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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:35 AM Dec 2013

Woman arrested for attempting to frame husband by putting child porn on his computer

A Pennsylvania woman was busted for putting child pornography on a home computer in a failed bid to get her estranged husband arrested, state police said.

Meri Jane Woods, 42, sparked the investigation last August — when she strolled into a state police barracks in the town of Indiana to report her husband had sexually abused children, authorities said.

Woods, of Cherry Hill Township, also told investigators that her unidentified husband had downloaded several images of the abuse on their home computer.

But troopers soon found that all of the lewd files on the computer were installed just three days before Woods went to the police. The probe also found that Woods’ husband, Matthew Woods, had moved out of the home the month before.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pennsylvania-woman-busted-frame-husband-child-porn-article-1.1556487

She's not only facing charges relating to the child porn, but she's facing 40 counts of lying to the police.

Well, the divorce should be pretty easy now...
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Woman arrested for attempting to frame husband by putting child porn on his computer (Original Post) davidn3600 Dec 2013 OP
Not like people to lie like that about such things The Straight Story Dec 2013 #1
If you throw dirt at a man, some of it will stick. Festivito Dec 2013 #3
At a man? or at anyone? nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #10
shrug... sibelian Dec 2013 #196
Yes it does davidpdx Dec 2013 #4
"once it hits the papers and news it really doesn't matter if the charges are dropped." Ghost in the Machine Dec 2013 #7
Perhaps the Folks In That Town Know Who Meri Jane Woods Was Married To ProfessorGAC Dec 2013 #11
Ah, true davidpdx Dec 2013 #180
woman scorned. not so much. husband generally kills cause scorned. wife generally kills cause of seabeyond Dec 2013 #104
Who was killed here? polly7 Dec 2013 #122
"Who was killed here?" really? this is what you start with replying to what i wrote. whatevah seabeyond Dec 2013 #127
Glad you're feeling better, Seabeyond... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #130
i am not addressing the OP. i am not addressing a conversation with you. i am addressing the stupid seabeyond Dec 2013 #132
Well, your original post in this thread was a piece... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #135
again. talking about the stupid ass saying a woman scorn. giving out facts that a woman does not seabeyond Dec 2013 #139
Strange how it's okay for some to define men by a minority who commit crimes... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #142
whatever. again. not what i am addressing seabeyond Dec 2013 #144
Okay...I'm just not following you on this apparently. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #146
Plenty of women scorned retaliate in all sorts of damaging, if not lethal, ways. polly7 Dec 2013 #143
brilliant polly. how often do you hear man scorned? seabeyond Dec 2013 #145
Brilliant seabeyond. polly7 Dec 2013 #147
ya. that would be a never. hence my post. seabeyond Dec 2013 #150
Sorry, you'd be wrong there. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #152
lmfao woman seabeyond Dec 2013 #154
How on earth would you know what I hear? polly7 Dec 2013 #156
lordy woman. really? the point. where they CALLED ... men scorned, when they went after vengefully seabeyond Dec 2013 #167
At least we now know pintobean Dec 2013 #169
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #172
Ahhh ....... well I don't stroke out over outdated little terms. polly7 Dec 2013 #171
stroke out? done reading. this crap, i stop seabeyond Dec 2013 #173
k ..... bye. polly7 Dec 2013 #181
Looks like she may not be around for a while. pintobean Dec 2013 #188
I didn't alert on your hidden post, sea pintobean Dec 2013 #187
Years ago I worked at the same company as a married couple whose marriage ended pacalo Dec 2013 #182
That's very sad. polly7 Dec 2013 #183
She was a piece of work. pacalo Dec 2013 #185
lmao ... polly7 Dec 2013 #133
Funny how the two people most apparently offended by this thread... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #136
kicked it while discussing anything 'but' the actual OP ... polly7 Dec 2013 #140
are you suggesting i am offended by this thread? seabeyond Dec 2013 #141
I think so. pintobean Dec 2013 #151
i have not posted but to talk about woman scorn. if this is how you draw conclusions, it is no seabeyond Dec 2013 #153
I'm pretty good at left field. pintobean Dec 2013 #155
no, you are not. this is interpreted by you to mean i give a shit. another brilliant. seabeyond Dec 2013 #162
Now I'm hungry pintobean Dec 2013 #164
ahhhh, now you are resorting to the really lame diss. you have really excelled over the last couple seabeyond Dec 2013 #166
It wasn't a lame diss. pintobean Dec 2013 #168
you linked to a post that was in a fluid conversation. not my problem. the people i was addressing seabeyond Dec 2013 #170
It's nice to see pintobean Dec 2013 #174
yup. unfortunately, others fail. personally, i think it is purposeful and they are quite capable seabeyond Dec 2013 #176
I thought I missed a murder. polly7 Dec 2013 #134
Your information doesn't make me sympathize with this woman's actions. pacalo Dec 2013 #179
About this... pipi_k Dec 2013 #25
Yeah, guilty of dumping her lying ass Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #71
I helped an innocent man who was accused of sexual assault. I knew for a fact that Zorra Dec 2013 #186
