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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:08 PM Mar 2012

Donald Trump’s sons criticized after brutal hunting photos released (WARNING: Graphic photo)

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Donald Trump, Jr. and Eric Trump have drawn the ire of PETA after photos surfaced showing the brothers on a wild game hunting trip in Zimbabwe last year.

TMZ first posted photos from the trip under the headline, "Donald Trump's Sons Ignite War Over Animal Butchery." During the hunting trip, the Trump sons reportedly killed a number of exotic animals, including an elephant, crocodile, kudu, civet cat and waterbuck.

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Donald Trump’s sons criticized after brutal hunting photos released (WARNING: Graphic photo) (Original Post) cynatnite Mar 2012 OP
This makes me sick. n/t Firebrand Gary Mar 2012 #1
Someone should hunt the Trumps graywarrior Mar 2012 #2
I'll second that. Doremus Mar 2012 #21
I don't have a problem with hunting if you hunt to eat notadmblnd Mar 2012 #3
You can go to the grocery store if you want meat. RebelOne Mar 2012 #7
Depends on where you live... cynatnite Mar 2012 #11
I've never hunted or killed anything outside of a few pesky insects. notadmblnd Mar 2012 #12
Depends on how you amortize the costs. PavePusher Mar 2012 #14
Hunting for meat is cheap Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #16
The price of a hunting license, bullets and firearms will be paid back over time ... spin Mar 2012 #18
What makes this so obscene is that they don't have to hunt for food... cynatnite Mar 2012 #8
In this case I agree with you ... spin Mar 2012 #20
Like father like son. Hoyt Mar 2012 #4
What a creep. EC Mar 2012 #5
Mugabe/ZANUPF supporting scum. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #6
Don't keep it a secret. Who criticized him? nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #9
The Junior models "man" things SkepticNY Mar 2012 #10
What a big, strong, manly man Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #13
"big, laser guidedcannon of a gun" PavePusher Mar 2012 #15
I don't know exactly what weapon he used Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #19
A bit. PavePusher Mar 2012 #22
Even if he isnt technically correct, he made his point. nm rhett o rick Mar 2012 #23
Fucking degenerate, asshole scumbags. The Trump Family... GReedDiamond Mar 2012 #17

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
21. I'll second that.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 11:27 PM
Mar 2012


Drop them into the jungle without benefit of their high caliber weapons and see how well they survive with only their (half) wits. To make it slightly more fair, which is more than they offer their outgunned opponents, I'll even give them a fortnight's training with a survival expert.

Some people cannot learn empathy without a personal introduction.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
3. I don't have a problem with hunting if you hunt to eat
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:22 PM
Mar 2012

But just killing- to be killing and mutilating is disgusting. There should be a special kind of hell for those people.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
7. You can go to the grocery store if you want meat.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:36 PM
Mar 2012

Considering the price of the hunting license, bullets and any other equipment, it would be cheaper to buy your meat from the grocery shelves. Or do you just enjoy the thrill of the kill?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
11. Depends on where you live...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:49 PM
Mar 2012

My husband's family lived in isolated areas of Montana. Money was always tight. Hunting, fishing and gardening was the best way to put food on the table.

There are still areas of the country where hunting is the best way to feed a family. A family can get enough meat to last through a winter far cheaper than buying it in a store.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
12. I've never hunted or killed anything outside of a few pesky insects.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:30 PM
Mar 2012

But I have gone out to a farm and picked out my beef while it was still alive. I can assure you that- that animal had a much better life than any piece of meat you've ever bought at a store. I can also assure you that it is usually much healthier (not filled with additives) and much cheaper.


Do you think the meat you buy in the store isn't just as dead as the one someone kills out in the field or on the farm?


However, If I were into killing just for the thrill of it- it wouldn't the four legged animals I'd hunt.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
14. Depends on how you amortize the costs.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:42 PM
Mar 2012

I hunt with an 80-year-old Russian military surplus rifle that cost less than $150.

And how do you think the meat in the store gets there? Sheesh. One shudders to think in what esteem you hold slaughter-house workers....

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
16. Hunting for meat is cheap
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:46 PM
Mar 2012

The price of a weapon (which can last for decades), ammo and licensing fees are FAR cheaper than buying meat at a store. And considering that a good kill can feed you for months, hunting is an economical way of life.

spin

(17,493 posts)
18. The price of a hunting license, bullets and firearms will be paid back over time ...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:55 PM
Mar 2012

plus the meat from hunting, in my opinion, tastes far better than store bought meat when prepared properly.

