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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 01:21 AM Dec 2013

Safeway Skewered for Throwing 6,000 Workers Under the Bus in Video Parody -

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Submitted by Robert Oak on December 28, 2013 - 4:45pm

Safeway closed a whopping 72 Dominick's grocery stores resulting in 6,000 jobs lost. They acquired Dominck's grocery chain and promptly shuttered the Illinois neighborhood grocery. The excuse is these Dominick's grocery stores serve low profit margin geographical locations. In other words, Safeway doesn't want to offer grocery access to poor people. Of course a hedge fund is involved and executives made huge bucks from the introduction of another predatory hedge fund into the Safeway shareholder mix while workers got pink slips right at Christmas.

Dominick's was founded by one man, an immigrant named Dominick DiMatteo, whose son helped him build the grocery chain. But unraveling the question of who was responsible for the demise of Chicago's second-largest supermarket company isn't so straightforward. The trail leads to Northern California, where Dominick's owner, Safeway, is headquartered. And from there it goes to New York. This year, a Wall Street hedge fund called Jana Partners invested more than $300 million in Safeway stock and demanded that the company make changes, notably that it exit "subscale and lower margin geographies." That demand was made public Sept. 17.

About three weeks later, on Oct. 10, Safeway announced that its struggling chain of more than 70 Dominick's stores would be shuttered Dec. 28. The decision meant as many as 6,000 employees could lose their jobs right after Christmas, and that customers who shopped at Dominick's stores throughout the Chicago region would need to find other places to buy groceries. In the meantime, Jana Partners scored millions in profits on its Safeway investment.

In response workers made an outrageously creative video thanking Safeway for their unbridled greed and disregard for Dominick's workers. The video creator was suspended from his job on the day he would be fired anyway. That is hilarious, yes, they disciplined the poor worker bee as Safeway was shuttering the store. The below must watch video is amazingly well done and just freakin' funny! Great job grocery bag boy no longer! What we also have here is yet another fine example of the underemployed in America.




I guess like in a "It's a Wonderful Life", they are going to get to find out what the world of work is like without them...what a present to bring home to the family.

Merry Xmas, Safeway., here.

Oh yeah. This also takes out a several places where people with low-incomes bought food. So now their expenses increase, and some may not eat as frequently.

Thanks Safeway. And you can't suspend me, you selfish assholes.

