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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 07:13 PM Jan 2014

We Vanquish Terrorism When We Refuse to Be Terrorised

We Vanquish Terrorism When We Tap Into the Huge Reserve of Courage Within Each One of Us, and Refuse To Be Terrorized

Northwestern professor Peter Ludlow writes in the New York Times:

Philosophers have long noted the utility of fear to the state. Machiavelli notoriously argued that a good leader should induce fear in the populace in order to control the rabble.

Hobbes in “The Leviathan” argued that fear effectively motivates the creation of a social contract in which citizens cede their freedoms to the sovereign. The people understandably want to be safe from harm. The ruler imposes security and order in exchange for the surrender of certain public freedoms. As Hobbes saw it, there was no other way: Humans, left without a strong sovereign leader controlling their actions, would degenerate into mob rule. It is the fear of this state of nature — not of the sovereign per se, but of a world without the order the sovereign can impose — that leads us to form the social contract and surrender at least part of our freedom.

In addition to Machiavelli and Hobbes, University of Chicago professor Leo Strauss and German philosopher Carl Schmitt espoused the same views:

Leo Strauss is the father of the Neo-Conservative movement, including many leaders of recent American administrations. Indeed, many of the main neocon players – including Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Stephen Cambone, Elliot Abrams, and Adam Shulsky – were students of Strauss at the University of Chicago, where he taught for many years.

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What did Strauss teach?

Strauss, born in Germany, was an admirer of Nazi philosophers such as Carl Schmitt and of Machiavelli (more on Schmitt later).

Strauss believed that a stable political order required an external threat and that if an external threat did not exist, one should be manufactured. Specifically, Strauss thought that:

A political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat . . . . Following Machiavelli, he maintained that if no external threat exists then one has to be manufactured.


(the quote is by one of Strauss’ main biographers).

Indeed, Stauss used the analogy of Gulliver’s Travels to show what a Neocon-run society would look like:

“When Lilliput [the town] was on fire, Gulliver urinated over the city, including the palace. In so doing, he saved all of Lilliput from catastrophe, but the Lilliputians were outraged and appalled by such a show of disrespect.” (this quote also from the same biographer)


Moreover, Strauss said:

Only a great fool would call the new political science diabolic . . . Nevertheless one may say of it that it fiddles while Rome burns. It is excused by two facts: it does not know that it fiddles, and it does not know that Rome burns.


So Strauss seems to have advocated governments letting terrorizing catastrophes happen on one’s own soil to one’s own people — of “pissing” on one’s own people, to use his Gulliver’s travel analogy. And he advocated that government’s should pretend that they did not know about such acts of mayhem: to intentionally “not know” that Rome is burning. He advocated messing with one’s own people in order to save them from some artificial “catastrophe”. In other words, he proposed using deceit in order to demonize an adversary and artificially turn him into a dangerous enemy.

More at:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2014/01/if-you-are-scared-the-terrorists-win-if-you-refuse-to-be-scared-they-lose/
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We Vanquish Terrorism When We Refuse to Be Terrorised (Original Post) KoKo Jan 2014 OP
Sounds familiar. A little too familiar. RC Jan 2014 #1
In DU Early days folks used to post alot about Strauss and Chicago School... KoKo Jan 2014 #2
This is where I learned about Strauss G_j Jan 2014 #4
Kick...maybe many DU'ers see this as "old news" and it is to US...but.. KoKo Jan 2014 #3

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. In DU Early days folks used to post alot about Strauss and Chicago School...
Reply to RC (Reply #1)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jan 2014

Not so much anymore.

Seems to have gone down with discussions of HOW and WHY we got into Iraq after "9/11."

But, it was posted on a Financial Blog and CURRENTLY DUG UP....so thought there might be some interest here.

But...sadly...most of those interested have "moved on to other things" for whatever reason..

So..."It is What It Is" when one digs into HISTORY here on DU these days....

I think it's Malaise from INACTION...after so much WORK and the "Hope and Change" that didn't seem forthcoming no matter what.

But...doesn't mean it won't ever come... Just that its a "slow time."

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. Kick...maybe many DU'ers see this as "old news" and it is to US...but..
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:54 PM
Jan 2014

others might find it a weekend or "offtime" read that is interesting to them. So...I have to give the post a Kick for that hope.

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