Thank you for posting this, Zorra. sibelian Dec 2013 #197
That is a terrible, terrible story. Sometimes I think "People = Shit" (to quote a song title) nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #198
Thank you, Zorra. Ghost Dog Dec 2013 #202
my son's mercuryblues Dec 2013 #212
That's pretty messed up. n/t tammywammy Dec 2013 #2
"lying to police" pipoman Dec 2013 #5
police can't speak w/o lying lame54 Dec 2013 #14
Indeed ...the police and detectives lie all the time. L0oniX Dec 2013 #16
Wouldn't that be considered.... daleanime Dec 2013 #56
Surprisingly, no. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #86
Making a false police report implicating another person is already illegal. Jenoch Dec 2013 #93
The article stated 40 counts pipoman Dec 2013 #204
I'm guessing the 40 counts is Jenoch Dec 2013 #207
Wow...that's just plain evil. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #6
What a horrible thing to do. HappyMe Dec 2013 #8
I saw a similar case 11 years ago madville Dec 2013 #9
I saw a couple of train wrecks like that when I was in the Air Force. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #20
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #12
hmmm... I must be missing something penultimate Dec 2013 #13
Check his "transparency" page ...it will help you understand. L0oniX Dec 2013 #19
Thanks for pointing that out. Explains a lot. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #34
Whose transparency page? arcane1 Dec 2013 #53
This one pintobean Dec 2013 #54
Is Trumad going to have to go sit in the corner for awhile come the New Year? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #76
For two weeks pintobean Dec 2013 #78
He's still got a few days left to raise his score. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #82
Aaaaand the jury is in... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #103
"Make it stop." NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #105
That is absolutely amazing. pintobean Dec 2013 #108
That was my rationale. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #115
I've seen a transparency page shared several times. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #118
Yah that was surprising... Agschmid Dec 2013 #213
OFFS ...another example of people who should not be on a jury ...of any sort. L0oniX Dec 2013 #109
Interesting. I just noticed you referenced... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #112
...or an agenda against Pinto. L0oniX Dec 2013 #113
Definitely. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #116
I doubt that it was blue pintobean Dec 2013 #114
Thanks for pointing that out. LiberalFighter Dec 2013 #55
David has a habit of finding and posting the few news stories NuclearDem Dec 2013 #72
"Those stories are worth talking about..." NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #88
I never said there was anything wrong with discussing them. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #92
Oh, okay. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #94
Who's agenda is it, though? pintobean Dec 2013 #98
You still go in there? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #125
I don't post there pintobean Dec 2013 #128
I've never posted in there either. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #131
We had a forum called Meta pintobean Dec 2013 #148
False rape allegations? davidn3600 Dec 2013 #107
It's a conspiracy pintobean Dec 2013 #15
nah...it's a tag team of teh poor boys.. trumad Dec 2013 #18
What's "obvious" is your epic fail reframe. L0oniX Dec 2013 #23
uh huh.... trumad Dec 2013 #27
You're reading an awful lot into one news story. HappyMe Dec 2013 #24
Just call it years of experience trumad Dec 2013 #29
I don't keep track of who posts what sort of things. HappyMe Dec 2013 #36
No kidding. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #41
What makes you think I hate them trumad Dec 2013 #59
It's obvious pintobean Dec 2013 #60
Nah---not about me.... trumad Dec 2013 #62
Trying to get attention before January. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #64
Blog stalking? L0oniX Dec 2013 #42
Silly you trumad Dec 2013 #57
Right pintobean Dec 2013 #28
ah Pinto trumad Dec 2013 #31
I'm flattered pintobean Dec 2013 #33
Did you dress provocatively? L0oniX Dec 2013 #38
You'll have to ask trumad pintobean Dec 2013 #39
What is the problem exactly? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #17
Yeah sure... trumad Dec 2013 #21
You've really been on a conspiracy trip lately. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #22
nah.... trumad Dec 2013 #26
Okay, whatever. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #30
I already said whatever.... trumad Dec 2013 #32
And like clockwork, you jumped in to troll over it.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #35
Agree. If he keeps this up he won't be here much longer. L0oniX Dec 2013 #37
I think that's the point. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #40
What happens in January? Is Skinner finally going to purge GD? leeroysphitz Dec 2013 #44
I think that's when anyone with more than five locks... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #45
On the 6th, and thereafter, anyone with an exposed transparency page pintobean Dec 2013 #47
Oh, that. I was hoping for a good old fashioned purge like we used to leeroysphitz Dec 2013 #51
I wonder if he has anything planned for his big finale. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #52
It is not GD that is the problem. RC Dec 2013 #87
I know. I was hoping those parties might be sent back where they came from... leeroysphitz Dec 2013 #90
Really--- been here a lot fucking longer than you... trumad Dec 2013 #61
