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iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:10 PM Dec 2013

The more things change, (local newspaper article from 1864)

the more they stay the same...

was doing some research.. just for the heck of it.. .and came across the following small piece in one of my local newspapers entitled "The Rich Vs the Poor"

The Rich Vs. the Poor.
We have repeatedly stated that the legislation of the dominant party was aimed in favor of the rich and against the poor man, and that it was the aim of the administration to create a monied aristocracy here the same as exists in England. The New York Times in an article a few days since admits the truth of the charge. It says :
"The property of the wealthy should not be voted away by, or in anyway under the control of the laboring classes, and the right of suffrage should be regulated between the rich and according to their wealth."
We know of a good many mechanics and laborers who will resist manfully the proposition to deprive them of the rights secured to them by the Constitution. This doctrine "take care of the rich and the rich will take care of the poor," has been tried long enough in Europe and has proved an entire failure. Let the laborers of the country beware how they lend aid to any party to enslave them.

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The more things change, (local newspaper article from 1864) (Original Post) iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 OP
We keep having to fight the same battles over and over again. octoberlib Dec 2013 #1
"The property of the wealthy... moondust Dec 2013 #2
this was the turning point in our modern history PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #3
It pisses me off moondust Dec 2013 #4
a lot of nazis iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 #6
Trickle down is much older than St Ronnie, indeed nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #5

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
1. We keep having to fight the same battles over and over again.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:15 PM
Dec 2013

I think this has been going on since Ancient Greece.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
2. "The property of the wealthy...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:34 PM
Dec 2013

should not be voted away by, or in anyway under the control of the laboring classes"

This is what TPTB did about that kind of thing in the 1950s:

In 1953, (Allen) Dulles was involved, along with Frank Wisner,[16][page needed] in Operation Ajax, the covert operation that led to the removal of Mohammad Mossadeq, prime minister of Iran, and his replacement with Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran...due to the nationalization of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (currently known as BP).

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President Jacobo Arbenz Guzman of Guatemala was removed in 1954 in a CIA-led coup carried out under the code name Operation PBSUCCESS. Dulles was on the board of trustees of the United Fruit Company, which stood to lose farmland to expropriation under proposed land reforms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles#Involvement_in_coups_against_governments_of_Iran_and_Guatemala
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
3. this was the turning point in our modern history
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:41 PM
Dec 2013

After WW2 USA started pushing fascism around the globe under the guise of the "Cold War." The cold war is now over, so the guise has become "War on Terror."

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

moondust

(19,993 posts)
4. It pisses me off
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:03 PM
Dec 2013

that the CIA overthrew those democratically elected governments. From the little I've read about it, in neither case were they mixed up with Soviet Communists. They were apparently doing what their populations elected them to do in the interest of creating a more equitable society (the kinds of things that Chavez later did in Venezuela).

Looking back at Republicans like Dulles, one can see where today's Republicans are coming from and why they hate and whenever possible attempt to subvert the will of The People.

Yes, the new boogeyman is "terrorism."

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
6. a lot of nazis
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 03:38 AM
Dec 2013

were let go and absorbed.. not to mention left in power in Germany... after WW2...

its no coincidence that weve spent the last 60+ years crusading around the globe installing heavily right wing nationalist governments...

fascism did not die because WW2 ended..

especially here at home..
they took the opportunity of FDR dying, and the sigh of relief of the war ending and thus people letting their guard down, to start their slow take over...

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