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We were there. We are always there, whether our nominations are sparse or relatively plentiful. Last night, nods for people of color at the Golden Globes were the latter, with Chiwetel Ejiofor nominated in two categories, his 12 Years a Slave costar Lupita Nyongo and director Steve McQueen also in the running, Don Cheadle up for his lead role in Showtimes House of Lies, and Idris Elba nominated for playing Nelson Mandela. As is the case when more than one or two of us are gathered in the name of Hollywoods top honors, black viewers were also planted in front of their TVs at home and logged into their Twitter accounts, waiting to see if the winds of change were favorable.
We didnt have to wait long. Lupita Nyongos category was the first of the night. When she didnt win best supporting actress in a motion picture for her gut-wrenching turn as Patsey, it shouldve been clear how the rest of the night would progress. But we watched and tweeted on, through Cheadles and Elbas losses (which came as little surprise, given their competition). We shrugged off Ejiofors snub for Dancing on the Edge even he looked unsurprised by that one and we waited to hear his name called again, this time for playing the role of his career: Solomon Northup.
He lost. Adding insult to injury, he lost to Matthew McConaughey who, though he did great work in Dallas Buyers Club, is no Chiwetel Ejiofor, even on his best day and especially not when hes competing against Ejiofors work in 12 Years a Slave.
Not every person of color approaches Hollywoods awards season with an eye toward race, but it can be difficult not to when Hollywood and pop culture media most certainly use a racial lens to peer out at non-white audiences. Much was made of USA Todays race-themed headline gaffe a few months ago, but it underscored the truth of the marketing matter: race is still a conflating category in Hollywood. Across genre and regardless of quality, if a film has more than one actor of color in a lead role, it becomes a race film which is to say that its solely marketed to people who were once only allowed to sit in the decaying balconies of Americas movie houses.
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/14/the_golden_globes_race_problem_why_awards_shows_matter/
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)But then again I guess Best Drama is a fairly minor award.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)black consumers make 195 million trips to the movies annually. What we see, how we connect to it, and how that connection is acknowledged matters to us. As great as it would be to be able to ignore the import of mainstream validation, we cant and we shouldnt. In a year like this, when the front-running films featuring black actors are based on real people and events, we should feel fully justified in wanting these powerful dramatizations to be revered. Award wins are one way to affirm that weve told our stories to someone other than ourselves, to someone who would not have otherwise known them, to someone who may have been loath to acknowledge that they happened.
For those of us who weathered last nights losses long enough to witness 12 Years a Slaves big win for best picture, that affirmation came just in time.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Gee, I wonder what the author's agenda was here.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)She is hiding nothing. You act as if she is.
She is an writer who would like to see more mainstream awards for non-white actors in a year that has featured exceptional roles for black actors, in an industry that rarely has them.
As the writer of this piece, she doesn't get to choose the pictures, or the headline, either. That is usually up to the editors.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)the author's agenda was to honor the actors for theirs
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LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Dumb article
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Be specific.
vaberella
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cali
(114,904 posts)1 in 14 isn't that shocking. What about Latinos? Or Asian Americans?
Honestly, I'm not convinced that this kind of article spells out anything definitive,
fishwax
(29,149 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)It even says so in the caption at the article.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)but not for the other awards such as directors?
fishwax
(29,149 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)So it wouldn't make much sense to include him in the collage.
marmar
(77,084 posts)Dr. King's dream has been realized !!!!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)according to its percentage in the general population? Is that what MLK was hoping for?
marmar
(77,084 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And how about sports teams? Baseball, hockey, football, basketball? When their racial makeup does not reflect that of the general population is that evidence of racism?
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Sports are based on region and having a certain skill in a sport. For instance is it racist that most Hockey players are not Black or Hispanic...most of those guys are living in a cultural dominant area. Same for the reason many speed skaters are not Black. While the field of acting is massively broad.
The reason I don't compare it to acting is because there are shows that are made up predominantly of Hispanics that are not listed or recognized by the Emmy's or Actor's Guild and that are produced and aired in America and in English. Many Black tv shows have been systematically shunned and ignored from these same major organizations. When it comes to Foreign films it rare to see an African movie ever chosen as Best Foreign film or recognition to Hispanic and Black directors. Which there are many of. Majority of those recognitions are going towards the pale side of yellow.
My point is this the genre of acting and Hollywood in general is actually a massive and broad group that is not wholly unrecognized on a regular basis.
merrily
(45,251 posts)fairly, as a general rule?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Very small point, but I don't consider anything "reverse racism.". Either something is racist or it isn't. JMO.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Never seen a race issue you are all to happy to shit on. You and your white privilege strike again.
merrily
(45,251 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)foreign press, so they've got that European bias still working.
Hell, they gave the lifetime achievement award to a child molester...what does one really expect?
kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)"He lost. Adding insult to injury, he lost to Matthew McConaughey who, though he did great work in Dallas Buyers Club, is no Chiwetel Ejiofor, even on his best day and especially not when hes competing against Ejiofors work in 12 Years a Slave."