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Safeway Skewered for Throwing 6,000 Workers Under the Bus in Video Parody - (Original Post) jtuck004 Dec 2013 OP
K&R. It shows how many workers are employed below their skill level, too. El_Johns Dec 2013 #1
Absolutely n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #2
Wow! What a good job for a short film. icymist Dec 2013 #3
I'd like to see it get an award, maybe a Sundance award. It is very original and it expresses JDPriestly Dec 2013 #10
Private equity firms have pulled this shit on Safeway before jmowreader Dec 2013 #4
Private equity firms hold over 1 in 10 American jobs in their greasy little palms... n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #8
Interview with creator of that video...worked at Dominick's for 8 yrs ... countryjake Dec 2013 #5
Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #11
You can do that on a smartphone? No wonder everything is going mobile. I might have jtuck004 Dec 2013 #12
Somebody at YouTube commented that there's an app for that... countryjake Dec 2013 #16
See my post at #17. It's a business plan, a pre-conceived model that does this to these people on jtuck004 Dec 2013 #18
Ha! I've already read that! countryjake Dec 2013 #20
Kosman's site - http://www.joshkosman.com/ - for anyone that is interested. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #22
What is it with businesses always tending to lay off workers around Christmas? gtar100 Dec 2013 #6
It's because of Tax laws dickthegrouch Dec 2013 #39
K&r Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #7
Safeway used to be a decent job to have, but not any more. Their management is soo fucked up, NBachers Dec 2013 #9
Last time they had a strike . . . aggiesal Dec 2013 #13
Yeah, the ones who've been there for a long time put up with so much harrassment and abuse NBachers Dec 2013 #14
There's more than just a little bit wrong with that story. WillowTree Dec 2013 #15
I don't know anything about them in particular, but the way this typically goes with private equity jtuck004 Dec 2013 #17
Isn't that the way Rmoney does business? countryjake Dec 2013 #19
And The Blackstone Group, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, Carlyle Group, several others. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #21
Might want to stick to things that you do know about "in particular". WillowTree Dec 2013 #23
I know enough not to make excuses for thieving bastards. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #24
Whatever. WillowTree Dec 2013 #26
Speaking of huffy HangOnKids Dec 2013 #48
+1 countryjake Dec 2013 #32
Did Wall Street firm seal Dominick's fate? jtuck004 Dec 2013 #25
".......apparently, there weren't too many stores before the pirates arrived" WillowTree Dec 2013 #27
A relevant particular: The Dominick's at Lincoln and Farragut was completely rebuilt in 2008-2009 alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #51
Inside the Private Equity Game (2009) - This is why they lost their jobs... jtuck004 Dec 2013 #28
Jana Partners Reduces Stake in Safeway - after they pushed for this layoff and made $$$. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #29
every time I read something like this onethatcares Dec 2013 #30
15 years is "promptly"? hack89 Dec 2013 #31
Jana Partners, which has successfully pushed for breakups of McGraw-HillMHFI +0.36% jtuck004 Dec 2013 #33
The were a failing business well before that hack89 Dec 2013 #34
Thieving bastards swoop in and pick the bones of the people who do the work, for a profit, yes. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #35
Wait a minute, are you siding with the Banksters? n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #40
No. nt hack89 Dec 2013 #41
Part of the problem from what I've read is that Safeway didn't own the properties Dominicks sat on. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2013 #36
If that was your goal it would make sense. That's not the case here. Jana, or another private jtuck004 Dec 2013 #42
Sure. It would have been far better....... WillowTree Dec 2013 #44
I'm not sure we're on the same wavelength here. Dominicks was for sale. In whole or in part. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2013 #45
Word is....... WillowTree Dec 2013 #46
k&r... spanone Dec 2013 #37
K&R - Well done! myrna minx Dec 2013 #38
Say what? BobUp Dec 2013 #43
Yeah, that wasn't expressed well. Dominicks had stores in both low and high income areas. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2013 #47
In the early BobUp Dec 2013 #49
I agree with the main point of the article alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #50
Actually, I think that came from the Jana fund wording as they pushed to get rid of these jobs... jtuck004 Dec 2013 #52
Well, it was the writer's attempt to turn the Jana fund wording into the reason for the closings alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #53
It was the thieving scumbags at Jana and Safeway, but it's clear that not everyone jtuck004 Dec 2013 #54
Like I said, I agree with the main point, but the OP is false in numerous ways alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #55
Actually, with regard to the Dominick's closings....... WillowTree Dec 2013 #56

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. I'd like to see it get an award, maybe a Sundance award. It is very original and it expresses
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:23 AM
Dec 2013

a truth about the reality of our time so that people can understand it.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
4. Private equity firms have pulled this shit on Safeway before
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:34 AM
Dec 2013

In the 1980s Henry Kravis bought Safeway and first thing he did was close all the stores in small towns.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
5. Interview with creator of that video...worked at Dominick's for 8 yrs ...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:40 AM
Dec 2013

Man suspended on last day of work at Dominick's for "Safeway Parody" video

http://video.wgntv.com/Man-suspended-on-last-day-of-work-at-Dominicks-for-Safeway-Parody-video--25479485?playlistId=12245

Across Chicagoland dozens of Dominick's stores closed for good and set more than 6,000 employees out of work. Steve Yamamoto, eight years at Dominick's himself, Saturday, got suspended just minutes after walking in for the final hours, because of what he put on YouTube. Source: WGN - Chicago

The story:
http://wgntv.com/2013/12/28/chicagoland-dominicks-stores-close-their-doors-for-the-last-time/
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
12. You can do that on a smartphone? No wonder everything is going mobile. I might have
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:35 AM
Dec 2013

to buy one and create a movie.

