Kirk Cameron Attempts to Out-Think Stephen Hawking and Fails Miserably

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by Simone Sanner
December 28, 2013

Rocket scientist and world-renowned unparalleled genius Kirk Cameron – just ask him, he will agree – challenged Stephen Hawking in an interview with TMZ regarding the answers to life, the universe, and everything.

“Professor Hawking is heralded as the ‘genius of Britain’,” said Cameron, “Yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life.”

While even a five-year-old has some glimmer of a clue how chemicals come together to create amino acids, Cameron seems to have missed that lesson, however Cameron continued, “ (Hawking) says he knows there is no Heaven. John Lennon wasn’t sure. He said to pretend there’s no Heaven. That’s easy if you try. Then he said he hoped that someday we would join him.”

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[spanone]

1. stupidity wrapped in ignorance paraded arrogantly as wisdom

[TheBlackAdder]

38. I'm waiting for Kirk to answer this:

If there were nothing, before God created Heaven and Earth...

Besides implying there is another Universe besides the one we are living in, how did God come into existence?

[NaturalHigh]

2. Kirk Cameron aside...

I've often wondered about Hawking's theories. Since most of us aren't nearly as intelligent as Hawking and don't understand most of his theories anyway, how do we know that he's right about a lot of stuff? How do we even know that he doesn't just make shit up sometimes?

[arcane1]

5. Fortunately, science doesn't work like that.

You don't just have people making claims and everyone believing them. It's all about peer review, testability, predictability, and falsifiability. Nothing is considered true (or close to the truth) just because someone said so.

[Vattel]

24. true, but you have to distinguish hawking's brilliant peer-reviewed stuff from his popular bullshit.

[napkinz]

25. re "It's all about peer review."

Who reviews the findings of Kirk Cameron?

Sarah Palin? Megyn Kelly? Phil Robertson?

[arcane1]

28. The mind who brought us the "crocoduck" has no peers.

[kairos12]

36. Don't forget Chairman Shrub

[longship]

9. Because he is a theoretician and is subject to peer review.

And there are physicists who follow and understand his work. If his theories did not work it would be exposed. There have been notable examples when he was wrong. Such is the world of science.

There are many examples where his theories hold up. For instance, one of his big ones, Hawking Radiation which predicts that black holes must eventually evaporate via quantum virtual particle pair generation near a black hole's Schwarzchild radius.

The guy is pretty amazing given that he's been nearly totally paralyzed with motor neuron disease for decades and cannot even talk.

[NaturalHigh]

11. Oh, I'm actually pretty sure most of Hawking's stuff holds up.

There are many examples where his theories hold up. For instance, one of his big ones, Hawking Radiation which predicts that black holes must eventually evaporate via quantum virtual particle pair generation near a black hole's Schwarzchild radius.

See...I find all of that interesting, but I don't understand any of it.

[longship]

13. Yup. Quantum field theory does a mind job.

I took undergrad quantum theory for my physics BS and a little mathematical physics at the grad level. Never went beyond that. My big mistake. It's pretty wild stuff.

Too bad many people use that wildness to argue that science supports their woo ideas.

[Peregrine]

34. Hawking will actually correct himself publicly

He used to talk about "white holes" existing (the other end of a black hole), but publicly redacted it himself. Admitting to his error.

[Humanist_Activist]

49. Who said that you aren't as intelligent or don't understand his theories?

You seem to have imposed these limits, on yourself. You can educate yourself to better understand what Stephen Hawking is talking about, if you wish. That's how science works, because if Stephen Hawkings is making shit up, he will get caught by others, whether its you, or someone else, its called peer review.

[xchrom]

3. poor thing ... dropped on his head as a baby, i'm sure. nt

[JeffHead]

4. He's not out thinking, he's just circumnavigating the intellect.

[NightWatcher]

6. I don't see the link to the onion

I's is scared.

His old show, Growing Pains. New show, Thinking Pains.

[edhopper]

7. forget about Hawkins

He doesn't understand Lennon.

[Iggo]

10. My thought exactly.

[napkinz]

22. reminds me of that scene in "Dinner for Schmucks"

[Scootaloo]

8. When asked for comment, Hawking had this to say;

"Ha. ha. ha. ha. ha. ha."



Kirk Cameron couldn't out-think a plastic carrot. What chance has he got against a guy whose brain can shoot lasers and levitate farm tractors*?







* - citation needed

[Voice for Peace]

35. * here ya go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024246684#post8

[Scootaloo]

40. ...Thus proving several of Hawking's theories on the properties of black holes!

[Voice for Peace]

43. an infinite loop of citations.

[Ms. Toad]

45. Cute. n/t

[OregonBlue]

12. He's clueless and stupid.

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. The entropy of a black hole is

The Bekenstein-Hawking Formula

where A is the surface area of the event horizon, k is Boltzmann's constant, c is the speed of light, G is the gravitational constant, and is h-bar.


The Black Hole of stupidity is also known as a Cameron which sucks rational thought into another universe known as the banana theory.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

15. If science can't even explain the tides (thanks, O'Reilley)

...then how can we expect science to explain how the universe popped up with the earth at its center almost 6000 years ago? Also, I've always felt that God works through former child stars to explain science, so there's that.

[Contrary1]

16. This headline needs fixin'

[font size=3]Kirk Cameron Attempts to Out-Think Stephen Hawking and Fails Miserably[/font]

That's more like it.

