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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 06:34 PM Jan 2014

Washington Post: Is New York’s de Blasio prompting a repositioning by the Clintons?


By Dan Balz, Thursday, January 2, 7:25 AM

It isn’t often that the swearing-in of a new mayor of New York draws national television attention, but then, it isn’t every day that you see a mayor sworn in by a former president of the United States with a prospective presidential candidate also on the stage. De Blasio, now one of the most liberal elected officials in the United States, delivered an unabashedly progressive inaugural speech that closely tracked the themes of his “tale of two cities” mayoral campaign. It was the kind of speech not often heard in national politics since Bill Clinton redefined the Democratic Party as New Democrats.

De Blasio has become a beacon to those in the Democratic Party’s progressive wing, who have often been disappointed by or disillusioned with President Obama and what he has done and not done in office. The progressives see few political leaders on the left — Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is one exception — willing to give voice to their agenda. All that would be enough to lend significance to Wednesday’s swearing-in. But it was the added presence of the former president and former secretary of state that gave it significance beyond the city’s boundaries.

And so, after his generous words for Bloomberg, he said, “I have to say this. I strongly endorse Bill de Blasio’s core campaign commitment that we have to have a city of shared opportunity, shared prosperity, shared responsibilities.”

The former president was clearly mindful that the Democratic Party of 2014 and of Barack Obama is not quite the same as the one he led in the 1990s — and that one potential obstacle in the path of Hillary Clinton’s possible presidential ambitions is a primary challenge from the left. His embrace of de Blasio’s message was a deliberate step in the positioning of the Clintons as they look to a possible campaign


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Washington Post: Is New York’s de Blasio prompting a repositioning by the Clintons? (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #1
It's called co-opting the message. delrem Jan 2014 #2
I think they've proven their position, and this strategy, often enough by now. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #9
In 2000, Bill De Blasio was Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager when she ran for the Senate. Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #10
So he knows all too well. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #12
He will almost certainly endorse her in a primary. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #20
Hillary is extremely cognizant of the threat of a challenge from the left. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #3
Um..they've been close for decades. He ran her 2000 campaign. If she runs, consider NYC msanthrope Jan 2014 #15
Yep. de Blasio being elected was perfect for her (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #16
Absolutely. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #17
It's called seeing which way the wind is blowing and pretending you were going that way all along. X_Digger Jan 2014 #4
warren is the de blasio wing of the party not hillary madrchsod Jan 2014 #5
He would endorse Hillary because they are close, but yes Warren and deBlasio are very close hrmjustin Jan 2014 #21
If I never heard anything about the Clintons again, it wouldn't be too soon. pangaia Jan 2014 #6
Finally the table is starting to turn. Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #7
Let me see malaise Jan 2014 #8
The casual use of the phrase "Democratic Party’s progressive wing" is telling. 1000words Jan 2014 #11
+1 Scuba Jan 2014 #14
Yeah but more recently they denied there was even a wing, just "a fringe" Tom Rinaldo Jan 2014 #18
I think the attempt by the "sensible center" to blame the "fringe far left" for blocking cuts in Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #19
I agree, and I doubt the backlash has anywhere crested Tom Rinaldo Jan 2014 #22
Politics is politics.... Historic NY Jan 2014 #13
perhaps another kick would be worthwhile Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #23

Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. It's called co-opting the message.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:00 PM
Jan 2014

Messages get co-opted by opportunists who have no intention of implementing the policy changes, but who want to cover their true colors with a facade.

I wouldn't believe Bill and Hillary on this one. I'd wait until they proved their position with action, and that action is not just lacking but is the opposite.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
9. I think they've proven their position, and this strategy, often enough by now.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:22 PM
Jan 2014

I don't think De Blasio is going to fall for it.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. Hillary is extremely cognizant of the threat of a challenge from the left.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:04 PM
Jan 2014

Cosying up to someone like deBlasio is a perfect strategy for improving her image in this regard without committing herself to any specific promises.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. Um..they've been close for decades. He ran her 2000 campaign. If she runs, consider NYC
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:30 PM
Jan 2014

her campaign headquarters.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
4. It's called seeing which way the wind is blowing and pretending you were going that way all along.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jan 2014

Free clue for the Clintons- it's blatantly transparent.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
21. He would endorse Hillary because they are close, but yes Warren and deBlasio are very close
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:13 AM
Jan 2014

On the issues.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. If I never heard anything about the Clintons again, it wouldn't be too soon.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jan 2014

Nothing against your post. It's just that they are just a couple more opportunists who do some good and some bad... and laugh all the way to the bank...

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
7. Finally the table is starting to turn.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jan 2014

I would remind people that FDR was not always the FDR of the New Deal. LBJ was not always the LBJ of the Great Society and certainly not the champion for civil rights and integration. History creates great leaders far more than great leaders creates history.

You don't need a weatherman to tell you which way the wind is blowing.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
8. Let me see
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jan 2014

Perhaps the fact that Bill de Blasio worked for Bill Clinton and indeed a big player in Hillary's Senate campaign is all there is to see here...and I am no Hillary fan.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
11. The casual use of the phrase "Democratic Party’s progressive wing" is telling.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:34 PM
Jan 2014

Used to be there was no need to qualify; it was a given.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
18. Yeah but more recently they denied there was even a wing, just "a fringe"
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:45 PM
Jan 2014

The leftist message is getting harder to sweep under the rug.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
19. I think the attempt by the "sensible center" to blame the "fringe far left" for blocking cuts in
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:01 AM
Jan 2014

Social Security and Medicare kind of backfired on them

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
22. I agree, and I doubt the backlash has anywhere crested
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 09:21 AM
Jan 2014

Though they wanted to marginalize it, Occupy's message broke through to the public. There finally is a potent counter meme to the smoke screen hue and cry about "deficits" that the corporate funded far right got non stop media coverage with. Tens of millions of Americans have increasingly felt growing anxiety, if not full panic, about their prospects for economic (and literal) survival. Previously the Right had a near free hand to blame all that on job killing environmentalists and government interference. More and more now people are blaming their increasing poverty on the 1%, and realizing that core government run safety net programs exist to protect them.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
13. Politics is politics....
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:27 PM
Jan 2014

The Clintons are just paying back on what was owed.

I see the media is stretching out the progressive labeling..for the record progressive isn't liberal either.

http://prorev.com/proglib.htm

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