He's sharp though, and if anyone stands a chance, he does. But the 30-40 year workers are just trash. 26 weeks of unemployment and on the street.

Suicide rates are now, and have been since 2010, higher than automobile deaths from accidents, and the increase that brought us that is solely the increase in numbers of the 50-65 crowd.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
16. Somebody at YouTube commented that there's an app for that...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:55 AM
Dec 2013

and I guess Smartphones can download apps? FX guru or something like that?

I wouldn't even know, never had any cellphones.


Yeah, I really liked how he expressed sympathy for his fellow workers with decades of seniority. After years of dedicated service to a company, it's a damn shame to have to end up as a greeter at Walmart (or worse). The rise in suicide rates for those nearing retirement age is a reflection of this nation's priorities.

(disclaimer: I have two very close friends who were freezing inside the doors of a Walmart, as greeters, due to losing good, well-paying jobs elsewhere, right before they were preparing to retire. Nothing wrong with greeters, but it's a shitty job.)

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
18. See my post at #17. It's a business plan, a pre-conceived model that does this to these people on
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:05 AM
Dec 2013

purpose, in the name of profit.

It's no accident. The workers here have been in a war for over 40 years, with the enemy picking them off at will, while they don't even realize they are targets.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
6. What is it with businesses always tending to lay off workers around Christmas?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:43 AM
Dec 2013

It's become a Holiday tradition nowadays. Not that there is any good time to get laid off but it's especially insulting and uncaring around the holiday season in which the general drift is to show generosity of spirit.

dickthegrouch

(3,175 posts)
39. It's because of Tax laws
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:07 PM
Dec 2013

The business has to pay the annual Corporation Tax if it exists beyond the 31st December. It may have to renew various licenses, business permits, insurance and all sorts of other expenditures that aren't sustainable given the income level.
You have to file all the paperwork before the last business day of the year. The last few weeks of any year see lots of businesses have to weigh the cost of continuing against the cost of winding up.

I'm not condoning it, just answering the question.

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
9. Safeway used to be a decent job to have, but not any more. Their management is soo fucked up,
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:03 AM
Dec 2013

incompetent, and petty. The poor workers used to have good jobs, but now Safeway is a horrible mess. It's too bad.

I never cross the picket line when they're on strike.

I shop at local co-ops and farmer's markets. I do very little Safeway shopping any more. The stores just don't feel good to walk into these days.

aggiesal

(8,919 posts)
13. Last time they had a strike . . .
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:42 AM
Dec 2013

the unions negotiated a 2 tiered salary structure, claiming
that they needed to compete with Walmart Super Stores.

Then Safeway proceeded to get rid of most of the upper
tiered salary employees.

At the Von's in So. Cal (owned by Safeway) the checkers
are now mostly in their late teens/early 20's getting paid
the lower tiered salaries.

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
14. Yeah, the ones who've been there for a long time put up with so much harrassment and abuse
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:47 AM
Dec 2013

Management is trying very hard to drive them out of their jobs. It takes a strong, fighting will to hold up against all that.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
15. There's more than just a little bit wrong with that story.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:51 AM
Dec 2013

Don't misunderstand. I think the timing of the closings stinks and I feel terrible for the many long-time Dominick's employees. But the above story is misleading, to say the least.

First of all, the fact that Safeway has owned the Dominick's chain since 1998 gives lie to the contention that "They acquired Dominck's [sic] grocery chain and promptly shuttered the Illinois neighborhood grocery". Fifteen years isn't exactly "prompt".

Additionally, I'm not sure who decided that Dominick's stores were predominantly located in poorer areas of Chicagoland, but that's simply not the case. They were situated all over.......wherever you would find a Jewel store, you can be sure there would be a Dominick's not far off.

One of the reasons why the stores ceased to be profitable was that they couldn't compete with other local stores price-wise. For several years now I only shopped there on Fridays, and then only if there was something I needed or wanted on the page in their ad that featured loss-leader $5 Friday specials. If there wasn't anything there that interested me, I didn't even bother looking at the rest of the ad because their prices were just too high overall. Oh, there was one exception to that. In the fall they had the most fantastic carmel apples that were made in-house and I'd sometimes stop in for one of those. Otherwise, Dominick's weren't on my agenda.

