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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust throwing out there: Something about sexism occurred to me yesterday.
Sexism and misogyny continues to flourish strongly mostly at the lower end of the socio-economic ladder because women serve as unpaid domestic servants for poorer men. Affluent men can pay for domestic help and other personal services, but poor men do not have that ability. Thus, subjugating females (who biologically are physically weaker, on average) is one of the few means they have of effortlessly improving their standards of living.
Your thoughts?
yardwork
(61,715 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Makes him a double eff-up, I suppose.
Skittles
(153,226 posts)ESPECIALLY men
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)Swamp Lover
(431 posts)I know of no study to suggest the accuracy of the premise, although everyone short of resources is more at risk to the ravages of abuse. This is true regardless of sex.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Maybe that's the underlying question here.
RC
(25,592 posts)The way the person was brought up in the first place, so that's all they know. This applies to both genders. No place to go for the victim.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)1) the stress of poverty leads to violence.
2) the disruption of violence leads to poverty
3) Violence and poverty can have a common root cause.
I think it's safe to reject your basic premise for a very simple reason. Why would a woman volunteer to be conscripted into that kind of arrangement?
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Because being a spinster is even worse?
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)even how poor....I once advised kneecap his ass...hehe
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)It's just what people tend to do if left to their own devices. Some people tend that way more than others. Some learn better and grow out of it, others don't. And then there are the ones who just wallow in it.
on edit: Must remember to proof read. And where is my spellcheck ?
RC
(25,592 posts)At least not in my circles. And at 67, I have seen a lot of circles. Your mileage must vary?
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)Making emotional judgements about others and then using "reason" to validate those judgements is what people tend to do. Liberal, conservative, and all points in between, we all do it. Some do more than others, and some do in more egregious ways than others and some are more objective. Education, personal experience, and individual temperment can affect how we do this. We all have our prejudices, our biases and we tend to protect them. Rude and selfish people, kind and thoughtful people, the indifferent, the insecure, and the unengaged all tend to judge instinctively. Sometimes it's not pretty and so we have racism and misogyny. It's a bit like the old saying "I think the whole world is queer except for thee and me, and sometimes I wonder about thee."
And, I'm 63.
RC
(25,592 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)They don't bust unions or keep women out of Congress or boardrooms. They don't choose who goes on camera.
Poor people mostly try to survive, no matter what gender they are.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I just see far more objectification and disregard for the equality of women among poor men than among rich men.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)You're noticing a difference in class behavior, not in values, imo.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)If you think that misogyny is NOT woven into the very fabric of our society, you need to think again. All the way up and down the chain, from "journalists" for whom "shrill" is a dog whistle, all the way down to the beer-swilling scumbucket who beats his partner because it makes him feel powerful.
If you know four women, chances are you know a victim of abuse.
And abuse is the extreme end of the spectrum. Gender bias is everywhere, if you care to look for it. Just ask any woman with a functioning brain.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)I was in an obusive marriage. I got engaged and moved in with this person at 19 Married at 21. We didn't have allot of money initially but even when economic conditions imporoved the abuse continued. This person had serious mental issues.
I myself have had self esteem issues and continue to battle social anxiety. I think this was one of the reasons I stayed with this person as long as I did. I didn't believe I could make it on my own.
He was a college grad and I had some college. We weren't what I would call poor but the stress of economic pressure did play a role in the abuse at times.
My lack of self esteem and the feeling that there was nothing better for me kept me in a bad situation.
Fortunately things have turned around for me after I left the marriage. Went back to school and have a fairly successful career in the IT field as a System Analyst. I'm also married to a nice guy.
I think economic conditions do play a role. And women with limited economic opportunites are more likely to stay with an abusive partner.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)the ruling class has convinced a lot of men that their plight has more to do with feminism, abortion, contraception, affirmative action, climate change...etc, than the policies foisted on them by the ruling class.