In the writers OPINION. Others may not agree, thus (the writer aledges) there MUST be racism at play.
The Salon writer was correct in describing systematic racism (even when leaving out the best drama recipient - wtf?).
dionysus
(26,467 posts)kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Probably the most powerful move I've ever seen. Seriously.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)And people draw conclusions based on their interpretations of reality.
You are certainly free to disagree with the author about McConaughey's performance versus Chiwetel Ejiofor's. (Do you disagree on that point, btw?) However, nothing is wrong with what the author wrote.
And, yes, the systemic bias evident in all kinds of award shows over decades is the overarching issue..
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Which is DAMNED racist!
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)That's the Oscars.
The least the author could do is get the focus on the right people, the Foreign Press....except, that doesn't fit the "America is bad" argument, does it?
RainDog
(28,784 posts)I thought it was crazy, back in the day, when Spike Lee didn't win at Cannes for She's Gotta Have It instead of Soderberg. And I thought it was crazy that Malcolm X didn't win for best picture.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)Both were powerful performances. People in the theater where I saw the movie clapped when it was over.
It's great, tho, that McQueen won the biggest award.
I don't really follow or care too much about awards, tho, because a lot of it has to do with insider stuff. Orson Welles never was acknowledged for his work, Alfred Hitchcock - lots of people who you would think would get recognition.
The films I think should win rarely do.
If you like more "non-mainstream" kind of narratives - did you ever see "To Sleep With Anger?" Charles Burnett. Danny Glover was amazing in that one.
Another one - even less conventional, as a narrative, is Julie Dash's "Daughters of the Dust." It's very poetic, and not so much about a plot as the lives of generations of Gullah women.
Everytime I think of TSsA, I think of this song from the soundtrack - the best version of this song, to me.
Baitball Blogger
(46,744 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Just seems really fucked up. Don't think I was ever make it through more than 5 or 6 minutes of one of those shows.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)House of Cards?
Breaking Bad?
Top of the Lake?
Those are the few I watched, and have to agree about the awards. Spectacular performances, one and all.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I was never impressed with that show. It's the "in" show to watch and say one loves. I simply didn't "love it."
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)But as for performance, I thought Kevin Spacey was better in House of Cards.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)The cinematography was filmic, not small screen. I watched it from the time it started.
Cranston deserved the award, to me, but I couldn't even get through House of Cards because I had seen the British version (via tapes at my library - the original and the 2nd sequel - never saw the third.) and it was just so good, I couldn't stand to watch the Americanized one.
did you see Borgen, about a Swedish woman who becomes the first pm? That was streaming via KCET, but I don't think it's available through them anymore. It's very good - but it's not amoral like House of Cards, but it was amazing to see what an actual liberal democracy looks like, with labor and feminist parties actually having representation - all the characters have their flaws, agendas, etc. It was 3 seasons long.
Orange is the New Black is also good - very funny - and also netflix generated.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Loved it as well. I do think the American version is brilliant... In it's American way. Apples and oranges and all that.
Haven't seen Borgen. Have seen Orange is the New Black. It took me a while to warm to that one, but I look forward to the next season.
I don't have cable service so I'm limited to Netflix and what my local library stocks.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Borgen might show up on Netflix - I recommend looking for it if you like political drama - I don't have tv, either. Dropped cable long ago.
check out linkTV, online, for streaming programs - they also had Borgen up for two weeks at a time per episode.
I don't know if it's on netflix, but I also enjoyed a French series, Les Revenants, and I don't watch much "horror." Also Broadchurch - I think both of these are being remade, or have been, as American series - but I like to watch how different cultures tell their stories.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Yes, the Hollywood Foreign Press is perfectly representative of American culture, and what Hollywood studios think.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I think that is the important point.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Comrade Grumpy
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question everything
(47,488 posts)Personally, I think that the movie "Nebraska" and the two actors should have won. Bruce Dern is 77 and June Squibb is 84. Does this mean that seniors were excluded?
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)I did not find anything wrong with it. What I believe the author is trying to point out is that progress is still slow even in Hollywood but the author ended the article on a note to indicate the tide is changing but slowly.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Over Chiwetel Ejiofor? That does seem odd. He was amazing, as was the actress who played Patsy.
People seem defensive over this op/ed piece. The point is that it seems to be harder for black actors and actresses to win awards like this. And if Matthew McConaughey beat Chiwetel Ejiofor, I have to agree.
cali
(114,904 posts)adulation seems to be catching and adulation in waves, is drenching him.
Baitball Blogger
(46,744 posts)Main roles that were meant for minorities, or people of darker complexion, can be given to people who are Caucasian. Katniss Everdeen is the most current example. Although I can't imagine anyone else playing the role, besides Jennifer Lawrence, the truth is that we are left with the false impression that there aren't that many talented minority actors out there to pick from.
cilla4progress
(24,738 posts)Hard to imagine only one win for a person of color, out of all of the choices available...
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes INDEED
merrily
(45,251 posts)But, as the author of the Salon article pointed out, people of color were nominated this year, including people who did a fantastic job in an excellent film.