My crazy RW uncle has a PHd in Global Politics, has a weekly call in radio show and writes

[librechik]

for Countrerpunch. He thinks Obama is a diabolical villain and child killer who is even worse than Bush.

I can't escape him on Facebook. Kill me now.

[rfranklin]

1. Better yet, kill him...

It's the sensible thing to do.

[TexasTowelie]

4. Make certain that he leaves you the money

and donate it to liberal causes.

[think]

2. Thank goodness for sites like DU to relieve some of that stress!

I don't talk politics with my uncles and aunts. I still like to be part of the family

[leveymg]

3. RW ... Counterpunch? Cognitive dissonance going off-scale.

Not when I last checked, 30 seconds ago.

[librechik]

6. not RW, really, he's just intellectual-libertarian, I guess

I know, I felt so safe as a liberal talking to him then BLAM Obama's a child murderer and here's why...I too am very upset with the way Obama has continued (if not advanced) Bush prinicipals, but I don't think it's something in his personality, I think it's an e inescapable web of momentum we all are caught in due to forces of globalization. So I find myself defending Obama where I would normally be more critical. It's the worse than Bush stuff I can't handle!

[librechik]

8. Alexander Cockburn is his best friend. Do they both hate Obama?

Explain THAT variety of liberalism to me. It's beyond my ken.

[leveymg]

10. Obama may be moderate liberal, Cockburn is radical - different, very different frames of reference.

It's not a left-right continuum with Obama on the Left and Cockburn on his right. No. Cockburn is off that scale Left, which means that he holds views that resembles some anti-statist aspects of libertarianism. Cockburn and most others at CounterPunch are definitely of the anti-war, anti-authoritarian Left.

By the sort of permanent rightward creep in American politics, maybe Obama is about as "liberal" as the Establishment media and corporate America might find acceptable, but by European standards (and those of many of us here at DU), Obama is center-right.

A lot of people on both ends of the spectrum hate the Establishment policies and institutions that Obama is doing (in some ways) a quite competent job of rehabilitating and bailing-out. For a few, it may be a personal animus, but Barack is no more mercenary or amoral than any other good corporate attorney.

[librechik]

12. thx for the info

I want to move to someplace that exists in the 21st century. cuz the US doesn't.

I am furious that Obama didn't use his unique opportunity to force real change, but relaxed with Geithner and Summers instead. But every once in awhile he gives me hope. Don't know why I believe it. It is disappointing indeed. But I can't go along with the utter demonization stuff, even tho he may deserve it.

[leveymg]

14. Even demons are human, too. ;)

[snooper2]

5. Tell him there's a DU'er who knows who he is..

And he's first on the list to go into the camp, probably before this Fall

then send him this

&feature=related

[grantcart]

7. tell him that you have seen the list and he is on it.

let him squirm in his own paranoia.

[sudopod]

9. 1) Friend some DUers

2) Pile on
3) ???
4) PROFIT!

[librechik]

15. lol

[MicaelS]

11. Does this mean we should shoot you now?

Or wait until you get home?

[librechik]

19. ...this always winds up with the duck beakless. Or worse.

I might just surrender. Logically, I should hate Obama too.

Hmmm. I just noticed, my uncle looks rather like Bugs Bunny.

[Puregonzo1188]

13. Your rightwing uncle writes for the leftist newsletter Counterpunch?

Clear to elaborate? Is he actually a rightwinger or are all critics of Obama rightwing?

[librechik]

16. I know. I know. I'm so confused.

actually, I should have put quotes around "crazy RW Uncle" I just meant the character who does that thing at the dinner table. I'm sure he isn't RW, but I feel like defending Obama against him. And I don't even like Obama's policies (at least the DOJ/Defense policies we're discussing. I'm a leftie too! At least I thought I was.

[Johonny]

17. i imagine he hates obama all the way the bank

Obama is great for right wings liberal hating business.

[Rex]

18. Well it goes to show that a person can be smart and stupid

at the same time.