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Do You Think Southerners & Conservatives Realize Just How Badly They're Being Played? (Original Post) kpete Dec 2013 OP
"Southerners" or Rural? I see folks like this all over America. Dawgs Dec 2013 #1
Yep. Decades ago when I started traveling outside the South... onehandle Dec 2013 #3
I think that's true. But the South stands in for rural a lot of times el_bryanto Dec 2013 #4
EXACTLY. Lex Dec 2013 #5
The two examples used are Southern but the problem applies nationally. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #24
I'll vote for "rural". I've lived in Iowa for 26 years, and bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #27
Same thing with Bush. He was a Silver Spoon Northeast Elitist. onehandle Dec 2013 #2
Remember when.. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #29
And the split second he left the White House he sold his "ranch" Mariana Dec 2013 #33
Duck Dynasty is one of many "cons" perpetrated on right-wingers CoffeeCat Dec 2013 #6
In a nutshell you have them pegged on point Dec 2013 #8
I know... CoffeeCat Dec 2013 #17
+1 daleanime Dec 2013 #26
+1. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #9
I see this ALL the time and I just CAN NOT understand it! Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #19
Agreed negoldie Dec 2013 #20
Mark Twain PADemD Dec 2013 #23
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."... TeamPooka Dec 2013 #25
+1 Dawson Leery Dec 2013 #31
Ignorant stereotyping-always a DU favorite Rowdyboy Dec 2013 #7
I think it is human nature goldent Dec 2013 #11
You'd expect more on a "progressive" Democratic webite but 11 years of experience Rowdyboy Dec 2013 #13
I think a person's politics is not a good indicator of what they are like overall goldent Dec 2013 #15
Thanks for this. n/t cordelia Dec 2013 #18
You can depend on it. pecwae Dec 2013 #35
Years ago when I still gave a damn I loved to respond by posting a picture Rowdyboy Dec 2013 #37
In these cases, I question who's being "played" Mopar151 Dec 2013 #10
It's all part of the corporate media propaganda package playing to stereotype Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #12
No, they mostly don't realize it. In that respect, they are just like ... dawg Dec 2013 #14
Beverly Hillbillies sorefeet Dec 2013 #16
Maybe these guys give people a respite Turbineguy Dec 2013 #21
Just as much as you're being played.... aikoaiko Dec 2013 #22
Yup. +1 n/t progressoid Dec 2013 #28
Shhhhh....They don't like you to point out the obvious fallacies in their stereotypes.... Rowdyboy Dec 2013 #30
Astute observation. cordelia Dec 2013 #32
Some just have this pecwae Dec 2013 #36
+1 Go Vols Dec 2013 #38
Don't have a clue n/t doc03 Dec 2013 #34
Just look at what most of the replies in this thread focus on and you have your answer. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #39
I don't know, but they embarrass America greatly Skittles Dec 2013 #40
They do not have a clue..........nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #41
We're all being played, liberals and conservatives alike DerekG Dec 2013 #42

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Yep. Decades ago when I started traveling outside the South...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:14 AM
Dec 2013

...I quickly noticed that 'rednecks' are in rural areas from coast to coast, border to border.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. I think that's true. But the South stands in for rural a lot of times
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:14 AM
Dec 2013

At least in Hollywood.

Bryant

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
27. I'll vote for "rural". I've lived in Iowa for 26 years, and
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:45 PM
Dec 2013

clearly we've proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that there are plenty of liberal/progressive thinking people in this state given the results of the last two presidential elections, but there's no shortage of Duck Dynasty/Larry the Cable Guy-worshipping people out there as well, given my own personal experiences with them.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. Same thing with Bush. He was a Silver Spoon Northeast Elitist.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:12 AM
Dec 2013

And adopted a 'Texas' persona to become 'successful.'


SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
29. Remember when..
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:20 PM
Dec 2013

Romney tried to go " aw shucks" too when he was campaigning .People didnt like it. I think he claimed to his audience that he ate grits or something.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
33. And the split second he left the White House he sold his "ranch"
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:51 PM
Dec 2013

and immediately moved into the city. The "ranch" was nothing but a prop so he could pretend to have something in common with rural voters.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. Duck Dynasty is one of many "cons" perpetrated on right-wingers
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:21 AM
Dec 2013

Right-wing elites, who are billionaires and corporatists, figured long ago that they needed to find a base of useful idiots who would be ignorant enough to buy into their nonsense.

They knew that educated liberals, who aren't sociopaths or freakin idiots, wouldn't be suckered.

The elites and corporatists first began with their "family values" moniker. They used religion to cull votes from a very ignorant herd. Anyone really believe the greedy corporatists and psychopathic CEOs who will die before paying workers a living wage---actually give a rip about spiritual matters? They are ruthless sociopaths. Religion is their device. It's how they grew a "base" for their sick causes.

And they convinced these fools every time. They convince lower and middle class folks to cheerlead for: Taxbreaks for millionaires; cuts in Social Security; expensive wars that enrich defense contractors. They have convinced them that global warming isn't real and that energy companies who are destroying our water supply and our environment need more tax breaks and less regulations--because it's the 'Murcian way! Hell, I had a right-wing nutjob scream at me once after the 2008 mortgage implosion--because he said the banks needed LESS regulation! These people are f'n ignorant and they are proud of their ignorance!

These fools can be convinced of ANYTHING--if Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity lays out the talking points, they're all suddenly parroting the talking points.

So yes--I think these fools are easily conned. By Duck Dynasty, by right-wing radio personalities, by religion charlatans. By lots of things.

It's depressing.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
17. I know...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:19 PM
Dec 2013

...I see these nimrods making such stupid comments on their Facebook pages. They are so convinced of their brilliance and so proud to publish their ignorant comments to everyone.

But that's another ploy from right-wing radio. These ignorant fools (such as people who love Duck Dynasty) used to be society's outcasts. Bigots and haters used to hide their ignorance. They were shamed by society for their stupidity. Right-wing radio and tv provides a water cooler for these useful idiots to gather 'round and say, "Gee! I thought I was the only one who hated the gay!" or "I've know that non-whites were bad, but I never said nuthin, until you people showed me that I'm not the only one!"

Seriously. Right-wing radio makes bigotry, hatred and ignorance acceptable because these rats are all galvanized and feeling accepted.

Of course, these talk-how hosts play on their egos, telling listeners that they are smarter and more clever than liberals or the media that won't tell them the truth. These horrendously ignorant fools run around believing that they're smarter than the rest of the world and are privy to right-wing "truth" that the stupid liberals, scientists, researchers and intellectuals just can't possibly fathom. Again, these people used to hide their foolishness. Now, they are excited by it and proud of it.

It's sickening. It's making our society sick.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
19. I see this ALL the time and I just CAN NOT understand it!
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:56 PM
Dec 2013

The unionized workplace I work at is teeming with die-hard republican "christian" voters and all they ever talk about is guns, sports, and whatever the corporate media's talking points are for the day. They act as they're the only ones who deserve the money they make and that everyone else is lazy and over paid. They're selfish scum and I want to kick each of their heads off their shoulders.

I have a friend elsewhere in the country who is no-doubt certifiably poor, and he knows it. What's really annoying/puzzling is that while he is somewhat of a "values voter", those are just side issues; that is, he isn't just some fellow traveller who tolerates the GOP's oppressive plutocracy in deference to "values". His #1 reason for supporting the GOP and being a Conservative with a capital "P" is their economic stance. He believes in supply-side/trickle-down that much more absolutely for the amount it shits on him...and get this: He is a corporate bootlicker and he hates hates HATES unions....with a blazing white hot fury. He has to be mentally ill, no?

negoldie

(198 posts)
20. Agreed
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:07 PM
Dec 2013

They have convinced the poor and middle class they aren't poor enough while the wealthy actually deserve more. Geeesh.....