Dominick's was trying to be more upscale, actually. After Safeway bought them, they built almost all new, bigger stores with fancier fixtures and décor and more "ambiance". I actually knew a few people who enjoyed shopping there because the stores were definitely less utilitarian. Most, however, preferred better pricing to décor. Many, myself included, like Meijer, or even a newish chain in the area called Ultra Foods which pretty much maintain a warehouse atmosphere, but are competitive insofar as selection is concerned and which offer a significant savings at the register. Target and WalMart putting full-scale grocery sections in many of their stores added even more competition and Dominick's just couldn't compete anymore.

Stores in lower-income neighborhoods may well have been losing money, but if that was the main reason behind the decision, they could have just closed those stores. Locations like Lake Bluff and Bannockburn and Naperville and Shaumburg and Lake in the Hills and Glen Ellyn and Wheaton and Crystal Lake and so many others where Dominick's had stores are all far, far from "low profit margin geographical locations" and would have certainly have remained open if that was the primary reason for closings. The fact is that, overall, the Dominick's most recent business model just made them non-competitive in general.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
17. I don't know anything about them in particular, but the way this typically goes with private equity
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:01 AM
Dec 2013

is that they make an acquisition, use debt to pump up the gross, maybe even put in some new fixtures and pretend they are doing some kind of mgmt.

Their goal is to keep a good chunk of that money that was borrowed - they call the stolen money "fees" - and if they can sell the acquisition, or make money, cool. If they can't they throw all the employees in the trash and shutter the place.

(Good book out there by Josh Kosman on this - literally tens of millions of jobs up in smoke because of the greed of these profiteering bastards.)

The end of the story leaves the suits with millions in their pockets, and the employees working in McDonalds or chewing the end of a .38.

Fuck the owners of Safeway. And Staples/Mi$$ RobMe, (I try to never miss that one) and all the other bastards that pursue this underhanded business model. There is no difference between them and people who bomb little children with nerve gas that leaves them writhing in pain before they die, and they should be treated the same way.


 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
21. And The Blackstone Group, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, Carlyle Group, several others.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:13 AM
Dec 2013

These people lost their jobs, and may lose their lives, by design. It wasn't just "the market". That's the story they pay the cheerleaders to foist on the fools, to keep the workers in the field from storming the house and burning it down.

Because if these people ever realize that these businesses, and their politicians (from both sides of the aisle) are in bed with each other and working 24x7 to take everything they have, that the policies we are seeing written are to our detriment, things might just start to shake a little.

But so far, they have our minds, and that's the best and only weapon they need to keep themselves safe, fat, and happy.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
23. Might want to stick to things that you do know about "in particular".
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:22 AM
Dec 2013

The stores were re-built and, in some cases, just remodeled ten to twelve years ago. This hedge fund got involved within the last year or so.

An area, even one as large and diverse as the metropolitan Chicago area, can only support so many grocery stores. We have Jewel and Meijer and Aldi and Ultra chains, and now Target and WalMart are in the mix, and don't forget that Costco and Sam's Club have groceries, and now we have a couple of new chains, Fresh Market and Mariano's, are growing in the area. As I said before, Dominick's just wasn't competitive anymore and, be it Safeway corporate or the hedge fund or both making the decision, exiting the Chicago market was a good business decision. Heartbreaking for the employees, but it was inevitable. Just a matter of when in this case.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
26. Whatever.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:34 AM
Dec 2013

You started out by saying that you weren't familiar with the particulars of this specific case, but now you're all huffy and sure of yourself despite the facts.

While often it really is lyin', thievin' bastards shitting on the Little Guy, it doesn't change the fact that sometimes, you really do need to "know when to fold 'em". This was one of those times, from a smart business perspective. The fact that you refuse to believe that doesn't make it untrue.