[napkinz]

20. that's funny!

thanks

[Liberal Veteran]

17. Kirk Cameron uses his brain void. It's not very effective. -nt

[SomethingFishy]

18. LMAO.. I followed the links and found this little gem in the "history of insight" link:

20. Although Cameron believes that homosexuality is an "unnatural act," in "necessary circumstances," he advocates anal sex in couples as a means for a woman to avoid losing her virginity before marriage.

[anneboleyn]

21. He's just full of surprises, isn't he? I always hated Growing Pains, except for Leo DiCaprio

who appeared as "Kirk's special troubled friend" in some episodes. Hah. Twenty-five years later...

[catbyte]

19. That was quite the Hawking/Lennon mashup. In the immortal words of

Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon."

[JHB]

23. Hawking should send him a basket of bananas

[theHandpuppet]

26. Are his kids enrolled in public schools?

Let's just hope they're getting a rational view science from somewhere.

[napkinz]

27. what was that song, "She Blinded Me With Science"?

Make that religion!

[Initech]

29. She blinded me with silence!!!

[theHandpuppet]

47. Is that for real??

[JoeyT]

50. Yep.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

[QuestForSense]

30. Great photo!

He's obviously straining his pea-sized brain to the max. Good thing he has all that heart to fall back on.

[Vashta Nerada]

31. This actually happened in May 2011.

TMZ link here: http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/17/kirk-cameron-to-hawking-heaven-does-exist/

Still, Kirk Cameron is batshit insane and he should never challenge Stephen Hawking in anything. He'll just fail miserably.

[Major Nikon]

32. That boy is ate up with the Dunning–Kruger

[deafskeptic]

33. If only I had a brain...

[Warren DeMontague]

37. Yes, because nothing says "Logic" like asserting without evidence the existence of magical beings

Wouldn't it be a scientific impossibility that "God" came from nothing, too?

[Marr]

39. How is it possible, even for a moron like Cameron, to

claim that 'something from nothing' is a laughable impossibility, *while claiming* that a sentient being made himself?

[TBF]

41. That is nowhere near a fair fight! nt

[hatrack]

42. Stupidity and arrogance so dense that even light waves cannot escape!

A duel of wits to which one participant showed up completely unarmed.

[theHandpuppet]

46. I think Kirk crossed the event horizon a long time ago

And there's no comin' back.

[napkinz]

52. this "Kirk" has boldly gone where no MORAN has gone before

[BootinUp]

44. That picture is hilarious

perfect illustration for the story.

[HughBeaumont]

48. Dear God, It's like "Lenski Affair:The Sequel".

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lenski_affair

[RainDog]

51. k&r n/t

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53. From Chuck Norris to Kirk Cameron, Famous ‘Christians’ Say STUPID Things (Videos)

by Simone Sanner
December 30, 2013

While Kirk Cameron seeks to educate us in evolution and “life, the universe, and everything,” we here at AATTP thought we would take a minute from side-splitting laughter to appreciate other crazy famous Christians have said. Long on belief and short on fact, there seems to be a trend where anything goes, as long as you can wrap it up in a homely homily and tie it up with a big Jesus bow. Enjoy some of our favorite quotes ...

Chuck Norris, bemoaning the spread of Atheism online, said, “While you think your kids are innocently surfing the Web, secular progressives are intentionally preying on their innocence and naïveté. What’s preposterous is that atheists are now advertising and soliciting on websites particularly created for teens.” That’s right, folks, Atheists everywhere are stalking your children! There’s a fight over the hearts and minds of your kids! As opposed to Christians’ desire to merely mate with them while they are still young. Jut ask Phil Robertson. ...


Stephen Baldwin shows us his parenting skills with the following statement, “Jesus or no Jesus, if my daughter started working in a strip club, I’d beat her ass.” We find ourselves wondering what he would do if his daughter started batting for Team Lesbian. Baldwin also used the bully pulpit on ‘Big Brother UK’ to preach about evolution. Watch here while Richard Dawkins hands Baldwin a steaming pile of shutthehellup.

Kirk Cameron has a novel way to eat…or is this food snorting? We’re not sure. We just think it’s kinda weird. “Put your nose into the Bible everyday. It is your spiritual food. And then share it.” Shared food snorts. Ew. We wonder what other snorts he shares with his friends. It IS Hollywood, after all.

full article: http://aattp.org/from-chuck-norris-to-kirk-cameron-famous-christians-say-stupid-things-videos/

[panader0]

54. Somebody slip that guy some acid....

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55. Fewer Republicans Believe In Evolution Now Than In 2009

By Luke Johnson
12/30/2013

Significantly fewer Republicans believe in evolution now than in 2009, according to a Pew Research Survey released Monday.

In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans believed that humans had evolved over time, but a survey conducted in March and April 2013 found that just 43 percent now thought so. The percentage of Democrats who believe that humans evolved over time was relatively unchanged between the two surveys: 64 percent said so in 2009, and 67 percent in 2013.

Several prominent Republicans have questioned the theory of evolution and claimed that it is controversial among scientists. Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), during a failed presidential run, said that evolution was "a theory that's out there" and has "some gaps in it." Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) contended that "hundreds and hundreds" of scientists with Nobel Prizes believe in intelligent design. However, Mitt Romney, the GOP's 2012 presidential nominee, said that he believes in evolution.

Overall, the Pew survey found that 60 percent of Americans think humans and other living things evolved, while 33 percent think humans and other living things have "existed in their present form since the beginning of time."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/30/republicans-evolution_n_4519550.html?ncid=txtlnkushpmg00000037