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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOoooh--just stoped my fundy relatives in their tracks!
* SMACK! * They were sitting around the living room after dinner (we just had our family Christmas dinner for ones who couldn't be here Christmas day), and the subject of illegal immigrants came up. They were complaining that illegals were here getting government "handouts," and the rest of the usual RW crap. I finally got tired of it, and very innocently asked, "Wasn't Jesus once an illegal immigrant?"
They changed the subject mighty fast!
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(556 posts)niyad
(113,347 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)I'm pretty sure he didn't have a visa.
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)and she was filthy rich. I wonder if it was her since she was one of the religious zealots?
I've only driven through Dime Box a couple of times though.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)BTW, there is also an Old Dime Box about six miles down the road.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Friendly town names, anyone???
I've been to Bald Knob, Arkansas, but haven't been through Hot Coffee, Mississippi.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)As far as I can tell the entire economy is based on selling novelty t shirts to people driving past on I-5.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)You may have seen the green city sign saying "HELL" with icicles hanging off it.
We in Texas have Hempstead and Hemphill.
The main NW highway out of Houston to Austin is Hempstead Highway, going to the town. Then they turned it into a freeway called 290 (not 420, dammit!)
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)That's the joke I heard, and I don't live anywhere near Pennsylvania.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)lastlib
(23,248 posts)(I'm pretty sure......)
jdadd
(1,314 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)it's a little embarrassing.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)ladyVet
(1,587 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Blanket Statements
(556 posts)Pretend that the crossing into Egypt was as illegal as the family's settlement in Nazarene. I'm unaware of citizen requirements in Israel or restriction of movement under Roman rule but...there must be a story
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)somewhere in Arizona before he got a green card?
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)lastlib
(23,248 posts)...you'll have to look up the rest of the story, I'm not that up on it. But I assume that they were in Egypt without permission.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Egypt and Judea were both part of the Roman Empire. People traveled between the provinces regularly.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)...And for the esoterically inclined, you could toss in his years studying with the masters in India.
legcramp
(288 posts)on the part of your fundy relatives.
It may not have been for the reason you think it was though.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)That was another country.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)part of the empire after the Cleo?
Just askin...
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)that he was not "an outsider" who did not belong there.
http://christiandifferent.com/2008/05/14/seek-the-kingdom-towards-jesus-christ-immigrant/
I do not know how the different parts of the Roman Empire were treated in Jesus' day, but they were not all considered "Rome". But I do know that Egypt was a foreign land to them. Even the Romans still had separate names for all the nations that they conquered, so I would guess that people who were not from a particular area were immigrants. Illegal immigrants, I am not able to say for sure, but I bet Herod would have thought so since they fled to a nation that did not have the decree to kill him.
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:04 AM - Edit history (1)
Pope Francis blessed the 'Jesus the Homeless' sculpture:VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- A year ago, Timothy Schmalz's bronze sculpture "Jesus the Homeless" had been rejected by St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York and St. Michael's Cathedral in Toronto.
But in late November, Pope Francis blessed the sculpture at one of his weekly general audiences in front of thousands of eager pilgrims. The pontiff touched the knee of the sculpture and prayed for a few moments. Afterward, he told Schmalz he thought the sculpture was a "beautiful piece of art."
When Schmalz saw Pope Francis touch the sculpture, he said, "I thought well that's just it, this sculpture is symbolically representing what he's doing. He's out there touching the homeless people; he's reaching out to them every single day."
Appropriately, "Jesus the Homeless" may have found a permanent home in Rome, very close to the Vatican. The plan is for the sculpture to be placed close to the Vatican Radio offices near the Tiber River in memory of a homeless woman who slept there every night before dying outside in the cold...
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1305240.htm
to grits.
Do they support public funding for housing for the homeless, food stamps, unemployment benefits to keep people becoming homeless?
And there's the Bible verse:
Jesus said to him: The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. ~ Luke 9:58
I've read some conservative revision of Jesus that say his being a carpenter meant he was well off, also that he had a robe made of one piece showed he was wealthy. Uh, huh...
The idea of a hungry, homeless man is an offense to them, they can't tell the truth about Jesus. They want to judge and abuse.
And Jesus was, dare we say, giving out that free food and free healthcare. I'd say the jig is up.
Oh, and there are some mighty fine verses in the Old Testamant to thump them with... About not mistreating the 'alien' within your borders, as you (the Hebrews) were aliens.
They are in trouble now.
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Arger68
(679 posts)once. She was saying something about "illegals" and I just said "who would Jesus deport?" She shut up and changed the subject immediately.
Gun!
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)but there is no one listening. I worked at a business in Houston that had mostly illegal Mexican workers. I did the payroll. These guys were not using their own SS numbers, since they didn't have one. But we took payroll taxes from them just the same as from everyone else.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)lastlib
(23,248 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)The new documentation of identity requirements make it harder for illegal immigrants, who are not eligible, to defraud the government.