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
23. Mark Twain
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:24 PM
Dec 2013

Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain't that a big enough majority in any town?
- The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

http://www.twainquotes.com/Fool.html

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
25. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:27 PM
Dec 2013

- Martin Luther King Jr.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
11. I think it is human nature
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

There is a a desire to feel you are better than another group of people. Not sure if this is learned or innate.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
13. You'd expect more on a "progressive" Democratic webite but 11 years of experience
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:02 PM
Dec 2013

has taught me, sadly, that is not the case. I've seen some of the most ignorant, childish, middle-schoolish stereotyping imaginable right here, some by long time, established members. They seem to wear their stupidity as some sort of odd badge of honor. Eventually you either mock it or ignore it as the mood strikes.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
15. I think a person's politics is not a good indicator of what they are like overall
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:08 PM
Dec 2013

I'm often surprised to learn of a person's politics, after I have known them for sometime (e.g. at work).

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
37. Years ago when I still gave a damn I loved to respond by posting a picture
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 05:29 PM
Dec 2013

of a big steaming pile of horseshit right in the middle of their thread. But that just gave them what they so desperately wanted-a reaction. So now I just laugh.

You'd think we'd all have finished middle-school by now but apparently some are having a tougher time than others.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
10. In these cases, I question who's being "played"
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

Beleiving that facial hair and the color of a T-shirt say much about anyone's essential carachter is very much a "city-boy" thing.

In ralated news, Dan Whitney's "Larry the Cable Guy" carachter was a pervert in the 80's, and his "commentaries" were closer to ol' Bob Boudelang than to the RushBlimp.

Uncle Joe

(58,363 posts)
12. It's all part of the corporate media propaganda package playing to stereotype
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:57 PM
Dec 2013

for dividing and conquering purposes, image is everything.

If you can identify with the image, you're more likely to accept the message.

Too many people are fooled by this superficial B.S.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. No, they mostly don't realize it. In that respect, they are just like ...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:06 PM
Dec 2013

the Northerners and "moderates."



sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
16. Beverly Hillbillies
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:13 PM
Dec 2013

Jerry Springer, Bill Cunningham and how many other shows exploit the dysfunctional, down trodden and ignorant to get rich.. Bill Cunningham is a friend of Sean Hannity and his shows are almost ALWAYS black or Hispanic. Racism pays good wages to these folks.

Turbineguy

(37,332 posts)
21. Maybe these guys give people a respite
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:09 PM
Dec 2013

from their exessively complicated wretched existence. And instead of doing something about their existence these people spend their time escaping to this. On a personal level it's fairly harmless, on a societal level we get a GOP congress which makes these people's lives more complicated and wretched, which means we need more backwoods, ignorant, stupid, aw-shucks southern buffoon character entertainment.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
22. Just as much as you're being played....
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:14 PM
Dec 2013


...since you didn't mention Jersey Shore, Alaska Frontier, Kardashians, Real World, Survivor, Amish Mafia, or any of the Housewives of... franchise.

Surely, you don't think people identifying with reality tv shows is a Southern or conservative thing?


Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
30. Shhhhh....They don't like you to point out the obvious fallacies in their stereotypes....
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:29 PM
Dec 2013

It just ruins the hate.

pecwae

(8,021 posts)
36. Some just have this
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:40 PM
Dec 2013

compulsive need to make themselves feel better through mocking and stereotyping. You sort of have to have a little pity on those so shallow as to require such activity for life enrichment and self esteem.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
39. Just look at what most of the replies in this thread focus on and you have your answer.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 05:43 PM
Dec 2013

There is apparently no limit to what most people will believe as long as it's presented to them in a way they find acceptable.

DerekG

(2,935 posts)
42. We're all being played, liberals and conservatives alike
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 10:05 AM
Dec 2013

The folksy Reagan and Bush play the Mayberry act; the urbane Clinton and Obama purport to feel our pain.

None of them gives a damn about us.

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