Enjoy your day.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
25. Did Wall Street firm seal Dominick's fate?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:33 AM
Dec 2013

Dominick's was founded by one man, an immigrant named Dominick DiMatteo, whose son helped him build the grocery chain. But unraveling the question of who was responsible for the demise of Chicago's second-largest supermarket company isn't so straightforward. The trail leads to Northern California, where Dominick's owner, Safeway, is headquartered. And from there it goes to New York.
This year, a Wall Street hedge fund called Jana Partners invested more than $300 million in Safeway stock and demanded that the company make changes, notably that it exit "subscale and lower margin geographies."

That demand was made public Sept. 17.

About three weeks later, on Oct. 10, Safeway announced that its struggling chain of more than 70 Dominick's stores would be shuttered Dec. 28. The decision meant as many as 6,000 employees could lose their jobs right after Christmas, and that customers who shopped at Dominick's stores throughout the Chicago region would need to find other places to buy groceries.

In the meantime, Jana Partners scored millions in profits on its Safeway investment.
...


I wonder how much of those millions they gave back to the people that earned them, the people who put in 30 or 40 years to make them a profit, who will now wind up in poverty as they spend down their retirement plans.

here.

Speaking of things one knows about, maybe it was thieving bastards stealing money by ruining people's lives for profit. Because. apparently, there weren't too many stores before the pirates arrived.


WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
27. ".......apparently, there weren't too many stores before the pirates arrived"
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:38 AM
Dec 2013

Where did you get that demonstrably inaccurate little scrap of information?

And by the way, the Trib article that you link to includes this, which pretty much supports what I've been saying:

"Safeway had "been performing very poorly in Chicago, and the problems date back to almost immediately after they bought" Dominick's in 1998, said Meredith Adler, who follows Safeway as an analyst for Barclays Capital. 'I will not make a whole list of the things they screwed up. But they screwed up a lot of things.'"

It is what it is, despite your snark.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
51. A relevant particular: The Dominick's at Lincoln and Farragut was completely rebuilt in 2008-2009
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:05 AM
Dec 2013

It is now shuttered, with no prospective replacement. A completely new building. It'll sit empty, I suppose.

I agree with you in this thread; the OP makes a lot of false claims that nobody who lives in Chicago could take seriously - and it's bizarre, because exaggeration isn't needed to critique Safeway's behavior here.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
28. Inside the Private Equity Game (2009) - This is why they lost their jobs...
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:42 AM
Dec 2013




And here is a description of the people who make excuses for them, people who would work harder to save the Master's house from a fire than their own, instead of working to support their country and their neighbors.






 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
29. Jana Partners Reduces Stake in Safeway - after they pushed for this layoff and made $$$.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:14 AM
Dec 2013


...
Jana Partners, which has successfully pushed for breakups of McGraw-HillMHFI +0.36% and Marathon PetroleumMPC -0.46%, purchased its initial stake in the supermarket chain in September. Jana said in a regulatory filing at the time that its representatives spoke with Safeway about cutting stores and returning capital to investors.

Since Jana bought the shares, Safeway has said it will exit the Chicago market and sell its 72 Dominick’s grocery stores there.

Safeway’s shares are up more than 20% since Jana announced its stake but dropped more than 2% in after hours-trading Wednesday following the filing.

Jana Partners, with roughly $7 billion under management, has had an impressive run this year. Jana’s two main funds gained 16.6% and 25.4% through the end of November, according to a source familiar with the fund."
...

here.

$7 billion under mgmt, with 2% of that as fees to put in their pocket, no matter what happens, as they end the careers of people who have worked in these places 30-40 years. 6000 people laid off in just one of their little plays...and that's just one of them. And that doesn't count the money they make from the stock manipulation, or the sales of assets.

It isn't "market competition" that causes the layoffs, the human tragedy these scumbags leave in their wake in the multiple deals they do.

It's greed.


onethatcares

(16,173 posts)
30. every time I read something like this
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:46 AM
Dec 2013

I am reminded of the movie, "Goodfellas".

Our country has devolved to legalized racketeering and corruption, with laws being passed to assure the

dons don't have to serve any time but they do get all the money.

