shot or dragged out of their house or have an animal killed. We just don't ever hear about those people because it's not as sordid as the news about cops being killers.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)too many won't, especially if they live in an apartment and are worried about seeing their neighbor in the hall.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)A neighbor once saved me from getting beat up way worse than I already had by my ex boyfriend. He trapped me in the bathroom and threw me in the tub and just started wailing on me because he thought I was too friendly to a customer at work. I couldn't get up and just started screaming help. The red head lady upstairs saved me by calling the cops. They didn't arrest him, just made him take a walk and took me to the hospital. It's alaska, that's how things go.
Oscarmonster13
(209 posts)that can rebound on the victims too...
"see, YOU made too much noise..." "Next time we'll tell the cops it was YOUR fault"
Next time they may be quieter when they beat someone. Next time they may gag them before abusing them...
I had an abusive ex, and the cops and neighbors never helped...it just made things worse when they were gone.
but thanks for being a concerned person, it's hard when you think nobody cares what happens to you. Sometimes knowing that someone hears or cares enough to call can be the push to get help or talk to someone...
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I know that can happen. I can't just let it go.
Now I am really upset and need 2 drinks. I did the best I could.
AAO
(3,300 posts)You did exactly what you should have done. You did the right thing. End of discussion.
Oscarmonster13
(209 posts)wasn't trying to upset you, just pointing out something that seemed obvious to me... peace
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)That would be very upsetting!
Once overheard a kid screaming and crying in what I knew was a closet in the downstairs apartment. (Because their layout is exactly the same as ours.) My hubby called the cops. They moved out a couple months later. I think about that little girl often.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)you'd always feel some guilt.
Now just put it out of your mind. Stuff happens.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)Now I'm more upset.
Gak!
murielm99
(30,745 posts)I hope you can steady yourself and have a better day.
It is good that you called.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)Unfortunately, I've been through this before and it's not fun.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I can understand what you're feeling. I lived across the street for awhile from an asshole who would routinely get drunk at the weekend and beat the shit out of his wife. It got to the point where I'd call 911 and say "They're at it again" and hold up the phone so the dispatcher could hear the shrieks, screams and yelling.
The guy would always duck out the back and go into the woods when the cops arrived, and stay away until they left. This went on forever, until I told them they needed to stop coming to the street with the frigging blue lights rotating because it gave him time to get away.
He was an obnoxious asshole, that neighbor. I too was not the only one who would call on him--glad I'm outta there!
Again, pat yourself on the back--good on you. You did the right thing.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)Attitudes have changed, thank God.
When I was in my twenties, in the 1970's, I lived in an apartment with thin walls. We, too, had a guy who beat his wife. I was the only one who ever called, and I think the guy knew it was me.
One night, I came home to an ambulance and several cop cars. The neighbors were all standing around outside. There were remarks like, "Well, did he finally kill her?" and "I wonder if she will live through this beating?"
When I asked the neighbors, especially some of the larger, younger men, why none of them had ever intervened, they said it was none of their business if a guy hit his wife. She probably had it coming.
That time, it was him, not her. He slipped and hit the back of his head, knocking himself out and ending up with a concussion.
I heard that she ran away while he was in the hospital. I hope she never came back. I don't know, though. We bought a house and moved away.
MADem
(135,425 posts)He bought the home of an elderly couple and modified it to run his business outta the home. He had undocumented workers sleeping in his basement and garage, he had an attack dog in the back, there were trucks coming and going at all hours (heavy equipment, on a quiet cul-de-sac) and he was a total shit. No one on the street liked him, he destroyed the bucolic character of the neighborhood. I think many people called just to stick it to the guy, because he was such a jerk in his daily life. I'd be sitting in my 2nd floor office with a view of the road, and because this jerk didn't close the curtains, I had a bird's eye view of the turd beating on that woman. There was a language issue, so I would warn the police to bring a translator or have one available by telephone. It took probably three or four visits before the guy was hauled off to the pokey; even then I think he got away with a diversion program. I think he dumped the wife/girlfriend off at one of his other properties--he had quite a few of these worker hellholes around the area, so I was given to understand.