It's good to have hopes and dreams. L0oniX Dec 2013 #85
Cool story dude. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author trumad Dec 2013 #58
OMFG!!!! pintobean Dec 2013 #63
maybe not the best phrasing Union Scribe Dec 2013 #65
Dude, that's just creepy. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #66
What? trumad said something creepy? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #73
Strange, I know. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #74
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #77
Woah. aikoaiko Dec 2013 #106
Nice capture. L0oniX Dec 2013 #111
I know what he meant, but out of context, that is just... Geesh... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #199
Finally he spoke the truth! nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #175
I just noticed pintobean Dec 2013 #178
You might want to re-phrase that trumad. It sounds like something you know who would say. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #67
Unintentional DUzy?? madinmaryland Dec 2013 #68
Wow you are really full of it... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #91
Man, that's brutal. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #95
Thanks... I think it has something to do with my not enjoying these "war of the sexes" threads.. SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #97
It's only a small, vocal minority... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #99
uh huh trumad Dec 2013 #96
Ahhh at least you don't defy expectations! SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #100
Believe me, when it happens to you, I will not shed a tear for you. nt madinmaryland Dec 2013 #119
uh huh trumad Dec 2013 #120
That was a really cute post you had above. I'm sure cboy and upton are getting madinmaryland Dec 2013 #121
Don't you have somebody to go poke? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #158
Don't encourage that. pintobean Dec 2013 #161
Just whiny little guys. trumad Dec 2013 #163
Reminds me of righty friend always posting treestar Dec 2013 #137
Good example trumad Dec 2013 #165
So we should completely ignore any case where a woman does something bad to a man davidn3600 Dec 2013 #184
I'm just saying statistically the women are more often attacked by the men treestar Dec 2013 #206
"just trying to make it appear like that statistic is not true..." NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #209
Over time we know which posters think what treestar Dec 2013 #210
Okey dokey. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #211
This post should be deleted as disruptive, IMO. Hosnon Dec 2013 #177
*facepalm* Dash87 Dec 2013 #43
I'll never understand why people do this. geomon666 Dec 2013 #46
I suspect that this and similar happens all the time. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #48
All the time? I dunno about that, 'cause we'd hear about it more often penultimate Dec 2013 #89
Same thing happened to a friend in Ca FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #49
Good grief...why wouldn't she be charged? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #50
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #69
Seriously? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #70
Holy smokes! HappyMe Dec 2013 #79
My thought as well. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #80
Wow! That's one butt load of prejudiced assumptions backed into a single sentence. Impressive. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #81
Aren't you adorable. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #117
Was that a crazy hit and run post or what? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #124
Yeah, because there's no such thing as an "innocent man," right? They're *all* rapists/batterers/ nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #200
How evil. dawg Dec 2013 #75
True. / nt NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #84
What a dumbass HipChick Dec 2013 #83
Really! Not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. KansDem Dec 2013 #126
If this is proven in court then shame on her. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #101
Just a hunch... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #102
Good point. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #110
Isn't this more than just lying to police or filing a false police report? KansDem Dec 2013 #129
Yes. She was actually charged for the child porn. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #138
Thanks! KansDem Dec 2013 #149
Ha ha. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #159
I don't think this couple is compatible. Just my sense of things lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #157
Pretty sick woman maddezmom Dec 2013 #160
I find is fascinating that there are no admonitions about innocent until proven guilty BainsBane Dec 2013 #189
She IS innocent until proven guilty davidn3600 Dec 2013 #191
evidence like DNA and a medical exam showing vaginal tearing, bruising, and wounds BainsBane Dec 2013 #192
That would be strong evidence suggesting rape davidn3600 Dec 2013 #193
She obviously never heard of computer forensics. n/t cynatnite Dec 2013 #190
If she had back dated the computer gerogie2 Dec 2013 #194
How the HELL isn't she being prosecuted for acquiring child porn? Or is she? U4ikLefty Dec 2013 #195
Yes, she is. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #203
Oh good. I cannot read too much of these "threads" of late. U4ikLefty Dec 2013 #208
she is not fit to supervise a child Skittles Dec 2013 #201
Dayum! Waiting For Everyman Dec 2013 #205
please sign camille1971 Jan 2014 #214