Now, back to the Duck Dynasty contrived contraversy

hack89

(39,171 posts)
31. 15 years is "promptly"?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:22 AM
Dec 2013

Their market share fell 10% over that period - they have been steadily closing stores for years.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
33. Jana Partners, which has successfully pushed for breakups of McGraw-HillMHFI +0.36%
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:57 AM
Dec 2013

and Marathon PetroleumMPC -0.46%, purchased its initial stake in the supermarket chain in September. Jana said in a regulatory filing at the time that its representatives spoke with Safeway about cutting stores and returning capital to investors.

And announced the closing of 72 stores within a month...

Good money was made all around, picked from the bones of the employees.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
34. The were a failing business well before that
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 12:30 PM
Dec 2013

Companies chop failing business all the time. They were in a very competitive market and had lost nearly half their market share.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
35. Thieving bastards swoop in and pick the bones of the people who do the work, for a profit, yes. n/t
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 12:47 PM
Dec 2013

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,842 posts)
36. Part of the problem from what I've read is that Safeway didn't own the properties Dominicks sat on.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 01:05 PM
Dec 2013

If another chain wanted to give it a go at the same locations, a Marianos, TJ's, or Whole Foods, for instance, given they'd want to do much more than just put up a new sign on the building, seems like they'd have to ask themselves why they'd want to buy all or part of the Dominicks chain when they can probably swoop in later, cut a deal with the landlord, and maybe even pick up Dominick's fixtures at fire sale prices?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
42. If that was your goal it would make sense. That's not the case here. Jana, or another private
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:33 PM
Dec 2013

equity firm sees assets which they can make money on in a short-term deal. In this case they buy into Safeway and use their bargaining power to dump all the employees of that prior acquisition. They profit from the short term increase one gets in the stock (Which they dumped shortly after getting into this), as well as the 2% fees from the $7 billion they have under "management" (The money they use to go around disrupting people's lives for short-term profit), more profit from the tax treatment...

Pirates have no interest in the long-term, or the people whose lives they destroy. All they care about is amassing a few million $$$. If it costs you and your co-workers everything you've ever worked for, well, they don't even think about you at all. At all.

It's like keeping a bank account with borrowed money, paying y0oruself a salary from it, and using the balance to buy things from grieving widows who either don't know what the "things" are worth or are so overcome by grief that they are easily taken advantage of. You then re-sell the stuff, and not only do you get to keep any profit but you have also conveniently arranged with the government to give you preferred tax treatment on the money you borrow and make. Whether your deals turn out or not, you still make lots of money, and leave misery in your wake.

Now blow that model up to life-size and substitute Simmons mattress, Dominick's Foods, or any one of hundreds of other businesses, some of which were places that people here used to work at for the grieving widower. Yes, any day they could have sold off their stuff and ruined themselves, but didn't. Not only because they need a job 10 years from now, and didn't go to school and prepare just to wake up after 30 years of working somewhere to hand their job to someone in a foreign country that would do it for ten cents on the dollar, but also because the government doesn't give them the same tax advantages for burning all their assets that is given to the thieving private equity companies.

They don't care about you, your business, or your country. All they care about is putting profits in their pocket, and, frankly, you could burn to the ground and die with your family and friends for all they care.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
44. Sure. It would have been far better.......
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:24 PM
Dec 2013

.......to just keep trying to tough it out with a brand that wasn't making it in the Chicago area anymore and jeopardize the whole company and the jobs of their other 165,000 employees. Safeway's business model was never a big success in the Chicago market for a variety of reasons. They came to realize that and tried to sell the Dominick's chain ten years or so ago. When they couldn't find a buyer, they decided to try to make a go of it rather than just shut everything down back then, but it hasn't worked and, as those of us who know the area have been saying, they've been losing market share little by little ever since. Jann may have given Safeway the impetus to make this move now, but it was coming one way of the other.