Eh, ya do what ya can.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)My Grandmother was from Ireland and she told me about an incident that happen in her parish. The same old story, but this guy would get drunk and beat up his wife. This happened several times and the parish priest warn him to stop. He got drunk again as usual and beat her up. The parish priest was notified and I suppose he had had enough. According to granny he was big bruiser of a man and had won several boxing matches before entering the seminary. He paid the guy and visit and beat the double hell out of him. He told him that if he ever laid another hand on his wife this would be a love tap in comparison to what he could expect the next time. He gave up drinking and started attending church on a regular basis. I guess it could be considered a forced conversion of sorts, but none the less he saw the light. I wanted to add that he also beat the children In his drunken rages.
MADem
(135,425 posts)The priest of your grandmama's acquaintance may well have been raised in similar fashion, so he was coming at the guy based on experience....and he had the fists of the boxer as well as the Hammer of Religion to beat that guy into shape.
I suppose Freud or one of those shrinks would say that there was transference in that the priest became the "father figure" to the bullying beater and the walloping he got solidified the relationship...!
I'm with you, I don't condone violence as a rule, but as a last resort, whatever it takes to get a bully to stop beating on innocents will usually work for me. I also don't spend too much time crying when a beater gets comeuppance. As ya sow, so shall ya reap, and all that. That guy learned the "Don't be a meanie and no one will want to kick the crap out of ya!" lesson, and good that he did.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)My dad not only believed in protecting the weak and innocent, he also told the boys that if he ever heard of them NOT being proactive enough when they should, then he'd beat the crap out of them. Either that or he would've made them wish they were dead, because he didn't mess around and people knew it.
Ah, the Irish... gotta love 'em, don'tcha?
avebury
(10,952 posts)girl who practically moved into our house. She was around just about 24 hours a day. I went out of town for a few days and it was not until one of the neighbors saw me outside that I found out the girl actually had a young child (under the age of 2). My roommate worked out of state and I was the one who kept an eye on what was going on. Apparently, when I left town, the girl brought the child over to the house. My reaction? Who the heck has been taking care of this child all the days her mom was at my house? I also found out that the Mom had a pending legal case relating to drugs. I called DHS and gave them the information and asked them to check on the welfare of the child to make sure that there was someone taking proper care of her. I later heard that DHS took the child away from the mother. I didn't know who was taking care of the child but it was most certainly not her mother.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)When it comes to kids, there's no hesitation. Been there, done that, have yet to regret it.
There is no excuse for pounding on a child. None.
Mira
(22,380 posts)It's our job. It takes a village of open eyes and ears.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)You took a stand and did the right thing. You may have saved someone from serious pain or injury. I wish more people would be as courageous as you. You are a hero.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)it's possible that two of the four children survived because of that call, according to the Washington Post.
The neighbor reported seeing a knife, blood and an open car door.
The previous night, the police were called by another neighbor who saw an unattended child in a car, but by the time police got there, the child was back in the house, and the residents would not respond to the police knocking. Police had no probably cause to enter at that time.
You never know what might happen if you call, but it's possible that you could be saving a life.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Once, I called 911 for what I thought was a domestic disturbance, same thing, screaming and thumping noises going on. It was during the day and I had taken a sick day from work, so I wasn't supposed to be home. It turns out it was a home invasion. My neighbor, a woman, had come home early from work and interrupted a burglary. What I heard was the perps beating her up. The cops came quickly and was able to arrest them and rescue her before they beat her to a pulp. So you never know.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)but in this day and age,cops are supposed to respond to demestic violence by separating the couple, at a minimum.
then again, the way police have regressed these days...
Keep calling if need be.....and keep track of when you call and how long the cops took to show up and what they did.
a journal.( get badge numbers and names if you can)
because one of these days if the inevitable happens, and the ass covering starts, you will have something to share with the victim's family, and their lawyer.
the one salient fact I have learned from years and years of Mental Health work...document document document.
Who, what, where, when and how often. times and dates.
remember, if there is domestic violence, even if the kids are not physically attacked, they have a strong chance of growing up to be abusers or victims of abuse.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I know I won't remember all the details that ill help if they are needed.
Gawd I hope they aren't needed.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I don;t want to go into details, but when I was 17 and lived in rural upstate NY, a neighbor called the police because something 'wasn't right' when I answered the phone (she had, by strange chance, called) in my house. Our phone had been turned off for making outgoing calls, I learned this as before she called, I tried to call 911.