I live in a very poor county in Florida and many people here hunt to provide food for their families. I should mention that I am not a hunter but sometimes a friend will give my family some wild hog or deer meat. I do enjoy target shooting and have a rifle that would be adequate for hunting any game in Florida. It's a Swedish Mauser made in the 1940s which is known for being extremely accurate and is commonly used in Europe for hunting game up to moose. The rifle cost me about $200 and is extremely good condition.

I also own a number of large caliber handguns which I personally use for target practice which would also be adequate for hunting deer or hog. Ammo is expensive but one bullet can take down a deer or a wild boor if you can shoot accurately.

Like I have said, I do not hunt so I have no knowledge if there is a thrill to killing game. When talking to hunters I get the feeling that there is. If I ever decide to hunt, I will be mainly concerned with a "clean kill" where the animal I shoot does not suffer unnecessarily. The reason I do not hunt is that I am a candidate for a hip replacement and I would find tracking down a wounded animal difficult. Therefore I currently leave hunting to younger and fitter individuals.

Where I live deer and hogs are plentiful. Wild hogs are considered a pest and I don't believe that a license is required to hunt them as long as you have the property owners permission or you are on your own property. When I moved to this area of north Florida from Tampa after I retired I had to realize that deer are a traffic hazard. My daughter and several neighbors have had them run out in front of their vehicles and they can cause significant damage. My son in law who drives a 18 wheeler calls them large rodents and has had one accident when a deer ran out in front of his truck. He constantly has to be alert when driving through Florida or Georgia.

If you live in a large city, you may have an entirely different view of deer than I do. While I don't hunt, I feel that hunters do a service by limiting the amount of deer and wild hog. It is unfortunate that we have eliminated natural predators that might keep the population of deer under control. Wild hogs are not native and can do considerable damage and breed at a rate that would amaze a city dweller.

However, I am not fond of trophy hunting in foreign nations. Such activity might benefit the local ecomony but still I see little reason for it.







cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
8. What makes this so obscene is that they don't have to hunt for food...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:37 PM
Mar 2012

This was done strictly for pleasure. You are right.

spin

(17,493 posts)
20. In this case I agree with you ...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:58 PM
Mar 2012

hunting to put food on the table for a family that is middle or low income is a far different matter.

SkepticNY

(2 posts)
10. The Junior models "man" things
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:44 PM
Mar 2012

This is disgusting. Instead of stroking his ego he should have donated to the NWF or PETA. What kind of person gets pleasure out of killing helpless animals? Cutting off the elephant's tail? Such blatant disregard for life. I guess daddy was impressed with junior's macho posing.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
13. What a big, strong, manly man
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:40 PM
Mar 2012

With a big, laser guided cannon of a gun. And probably a whole TEAM of servants who cook his meals and plump his pillows at night. Right after cocktails, of course.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
15. "big, laser guidedcannon of a gun"
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:45 PM
Mar 2012

Please don't think I'm defending the idiot in the picture, but I don't think you know what you are talking about.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
19. I don't know exactly what weapon he used
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:58 PM
Mar 2012

But you can bet that it's the latest, most efficient weapon that money can buy.

And by "efficient" I mean the easiest to use and targeted to the endangered animal he wished to kill.

Do you have experience with elephant guns?

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
22. A bit.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 12:21 PM
Mar 2012

I lived in Zaire for 3 three years in the early '80's.

A .416 Rigby will damn near knock a scrawny 12-year-old on his ass.

The rifle pictured in the photo does not even appear to have a scope, let alone be "laser guided", but most of the action is cropped out.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=604175

http://www.safaribwana.com/COUNTRIES/South%20Africa/sapages/saGuns.htm

I've never heard of anyone using laser sighting systems there, but I don't see any regulations against it (very brief search).

As a side note, many of the guided hunts there are used as wildlife management for many of the national parks that get overpopulated. It's generally done on some kind of lottery system. Any meat would be either marketed or donated locally. Of course, many things may have changed, it's not a subject I keep of with much.

GReedDiamond

(5,313 posts)
17. Fucking degenerate, asshole scumbags. The Trump Family...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:48 PM
Mar 2012

...epitomizes what's wrong with allowing arrogant, worthless parasitic dregs of society, such as "The Donald" and his sadistic sons, to possess as much $$$ as they do.

Fuck em all, I hope karma catches up with them in a major, definitive manner, sooner, rather than later.

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