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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRachel Maddow from last night - send this to everyone you know
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#46766656PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)This should be required viewing for ALL voters.
Scheeesh..... I didn't think I could detest ReThuglicans any more than I do, but that was before I watched this 18 minute segment.
Recommended.
NJCher
(35,746 posts)Because it wasn't clear what link the OP wanted us to click.
Anyway, it is quite a thrill. I cannot--in the farthest stretches of my imagination--see myself doing that.
Cher
Giantsfootball10
(74 posts)WE NEED a all Democrat hands on deck in DC in 2012.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)The Right Wing has corrupted the use. Thanks. It takes a little more time to type but it's worth it.
Giantsfootball10
(74 posts)Yes I said it..
deutsey
(20,166 posts)and vote these GOP dipshits out of office after all this stunning insanity, I don't know what will motivate us to do so.
malaise
(269,187 posts)Auggie
(31,194 posts)What's their real motive? Do they think this translates to votes? How are they so blind not to realize this will take them down? It just doesn't make sense. It's madness.
Thanks for the link malaise.
malaise
(269,187 posts)-the militias. Remember the most extreme racists believe by not having enough children wicked white women are facilitating the change in demographics and a lily white America is all that matters to them.
Auggie
(31,194 posts)It's why it doesn't make sense to me. Honestly, I would have expected them to have been better advised.
malaise
(269,187 posts)voting? What if among them is another McVeigh.
Remember the Martin Luther King Day attempted bombing on Spokane?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41139894/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/fbi-bomb-found-mlk-march-route/
How many more men like him will try to attack Obama's base but this time on election day?
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)but expect that will be into the second term...what concerns me more is that the fact of such "in your face tactics".. that the fix is already in with voting machine tampering, votor suppression tactics, and unlimited financing..
one would have to be awfully confident, or awfully stupid, to try these tactics.. and folks like the koch brothers, and Karl Rove, are not that stupid..
malaise
(269,187 posts)in the DOJ, in the courts, on the streets and even on certain parts of M$Greedia.
What they got away with in 2004 will not happen this time. People are now awake.
summerschild
(725 posts)The more I see them do this insane stuff, the more I believe they think the cards are stacked and they are unbeatable.
They have done so much so far to throw it - and they're not through. Citizens United is awful and it is only the tip of the iceberg as far as money Koch-etc has invested and is prepared to spend: media, journalists, think tanks, ALEC,judges. (I trust the Supreme Court as far as I can throw them now.) If the voter suppression stands with the new voting laws, there will be substantial votes lost. Every Republican legislature/governor has gerrymandered redistricting to new heights. The machine and vote tampering will be rampant and with the increased Republican control at the state level there will be less oversight and more heads turned and hands-on cheating. I've also heard there are deviations they can make in casting their electoral votes that would cancel out Obama votes.
They will do anything to win. EXPECT CHEATING AT NEW HEIGHTS.
Oldhippydude is VERY right that the folks like the Koch brothers and Karl Rove are not stupid - they just create smarter ways to cheat.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)i always beat myself up for missing the 1980 election.. i was discouraged..i vowed never again!! please lets know what we are up against and use it to inspire..
they simply can't win on a level playing feild, ( thats the reason they don't play on a level field and havent in the last 30 years) it's going to take massive turn out on our part to make up for the known and unknown hazzards..
Cosmocat
(14,574 posts)I think people give them too much credit sometimes in terms of "thinking" things out.
They are mean, they are relentless and they take no prisoners.
They just recycle the same things that have worked in the past until they bully the media into getting behind them on something.
That is what they do.
National security - BO has been so darn good on it, they have nothing to get traction on.
Economy - it isn't great, but hard to sell how they would have done better given people still realize they are big part of the reason it tanked in the first place.
Debt - with people more concerned about the economy, hard to beat the drum on the debt, and again, the memory of the fact that they own most of it is still there.
Guns - Ds have learned to not even screw with it, and again, the bizarre "BO did nothing in his first term so he can turn around and take them in a second term thing barely plays with even their base.
That leaves - the social issues.
The other thing is, they juts can't help themselves once they get into power. I had a discussion with a good R friend of mine right after the 2010 elections, and I said the House would do stupid crape - I thought they would try to impeach BO, and they have managed to not get into that, YET (they keep the house after, hopefully, BO wins this November and that WILL change). But, they can't help themselves from overreaching when they have power.
madokie
(51,076 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)...and the best way to do this is to rile up their base
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)thats partly the reason for the voter suppresion tactics, it buys them some time.. still this tactic could backfire on them, i dont think there are that many old white guys out there..
and i'm an old white guy and i'm here..
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)they somehow manage to do exactly that.