It turns out that neighbor calling the police probably saved my life as well as my mothers.
Thank you for doing what you did.
and
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)And you may have saved some kid's life.
riqster
(13,986 posts)The worst-case scenario is, some of the kids got a little crazy playing, and their parent say "see? I told you to keep it down!"
Best-case scenario is, you saved a life.
Good on you!
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Ignore the naysayers on this thread. Some people just live to stir shit.
AAO
(3,300 posts)There are way too many of those type on DU.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Good on ya!
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)I had a strange case on a military base where the next-door neighbor lady mistook my Persian cat's wails for a baby's crying. I was doing some decorating that the cat interfered with, so I shut her up in another room and she editorialized at the top of her lungs.
When the MPs arrived, luckily they thought it was funny as hell when I led them to the cause of the disturbance. The neighbor lady never stopped apologizing, but I kept telling her she did the right thing because it could've been a person in trouble - even me!
Luckily she never heard our 1/4 bobcat screaming at the top of his lungs when we lived out in the boonies. That would send a chill up anyone's back, although I don't think he could be mistaken for a human. It was a wild shriek that no domestic cat I know of makes.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)similar. Often I go running to the door when my cat is outside and it turns out it's the neighbor's toddler having some gleefully yelling time.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)than sorry.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)every time she sees me because she is so grateful that I called the cops one night when her boyfriend broke her door down and was beating the shit out of her.
Even if you never know what was happening, or your neighbor never knows who called, it was the right thing to do. And they appreciate it that someone cared.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)Lasted less than 5 minutes.. Everyone calmed down, we solved the issue and the cops showed up. They did ask to see our son and he came out nonchalantly and said "what's up?" All was well. Don't know who called, but I didn't have a problem with it.
But far too often, a call to the police brings more trouble, even death and destruction. I honestly would hesitate to call the police unless I felt I had no other option, but wouldn't second guess anyone who did.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)when you just have to do the right thing, and you did.
Have the drink, relax, and know if it happens again you'll do the right thing again and it will work out OK.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I made a similar call 20+ years ago. I heard noises in the next door apartment.
I called 911 I think
or maybe the police department, don't remember now. The woman I talked to told me to go knock on the door and ask if everything was alright.
??????
I begged her to send a cop car but she wouldn't. So
that was that. I didn't know what to do. I didn't hear any more bad things after that, and they moved away not long after.
about 15+ years ago, I called the cops to come because there was some very strange stuff happening in front of the townhouse across the way. They asked my address and name; I didn't want to tell them because I didn't want them coming to the door and making it obvious who called the cops. We went back and forth a bit, they promised not to come to the door but they wouldn't send anyone if I didn't give them my name and address.
So I did. Sure enough, the first thing they did was come to my door.
Turns out the house had been turned into a crack house. Cops came by to all the doors next day, telling us to call immediately if we saw any activity again.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Glad you are safe, but pointing you out obviously as the people who called the cops on drug activity is mind-numbingly stupid.
niyad
(113,363 posts)and see if everything was okay?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)niyad
(113,363 posts)I wonder how many others callers in other situations got blown off like that.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I was stunned
.only 21 years old, away from home (and crazy abuse, overprotection, etc. etc.---well, it all continued but
anyway, back to the point) for the first time, in grad school, had just had my second massive surgery that summer
.I was a helpless quivering mass myself
I was a wreck.
I was just stunned----argued and pleaded
.it ws insane. I guess at that time, there was no protocol for dealing with domestic violence.
flvegan
(64,409 posts)You did the right thing, all things considered.
Though...I did read here on DU that all cops suck and can't be trusted.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)I thank you from the bottom of my heart for making that call. Children have no recourse and sometimes a call can mean life or death. I know some people can't comprehend but when your being batted around like a ball in a pinball machine, staying alive is the only thing on your mind.
Thank You
-p
PS.. I'm treating my PTSD with meds and a regular doctor visits, but it will be forever with me. I don't wish it on anyone and I absolutely have no tolerance for child abuse. I would have probably knocked on the door in my own foolishness so I'm glad cooler heads prevailed.
