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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswhy are we paying such HIGH gas prices, you ask?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/speakerpelosi/with/5714066256/
OBAMA:
... at a time when big oil companies are making more money than ever before, were still giving them $4 billion of your tax dollars in subsidies every year. Your member of Congress should be fighting for you. Not for big financial firms. Not for big oil companies.
In the next few weeks, I expect Congress to vote on ending these subsidies. And when they do, were going to put every single Member of Congress on record: They can either stand up for oil companies, or they can stand up for the American people. They can either place their bets on a fossil fuel from the last century, or they can place their bets on Americas future. So make your voice heard. Send your representative an email. Give them a call. Tell them to stand with you.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/03/17/weekly-address-ending-subsidies-big-oil-companies
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)Maybe I can figure out how to post it on Facebook.
kpete
(71,997 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)Face The Nation today was all about blaming Obama for high gas prices. The are continuing with the flawed rhetoric that the President wants high gas prices. In an election year?
renate
(13,776 posts)But I think that wasn't an unreasonable assumption, given his and especially Cheney's connections to the industry. It made a certain amount of sense to at least consider the possibility that they were deliberately failing to do something about it (not that I could have guessed what) to make their oil friends happy.
In this case, there's just no logic behind it at all, not even paranoid logic.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)That does give credence to the belief many had to their enabling of the higher prices. Add the miraculous drop in prices at the pump near elections. It was easy sell.
To date I have not seen anything tying Obama to oil companies.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 18, 2012, 02:30 PM - Edit history (1)
Nationalize Energy Now!
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)Clearly we're producing record amounts of domestic oil, and since demand is down because of the slow economy and... No, wait a second....
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)progressoid
(49,992 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)4 BILLION of OUR TAX DOLLARS in order to get support for this and have EVERYBODY flooding their Representatives with calls, emails and faxes.
Seeing the visual makes so much more of an impact than just hearing the figures.
And nobody is going to go to the WH site except us! This message needs to get out there to all those who aren't really paying attention.
So take care of that, would ya kpete?
LiberalFighter
(50,980 posts)of all oil executives for the past 10 or 20 years.
on point
(2,506 posts)Now I don't all the figures, for all the companies, or how they might haved cooked the books, BUT these numbers by size mean NOTHING without a sense of their profitability.
A quick search on Exxon shows they have 10.68 % return on assets, which I am sorry to say is not extreme.
For instance if they invested 1 Trillion and had a 5% return their profit would be $50 billion. A big number maybe, but not really given the investment size. In fact it would be a mediocre return.
S please think about making the numbers real and in perspective before getting bent out of shape. It is a disservice to rational thought.
just1voice
(1,362 posts)They should be arrested, tried and convicted then jailed for their conspiracies to manipulate energy prices and the U.S. government should be leading the charge to arrest them.
That's plain and simple, completely rational.
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)Calculate what 90 million barrels would cost, and then figure that that is what the world uses every day. The vast majority of that oil is owned and controlled by governments and national interests - even "Big Oil" is pretty small when you compare it to Gazprom, Petrobas, Aramco, PEMEX, etc...
gulliver
(13,186 posts)Put the blame where it lies. People are getting more sophisticated now, and it is getting harder and harder to fool them. The Internet is doing its job.
I'm glad Obama isn't forgetting the Republicans. Whose side are they on? It is mighty fishy that they haven't breathed a word of criticism against oil companies and speculators. Mighty fishy.
just1voice
(1,362 posts)Still, who is then responsible for regulating and enforcing regulations? The Obama admin is.
http://www.heatingoil.com/blog/cftc-commissioner-chilton-takes-support-for-position-limits-public0315/
FogerRox
(13,211 posts)Articulating cogent policy to make nukes, coal and oil obsolete as soon as possible is vital.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Which is something the Repigs forced us to continue despite Jimmy Carter's warnings 30+ years ago.
In addition to their defense of oil companies and speculators.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Go figure? Who'd a thunk if? What genius?
I'm sure I don't need the sarcasm icon.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)In roughly another month we should have 1qtr 2012 available so it will be handy to compare the two. My guess is that profits will be up sharply for 2012 over 2011. I would propose that the Senate stall a vote on oil subsidies until after the earnings reports are released by big oil.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)This winter was so mild that heating oil usage in the northeast will be down substantially, cutting into profits based on the sharply lower usage. This should have impacted 4th qtr 2011 as well and profits were still high for that period.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)...80% of the world's oil is nationalized, and controlled by governments, not corporations. They don't control the prices, but hey do reap the benefits of a tight world market.
I'd say the president is on the right track as far as limiting tax breaks, and in the long-term asking for a bigger percentage of the profits of oil leases would be a good idea.