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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 04:48 PM Jan 2014

The voters who make Republicans possible

In national polling versus Hillary Christie has tanked. The drop-off came almost entirely from Independents.

In New Jersey state polling Christie has tanked. The drop-off came almost entirely from Democrats.

I would suggest that outside the dead-red arc (that connects idaho to south carolina) a Republican can only win by convincing people that he or she is "pretty much a democrat"... somehow not one of those republicans.


And this is why the loss of Chris Christie really hurts Republicans.

The only way they can get someone who can at least be *presented as* sane (McCain, Romney and Christie are in that category) through the primary process is to have someone who is a known quantity.

There is no way to develop a (supposedly) sane Republican in the primary process.


Fox News backs Christie for a reason. He offered their best chance of winning. He was the "money" candidate... the vehicle for big business who wants a winner.

And it is not obvious who the next "sane" Republican is. Probably Jeb Bush, but contrast Jeb Bush to Chris Christie (pre-scandal)... it is a huge drop-off in following, enthusiasm, trust, freshness, charisma, star-power, media luv.

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The voters who make Republicans possible (Original Post) cthulu2016 Jan 2014 OP
Beware. Christie is not dead yet. ... spin Jan 2014 #1
Iowa would brutally punish Christie. That Jersey Bully Boy shit doesn't fly 100 miles outside the Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #2
Time will tell but I'n not putting any money on Christie at this time. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #3
The next "sane" Republican is HRC. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #4
Shots Fired. Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #5

spin

(17,493 posts)
1. Beware. Christie is not dead yet. ...
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jan 2014

I would be willing to bet that the investigations into his administration will eventually reveal that he misused his office and indeed is a bully. Politics in New Jersey is a dirty business.

However if the investigations do not come up with something concrete, Christy will emerge relatively unscathed. That doesn't mean that he will win the Republican primaries as many Republicans consider Christie to be far too liberal.

Sure, the rumors of scandal will haunt him especially if he gets the chance to run for President in the general election. Hillary also has some baggage. (Of course that assumes that Hillary is the Democratic candidate which does seem most likely at this time.)

The state of the economy and the success of the ACA will probably be the prime factors in the next Presidential election.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
2. Iowa would brutally punish Christie. That Jersey Bully Boy shit doesn't fly 100 miles outside the
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jan 2014

Jersey state line.

Even *if* he survives politically in New Jersey, he's now known as both a bully and an incompetent boob who doesn't even know what his own staff is doing.

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