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Archae

(46,340 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:28 PM Jan 2014

Ken Burns making documentary series on Country Music...



Ken Burns Making Documentary on Country Music

PASADENA, Calif. January 20, 2014 (AP)

Associated Press

PBS documentary maker Ken Burns is examining the roots of country music and how it has changed through the present day for a multi-episode series on public broadcasting.

Country fans have a wait ahead of them, though. PBS said Monday that Burns' country music project isn't set to air until 2018.

The noted documentarian has several other projects in the works for PBS, including one on the Gettysburg Address that will air this spring, and films on the Roosevelts, Jackie Robinson and Vietnam.

The country series explores the question, "what is country music." It will track the careers of the Carter family, Jimmie Rodgers, Bob Wills, Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson and others.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/ken-burns-making-documentary-country-music-21601867
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Ken Burns making documentary series on Country Music... (Original Post) Archae Jan 2014 OP
No need to go passed the early 80s, Ken. 1000words Jan 2014 #1
Some of the older, better singers and groups are still around. Archae Jan 2014 #2
the last period in country music worth a damn was the 70s texas "outlaw" arely staircase Jan 2014 #3
Agree ... 1000words Jan 2014 #4
correct - there is some good stuff on the fringes even now. arely staircase Jan 2014 #7
Those Poor Bastards OriginalGeek Jan 2014 #22
but then we would miss most of Keith Whitley's solo career. nm Morning Dew Jan 2014 #5
Yes, though he should probably explore why popular Country music started sucking in the 80's. tridim Jan 2014 #6
yeah, no kidding arely staircase Jan 2014 #10
$$$$$$ Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #24
Garth Brooks killed Country music 1000words Jan 2014 #11
Oh no. Initech Jan 2014 #13
My thoughts were also along this line. Country music ended a while ago, replaced by something ... Scuba Jan 2014 #33
If it starts with the Carter Family it more or less defines the commencment date. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #8
Bascom Lunsford Go Vols Jan 2014 #9
You missed out Lamar dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #25
Forty years ago in C&W music ... lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #12
My mother loves Bobby Bare... rppper Jan 2014 #17
Hopefully focuses on good alt-country DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #14
Be on the lookout for an anthology going on sale MrScorpio Jan 2014 #15
If you don't include Patsy Cline among country greats, Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #16
I may not be the biggest "country music" fan ... but I LOVE Ken Burns etherealtruth Jan 2014 #18
Ken Burns needs to do a series about the labor movement. Brigid Jan 2014 #19
^^^^This is a great idea^^^^ one of the names from American History I always remember Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #21
+1,000 Scuba Jan 2014 #35
Ken Burns making a documentary on tin-type photography Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #20
so PBS is going to start having these again ? JI7 Jan 2014 #23
That should be interesting. kentuck Jan 2014 #26
What a great mini-history. Thanks. n/t Little_Wing Jan 2014 #27
I was born and raised about 14 miles from Cumberland Gap. kentuck Jan 2014 #31
kentuck, thanks for that n/t lordsummerisle Jan 2014 #28
Don't forget Ferlin Husky. Scuba Jan 2014 #36
Some country/Bluegrass is really good! rdharma Jan 2014 #29
Good version. kentuck Jan 2014 #32
Redneck Woman - GREAT COUNTRY MUSIC! rdharma Jan 2014 #30
I am really looking forward to it. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #34
I hope Burns does a good job on this. Paladin Jan 2014 #37

Archae

(46,340 posts)
2. Some of the older, better singers and groups are still around.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jan 2014

Willie. (Naturally!)

Dolly Parton.

Crystal Gayle.

Oak Ridge Boys are still together.

Many, many more, who've been performing for decades.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
3. the last period in country music worth a damn was the 70s texas "outlaw"
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jan 2014

sound of Willie, Waylon, etc. And by etc. I mean "and the boys."



It has been pretty much watered down pop pabulum with fiddles and steel guitars ever since.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
7. correct - there is some good stuff on the fringes even now.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jan 2014

but the 70s were the last time "the industry" made real country music.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
6. Yes, though he should probably explore why popular Country music started sucking in the 80's.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jan 2014

It's important to the story of the genre, especially in light of less-than-sucky spin-offs like modern bluegrass.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
10. yeah, no kidding
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jan 2014

that is a story I would like to see. what was the trajectory from Waylon to Shania? and why?

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
11. Garth Brooks killed Country music
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jan 2014

I don't begrudge the man or his music (he is/was a master showman,) but the pop "crossover" was the death knell

Initech

(100,089 posts)
13. Oh no.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jan 2014

I'm very interested in seeing how country went from working class, anti-corporate heroes like Johnny Cash to flag-waving, Bible thumping patriotic BS like Toby Keith and Carrie Underwood.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
33. My thoughts were also along this line. Country music ended a while ago, replaced by something ...
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jan 2014

... I'll call "sounds that can make you money".

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
8. If it starts with the Carter Family it more or less defines the commencment date.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jan 2014

Golden oldie here from Long Cleeve Reed & Little Harvey Hull-Down Home Boys - only copy known to exist.