It's almost humorous the way you think you know more about this situation than those of us who live here and have seen Dominick's struggling for years now.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,842 posts)
45. I'm not sure we're on the same wavelength here. Dominicks was for sale. In whole or in part.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 06:33 PM
Dec 2013

A few stores were sold and will remain open though I don't know under what name ultimately. The rest closed and Safeway will get nothing except what they can unload at auction or something. In my post I'm just suggesting Safeway would have had an easier time selling the chain (and keeping the workers working) if there was real estate involved.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
46. Word is.......
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:22 PM
Dec 2013

.......that Mariano's is going to move in to 11 of the closing Dominick's stores and Whole Foods will be taking over 7 or 8 of them. I also read somewhere that Jewel may be taking over a few of their buildings, but I don't know if those will be new stores or just moving existing stores into the newer, formerly Dominick's locations. They will all need to be staffed, so some of the displaced Dominick's employees will no doubt be able to find jobs in those stores. Also, Mariano's and Fresh Market are opening other new stores, too, so hopefully those stores will be able to take some of them on, as well.

BobUp

(347 posts)
43. Say what?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:53 PM
Dec 2013

Low incomes bought food @ Doms? I find that hard to believe. Anyone who has ever shopped at Doms knows their prices are out of this world, comparable to shopping Jewel or Albertsons, higher than hell. Most of us poor folks shop Aldi foods.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,842 posts)
47. Yeah, that wasn't expressed well. Dominicks had stores in both low and high income areas.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:06 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure they adjusted their prices and offerings by neighborhood, just like Jewel.

BobUp

(347 posts)
49. In the early
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:09 AM
Dec 2013

2000's, we had a brand new Jewel store in my city, Kenosha, and we loved their deals on sirloin and chuck steaks, unfortunately, they moved out after only operating for a few years. Pushed out by competition from Super-Valu, Piggly Wiggly ? I don't know. It was definitely a change though, probably the first Jewel in Wisconsin?

Local Walmart commercials kill me though, they brag on how much you can save by shopping there over Jewel, well of course, they're in direct competition with other food stores.

When we lived in Chicago, my mom & dad shopped Doms, but their favorite place to shop was Maxwell Street and Randolph Street, back in the old days.

You could find anything and everything you needed on Maxwell Street. Canned goods, paper products, vegetables, meats, small appliances, fishing poles, and just about anything you needed. As it goes, everything from soup to nuts.








Albertsons and SuperValu[edit]
Albertsons acquired American Stores' holdings, including Jewel and Jewel-Osco stores, in 1999.[9]

Seven years later, parent company Albertsons and its stores would be taken over by two separate groups. On May 30, 2006, shareholders approved the break-up of Albertsons. All Jewel-Osco and Jewel Food Stores outside of Springfield, Illinois were now wholly owned by SuperValu. The Springfield stores, meanwhile, were acquired by an investment group led by Cerberus Capital Management. Both of those have since been sold to Niemann Foods, an independent operator of grocery stores, supermarkets and convenience stores in Central Illinois which now operates them under the Cub Foods–County Market brand. All free-standing Osco drugstores are now owned by CVS Pharmacy. The Osco name is still used for pharmacies within Albertsons, Jewel, Star Market and Shaw's.

SuperValu announced on January 5, 2007, that it would offer for sale its Jewel-Osco stores in the Milwaukee area.[10] Pick 'n Save agreed to take five of the 15 stores.[11] Two other stores were purchased by Lena's Food Market.[12] SuperValu announced to its workers that the remaining stores, if unsold, would close at the end of March.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_(supermarket)
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
50. I agree with the main point of the article
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:47 AM
Dec 2013

But some parts of it are odd:

"The excuse is these Dominick's grocery stores serve low profit margin geographical locations."

Dominick's stores were a major grocery chain, not a "neighborhood" grocery. They also weren't exclusively or even mainly located in "low profit margin geographical locations." They were spread throughout the city, and even in the suburbs. There was a Dominick's that just closed on Green Bay Road near Kenilworth, for instance - Kenilworth being one of the richest "geographical areas" in the United States. There was one on Fullerton and Sheffield in Lincoln Park, hardly a poor food desert! There was one on Southport near Wrigleyville - again, massive net worth and 2 million dollar houses in every direction. The sentence is simply and demonstrably false. There's no need for such exaggerations to make the case here.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
52. Actually, I think that came from the Jana fund wording as they pushed to get rid of these jobs...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:17 AM
Dec 2013

"This year, a Wall Street hedge fund called Jana Partners invested more than $300 million in Safeway stock and demanded that the company make changes, notably that it exit "subscale and lower margin geographies. That demand was made public Sept. 17."