LordshipLadyship
(405 posts)I have an alphabet soup of diagnoses due to child abuse. From around age 9 all the way up to my forties. A doctor told my hubby I matured intellectually but not emotionally. Emotionally and psychologically I stayed about 9 years old. People think abuse is only physical it isn't. When I see people yell at children I start to abreact and my husband (the Lordship in my name) stops it and brings me back to present day. People also think ptss only happens in war. No. When any awful situation happens to people of any age, their brain changes. It physically changes. Its unfortunate it carries a stigma when mental illness in some cases saves us from truly going insane.
You and anyone else calling when people need help is admirable. If someone had called for police when I'd needed it, I might have not been mentally ill, but perhaps I wouldn't have the empathy and understanding I do for others.
I'm against all forms of abuse, but when my husband tries to do something when he feels the most ill, (we both have fibromyalgia and arthritis) I do consider the frying pan as a cure
Listen to Patrick Stewart :
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)except most of the trauma occurred as a result of seeing my parents go at each other.
Food would fly around the kitchen. Dishes. Yelling. Name calling. Accusations.
Seeing my parents battle each other physically...seeing the finger marks on my mom's neck where my father had tried to choke her.
Seeing my mom's face swollen on one side from a broken jaw after he hit her with a beer bottle.
As a child, I was powerless to stop it, and I was left with a terrible dilemma each day
I went to school so I wouldn't have to listen to/see that going on (even though I was tired from not being able to sleep the night before during one of their fights), but always wondered if I would go home to find two dead bodies.
I guess in some ways it was like living in a war zone. Or so I've been told.
Children always suffer the worst
I wish someone had called the cops then
PS...this song always makes me cry...
niyad
(113,363 posts)thank you for sharing that from sir patrick--a truly wonderful human being.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)He's one of my most favorite actors because of his real personality.
At 16 my stepfather grabbed me by the throat and that was that. I blacked out only for a moment and awoke on top of him ready to beat the life out of him but I stopped and walked away. The physical abuse stopped but the mouth went into overtime. Thank you Military for turning a dumb fucking monkey into a violent dumb fucking ape.
I have a host of issues too but at 13 I was circling the drain bad. I would abuse myself (like oh...trying to break the headboard of my bed with my head as one example) and I was dizzy all the time especially when my parents would talk. Reality was absent in our household.
Fortunately my next door neighbor happened upon some home grown and it was the first time I found clarity and a coping mechanism. I got much better after I moved out of the house. Mostly I deal with my hyper vigilance now, a gift is what my therapist called it, HA!
I'm glad you survived it, some kids don't get that lucky.
Take care my friend and I hope to see more of you around here.
-p
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)What happened?
-p
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)oh, in a nutshell... only child of a mother who was a textbook Borderline Personality Disorder..the violent, raging for no reason, no boundaries, no privacy, enmeshed, controlling kind. I was mortally terrified of her before I was out of diapers. I've got a partial memory of something.
Dad was in total denial, gone on business, rarely home. Extreme pressure to perform academically. But I have ADD, so that added to the abuse.
Very isolated. Bullying from kindergarten on. Chronic Ulcerative Colitis age 7 -- emergency total collectomy (Ileostomy bag) at age 19--with no warning!! Waking up to that was a hell of a surprise. A lot of horrible medical experiences. Humiliating bowel symptoms, verbal attacks from strangers in public restrooms, too sick to engage in most activities, but never allowed to talk about it........and a lonnnnng history of falling in "love" (desperate emotional dependence and craving for affection) with incredibly damaged people. Full blown psychotic, several severe alcoholics, an actual psychopath, a Narcissistic Personality Disorder, a Borderline Personality Disorder.........
fun times, fun times.
just relentless trauma and no way out, no nurturing, no support anywhere, basically.
Finally I've found a terrific therapist, but I've had a few breakdowns over the years-- precipitated by relationship breakups. I'm single now and working on re-parenting and self-care/self-discipline skills.
There are many helpful books; I've been trying to manage the PTSD for ages, and learn basics that I was never taught (everything was done for me).... the one I'm getting a lot out of right now is called "Growing Up Again". I recommend it.
What about you?
Phlem
(6,323 posts)It sounds similar to me except your's started earlier and I didn't have physical ailments on top of that! I can feel it through your writing. My mother was fresh out of the jungle in the Philippines and had no idea of anything and when she married my stepfather all hell broke loose, and yes we do remember back to then, I wish they were good memories, but I guess trauma literally burns it in..