I've got the Bear Family boxed set of everything the Carter Family ever recorded when it was first released. http://www.bear-family.com/en/country-western-1/oldtime-country-1920-30-40s/carter-family-the-original-in-the-shadow-of-clinch-mountain-12-cd-book.html

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
25. You missed out Lamar
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jan 2014

I bought the The Complete Bascom Lamar Lunsford Bluegrass Story DVD years ago. Great stuff.

lpbk2713

(42,763 posts)
12. Forty years ago in C&W music ...
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:01 PM
Jan 2014



Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_in_country_music


Some of the names are still around but many have peaked out
and some are no longer with us.

Tom T Hall
Bill Anderson
Charlie Rich
Merle Haggard
Bobby Bare

Just to name a few.

I used to listen to C&W in the 70's but like in some of the
comments above I won't waste my time with it now.



DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
14. Hopefully focuses on good alt-country
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:05 PM
Jan 2014

There's a lot more artistic merit to be found on Jason Isbell's latest album than anything heard on mainstream country radio in the last 15 years.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
16. If you don't include Patsy Cline among country greats,
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:45 PM
Jan 2014

You don't know country music.

In addition, there are some decent groups mixed in with the dreck even on the pop country scene. Kacey Musgraves is in the same mold as Natalie Maines. Alison Krauss is a consistent great.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
21. ^^^^This is a great idea^^^^ one of the names from American History I always remember
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jan 2014

is Samuel Gompers. I wonder how many kids today learn about him.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
20. Ken Burns making a documentary on tin-type photography
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jan 2014

to use up some of the many that didn't make the cut in his other documentaries.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
26. That should be interesting.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jan 2014

In 1927, Jimmie Rodgers and the Carter Family were first recorded in Bristol, Tennessee/Virginia in an effort to save mountain music for historical purposes. That was the first known recordings of "country music". Of course, "mountain music" was around a long time before that.

There was the Renfro Valley Barndance before there was the Grand Ole Opry. There were mountain singers before there was country music. Most called it "hillbilly" music. That was the original country music.

Bill Monroe was the founder and leader of the "bluegrass" movement. It was popular in the 1930's, probably as avante garde as Elvis in the 50's or the Beatles in the '60's. Its roots were in the blues and black music similar to that from the Mississippi Delta.

The 40's brought entertainers like the Delmore Brothers, Hawkshaw Hawkins, Cowboy Copas, Patsy Montana, and Hank Snow. That was when "country music" really gained popularity and started to separate itself from the much-ridiculed "hillbilly" music. Even then, the Grand Ole Opry in Nashville still mocked the "hillbillies" with acts like Homer and Jethro, Alonzo and Oscar, Stringbean, Minnie Pearl, and Bashful Brother Oswald.

Also, the 40's brought us Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys and country swing. Country music became Country & Western.

Some would say that country music hit the "mainstream" in the early 50"s when Hank Williams came along. His songs would be recorded by singers in every genre of music. However, Elvis was almost booed off the stage of the Grand Ole Opry when he attempted to do his version of Bill Monroe's song, Blue Moon of Kentucky. Johnny Cash and Jerry Lee Lewis were a couple of artists that were able to cross over from rock and roll to country and vice-versa.

Female country singers became much more popular during the 1960's. Not only did we have Kitty Wells and Patsy Cline, but singers like Loretta Lynn, Tammy Wynette, and Dolly Parton became very popular.

The 70's had Willie and Waylon and the "Outlaw" movement. That was probably the last definable "eras" of country music. From the 80's until the present, country music became much more diversified and "citified" and lost much of its traditional roots.

This is kentuck's synopsis of the history of country music.



kentuck

(111,106 posts)
31. I was born and raised about 14 miles from Cumberland Gap.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jan 2014

And that was one of the first mountain songs ever made, Cumberland Gap. It is still played by some bluegrass artists.

I can remember when Elvis "hit" the mountains in 1954 with "That's Alright, Mama". It shook the music world. It wasn't Tony Bennett and it wasn't Perry Como and it wasn't like anything country we had ever heard? It wasn't Rock Around The Clock and it wasn't John R from WLAC....it was something different.

Paladin

(28,267 posts)
37. I hope Burns does a good job on this.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:38 AM
Jan 2014

I like Ken Burns, but if this documentary is truthful, it will detail a steep decline of quality into the present day. Quick version: Hank Williams to Hank Williams Jr. to Hank Williams III. (Or if you're a real glutton for punishment, watching an episode of "Nashville.&quot If I had one request to make of Burns, it would be to include a hard look at the fucking-over the Dixie Chicks took from the industry, because of one political comment. Absolutely shameful.

I used to listen to country-western music, but I don't anymore. My main exposure to it now is an occasional look at the CMT network, to watch and laugh at the hideous country music videos, featuring the current bunch of "artists." God-awful but hilarious----get an old truck, a guitar and a gal in a skimpy cotton dress, and you're good to go; no need for any talent......
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