It was in one of the links...

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
53. Well, it was the writer's attempt to turn the Jana fund wording into the reason for the closings
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:27 AM
Dec 2013

That it is demonstrably false leads one to believe that th writer's claims are a bit exaggerated. Perhaps they closed the stores because they were "subscale," for instance (i.e., performing badly in a business sense), rather than because they "serve(d) low profit margin geographical locations" (these are, in fact, the writer's words, not Jana's - it's right there in your OP.

So, the writer has transformed two possible reasons into one, then packaged Dominick's as if it was some savior serving the poor in Chicago food deserts, only to be stomped out by the drooling, evil hedge fund. The problem is that this simply doesn't reflect the reality of what people who actually live in Chicago know (I'm guessing you don't live anywhere near here): Dominick's was not a small grocery store serving the poor that was hijacked and crushed by a hedge fund. It was a massive grocery store chain operating throughout Chicagoland (including its richest areas) that was struggling to compete with new market entrants (Whole Foods, Mariano's), traditional competitors (Jewel/Osco), low-cost alternatives (Aldi), and the occasional hipster joints (Trader Joe's).

By the way, we have/had a Dominick's store two blocks away from my house. I drive a mile to the Jewel or Mariano's, because that Dominick's store absolutely SUCKED. Maybe that's why their business failed.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
54. It was the thieving scumbags at Jana and Safeway, but it's clear that not everyone
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:34 AM
Dec 2013

is all that picky about who they pal around with, if the money's good.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
55. Like I said, I agree with the main point, but the OP is false in numerous ways
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:39 AM
Dec 2013

And demonstrably so.

Dominick's was not a neighborhood grocery that served the poor. That's just silly, and false, and everyone who lives in or around Chicago knows it. Indeed, the major pushback you've gotten on this thread is from Chicagoans giving you the "Oh, come on!" about the more laughable claims in the OP. Pretty much everyone disputing your point is a Chicago or Chicagoland person challenging the particulars of the OP. There's a reason for that: they're not true.

You don't need to descend into silly to make your point. The fact that the writer you cite in the OP twists the truth so blatantly and obviously makes his or her argument less effective.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
56. Actually, with regard to the Dominick's closings.......
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:35 PM
Dec 2013

.......I think the term "low profit margin geographies" as used by Jana (if, indeed, that was their wording) had less to do in this instance with the economics of the neighborhoods served by the chain and more to do with the fact that the Safeway-owned stores in the metropolitan Chicago area (geographical location) were showing a low profit margin. Which anyone who's familiar with the facts of this situation knows was definitely the case.

I work in the I-88/Naperville corridor and sometimes do some shopping at lunchtime at Danada which serves the Wheaton/Naperville/Glen Ellyn juncture, hardly a low income area, and where the Dominick's and the Jewel stores are/were literally directly across the street from each other and I will say that the Dominick's there had a definite advantage in that, if you were in a hurry, you could get in and out of that store more quickly because both the store itself and the parking lot were so much less crowded. Yet the Jewel store, despite it's less-than-optimal parking lot layout, is always busy. And that was the case with the stores across from one another on south Naper Blvd. and the ones a block apart on Roosevelt Rd. in Glen Ellyn and elsewhere.

The fact is that Dominick's, once one of the two biggest grocery chains in the Chicago area, has been a dying enterprise for years, notably and progressively since Safeway bought them and started messing with the brand 15 years ago. While I do believe that Jana's involvement was the impetus for the closings happening now, the cold hard fact is that they would have happened with or without them within the near foreseeable future anyway (which is, no doubt, behind why Jana would have made the recommendation in the first place).

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