The bullying happened at home 24/7 so when I got to school I was ready and full of anger. I beat up a lot of assholes in my time but was never the less concerned about how far I might go so I would, at times, hold back.
But yea, no nurturing, no affection, always hiding, yadda yadda yadda, you know.
I kind of did self parenting on my own cause I learned early on that no one was going to take care of me except myself. Talked to the man high above every night and sometimes during the day. And just to let you know I'm spiritual, not religious. Still, sometimes some uncanny weird shit happened usually for the better but none the less, I'd still fuck it up somehow.
" I'm single now and working on re-parenting and self-care/self-discipline skills." exactly what I went and still am going through because like you said, some things we were never taught. My therapist was great fortunately, but this "gift" of "hyper vigilance" is a weird one for me to digest.
Sounds like I'm the lucky one in this scenario because I'm still in my first marriage even @ 48. We fight of course but she is dedicated to me and I to her. When we had our little girl my life changed for the better. I could see what I never got when I'm with her. I've made it my point to giver all of me as father, not like waiting on her hand and foot, but guiding her through life and keeping her as happy a little girl as I can. I think, maybe as other parents do, that no matter how much they grow up, they are always your baby.
But it is an example of my therapy because before that, we argued like cats and dogs (she is a first born too) and were on the verge of a divorce. We went to couples counseling and that's when the therapist diagnosed my PTSD.
After much work we're all in a happy place now, knock on wood.
Stick with your therapy please, you too can have a happy ending. I personally know it can happen.
If you ever need to talk, I hang out around these parts daily.
Take care friend and thanks for sharing, I know it can be tough sometimes.
-p
LWolf
(46,179 posts)It can be hard to catch abuse, and it often takes a long time to get hold of enough evidence to do something about it.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)i used to hear the little girl screaming "no daddy no". i don't know if social services followed up. they moved shortly afterward.
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)You did the right thing.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)I used to work for a foster care agency. I am forbidden by law to tell you the hair-curling stories I picked up, and you don't want to know them anyhow because they would keep you up at night. People do some harrowing, unbelievable, obscure imported horror film level shit to children.
Just know that a whole lot of kids wait entirely too long in misery because nobody wants to get involved. Decent people step in, and sometimes stepping in saves lives.
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)The wife and kids were being abused by the husband. It was a horrible situation and so heartbreaking. There was one time I heard a body hit a wall above all the screaming, and these weren't apartments. I called the police more than once, but always worried if that call would make it worse.
PDJane
(10,103 posts)I've also called children's aid on a man who lived down the street. He was sexually abusing his daughter, and children's workers were trying to catch him, but he kept moving....just a step ahead of the authorities. That child still gives me nightmares. Maybe a drink would help me, too. Gods..........
Beacool
(30,250 posts)A few years ago a friend I know in PA heard a fight in the neighboring house. She heard the woman scream, but never called 911 (she was afraid that they would know that she was the one who called). Well, she should have called, the man killed his wife. She's still remorseful that she never made that call.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)pnwest
(3,266 posts)caledesi
(11,903 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Other people, not so much a fan of ever calling the police.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024375944
Packerowner740
(676 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)You did the right thing.
Mother Of Four
(1,716 posts)is for the good to stand by and do nothing.
You didn't stand by, you acted.
I started typing a little of my own history, and I find I still can't share much of it. Suffice it to say the younger me is saying thank you, and the older me is wanting to hug you until you can't breathe. A thousand times, thank you for picking up that phone.
nikto
(3,284 posts)a Republican family to me.
RVN VET
(492 posts)A lot of them are just, well, Neandertals.
nikto
(3,284 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)draws a line in the sand IMHO. Something out of the ordinary and potentially dangerous is occurring and should be reported. You definitely did the right thing, Grits! Good for you.
niyad
(113,363 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)when I was small. Good for you, I applaud you, friend to children.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)I notice the resident Cop Haters are curiously silent, and absent.
hue
(4,949 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)Screaming, yelling and thuds can mean a bad thing, but they may not. A 5th grader and an 8th grader fighting can make a hell of a racket.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)a man was yellling and hitting a woman, who was crying. i got the apartment number and called the cops. i wonder what happened to her, because it sounded like he was trying to kill her. awful.