There needs to be public events held where they screen this and similar pieces. Not only does it show them violating the rights of women but also shows how hypocritcal they are about the invasion of the big brother government they are supposed to be against.
marble falls
(57,270 posts)GOP governors trying to get into every woman's pants. Talk about an unwarranted, unnecessary government intrusion into peoples' lives.
argyl
(3,064 posts)fire and did an amazing job of rounding up the usual suspects and showing them for the miserable shits they are for wanting women to undergo these humiliating tests. Having to tell your boss if and why you take birth control pills?
Maybe they're solidifying their knuckle dragging base but they'd have voted the line anyway.Rush told them to;that's all they need to know.
How many young professional women who reflexively vote the GOP ticket will be switching sides come the 2012 election? That goes for working class women as well. And their husbands,fathers,sons, brothers and male friends and lovers.
The Republicans have always been assholes but they've been assholes with a plan and the ability to put up a unified front. This is a total clusterfuck.
Here's to the destruction of the Republican Party.
malaise
(269,187 posts)argyl
(3,064 posts)see her giving the bums hell. My jaw was on the ground by the time she was done. Everyone should see this remarkable piece.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)No tv here....but the essential stuff shows up on DU, I find.
btw...I detect ALEC's fine hand in these bills which have sprung up all over.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)is a pack of lies? The doctor can say that right? Otherwise, it would be an infringement upon a doc's First Amendment rights, no?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Doctors I have heard still take the Hippocratic if they want to. But, I guess the RepubliCONs would change that to the hippocritical oath, the one where they promise to lie to women even if it puts their health in jeopardy.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)I'm too upset to even type a rant.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)and always said that Hippocrates was more observed in the breach than the observance ,,,
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Pisces
(5,602 posts)I can not wrap my head around some of the nonsense like lying to a patient, proving to your employer that you need the pill
for something other than birth control????
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and Planned Parenthood.
We are going to need both.
frogmarch
(12,160 posts)Thanks for the link. It's on its way to everyone in my email address book.
Danascot
(4,694 posts)to go all Lisbeth Salander on these perverts? (Something involving probes perhaps?)
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Although I'm more the long range type...
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Seeing item after item after item, the rape, not only physical but psychological, of women in this country, laid out in the events of only one week, is so disturbing that I hope it will cause us to rise up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
malaise
(269,187 posts)what will it take.
That said Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Occupy, the 99%, attacks on Planned Parenthood including Komen have made most folks start paying attention.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)No longer the majority in colleges, medical schools, law schools. Outnumbered by Asians and Indians in IT and engineering, or soon will be. All they have left is to attack women. There must be a way to fight back by embarrassing them.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Who will be counting the votes in your district, your state? And who will be watching the people that counts the votes?
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)and I am pretty sure that most women in this country would participate. nothing else is stopping them. i have never seen anything so insane in my life!
malaise
(269,187 posts)and remember their success
OVERPAID01
(71 posts)the tea baggers didn't hijack the democtratic party, they are nuts. Up until now i had a hard time trying to distinguish a democrat from a republican, but these past couple of years has made it so much easier. Unfortunately i still won't waste my efforts voting this time around, Obama didn't do anything he promised and the country has slipped dramatically in the wrong direction. I would rather take a warm bath on election night and remember the days when we were fighting to keep ketchup from being declared a member of the fruit and vegetable group.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)alot of tea baggers got in,bad stuff. Obama did what he could with the constant obstruction from repubs.
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)wasting your vote.
By not voting for the alternative to the radically RW GOP, you enable the radical RW to prevail and thus reduce the chances of any moderation whatsoever. You may be disillusioned with Dems, but they still haven't fallen off the cliff. Not yet.
The GOP HAS fallen off the cliff and cares so little about the country that it will pull all of us with them into the abyss and not care a bit. We are in this mess in part because of our FUBAR two-party system but mostly because too many people in 2000 "saw no difference" between Gore and Bush. In 2004, too many of the same people still couldn't bring themselves to vote for an able, competent - and proven liberal - Kerry against a monstrously incompetent and warmongering Bush. Of course, both elections also had tons of the dirty tricks, deliberate distortions and outright intimidation that are standard GOP tactics. But there were still too many people who sat things out, thus enabling the ultimate success of those abominable tactics.
Not voting in the 2010 elections - at all levels - is why there are now so many crazy GOP-dominated state legislatures and wingnut GOP governors in lockstep with the Koch brothers, KKKarl Rove and their ilk.
As a US citizen who has footprints both in the US and abroad - where I actually learn more about my own country and how it is perceived than when I am in the US - I really do not believe that the US can survive as a nation under another GOP Presidency, at least not under any candidate that today's literally insane GOP would support.
IMO and I am very sorry to say this, in today's political climate in the US, there is literally no difference between a) not voting or b) voting GOP.
Please think very carefully about how you will use the power that you have. I have always felt that using my right to vote in an election has earned me the right to complain, even when the candidate that I supported disappoints me, as inevitably happens.
If I don't use my right to vote, I am simply a fence-sitter who bitches.
midnight
(26,624 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)malaise
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