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
1. Not like people to lie like that about such things
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:44 AM
Dec 2013

He is probably guilty of something else. (yes, that is sarcasm - but there is a good chance some are indeed thinking that)

Either way, that sort of accusation sticks with someone, even when found innocent. Name gets in the paper, it spreads doubts among people which may make it harder to find employment, housing, etc.

I saw inmates night after night and certainly not all of them were convicted. For whatever reason charges might be dropped. But some crimes you remember and associate with the person anyway (you hear snide remarks from inmates and other deputies that the person will be caught eventually for something else, etc).

Coming down hard on people who lie about such crimes would hopefully reduce the urge to do so.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
3. If you throw dirt at a man, some of it will stick.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 06:07 AM
Dec 2013

Even what little you wrote in sarcasm sticks a little.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. Yes it does
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 06:45 AM
Dec 2013

Maybe he cheated on her (something about a woman scorn). Her actions were reckless. As you stated once it hits the papers and news it really doesn't matter if the charges are dropped. There are going to be some that believe the story no matter what.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
7. "once it hits the papers and news it really doesn't matter if the charges are dropped."
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:30 AM
Dec 2013

I don't see where he was ever even charged. Wife made allegations, police investigated, found her story to be false.

From the link in the OP:


Pennsylvania State Police said Meri Jane Woods, 42, installed child pornography on a home computer in a failed attempt to get her husband arrested.


Peace,

Ghost

ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
11. Perhaps the Folks In That Town Know Who Meri Jane Woods Was Married To
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:07 AM
Dec 2013

He gets stained at least a little either way. Right?
GAC

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
104. woman scorned. not so much. husband generally kills cause scorned. wife generally kills cause of
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:24 PM
Dec 2013

threat of violence. it should read, man scorned. can we put this old and tired away?


More important are the reasons for such family violence. When women kill
within the family circle, previous research indicates that in roughly half the cases the
victim is likely to be the spouse of the offender (Wallace 1986). In their examination
of incarcerated women who had killed their spouses or boyfriends, Bacon and
Lansdowne (1982) reported that in fourteen of the sixteen cases the woman had been
assaulted by the male she was subsequently accused of killing. Thus, the violence of
such women can be viewed as both reactive and defensive. Consistent with this view
is the finding of Wallace that:
Women killed their husbands against a background of violence; they killed in
response to and because of violence perpetrated by their husband on them and/or
other members of their family (Wallace 1986, p. 108).
http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/proceedings/16/polk.pdf

polly7

(20,582 posts)
122. Who was killed here?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 06:37 PM
Dec 2013

Not that destroying someone's life isn't probably nearly as bad, but I must have missed the violence and killing here.

And yes, women and men scorned are capable of horrible things. I was working in the bar not too long ago and saw a woman at closing time slam the door shut on her own shoulder. After a few of us looked at each other with, wth, she came back up to the bar and asked us to call the cops to report her boyfriend's abuse. Apparently they'd just broken up. We didn't call.



 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
127. "Who was killed here?" really? this is what you start with replying to what i wrote. whatevah
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:06 PM
Dec 2013

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
130. Glad you're feeling better, Seabeyond...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:09 PM
Dec 2013

but you're letting your argument with me last week color your opinion of this story. "Who was killed here?" is a valid question for this thread.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
132. i am not addressing the OP. i am not addressing a conversation with you. i am addressing the stupid
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:14 PM
Dec 2013

woman scorned. i thought that obvious since that is the only thing i pulled and discussed. put away the old and tired sexist tripe, woman scorned.

did we talk about this last week? i know i did with someone. and here it is again.

every time i see woman scorned, i will make the same point. men have more issue with being "scorned" than women. quit exclusively giving it to us. it is used as a reason. i do not like it. it is not factual. it is stupid.

and noooo, i do not feel better. thank you

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
135. Well, your original post in this thread was a piece...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:18 PM
Dec 2013

dealing statistics for male and female violence. That just kind of came in from out of the blue since no violence of any kind had even been mentioned in this thread.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
139. again. talking about the stupid ass saying a woman scorn. giving out facts that a woman does not
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:24 PM
Dec 2013

retaliate cause scorned, but fearful. the man retaliates because he is scorned.

now

can we quit giving that cutsey little sexist term, woman scorned, to women.

not a tough one.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
142. Strange how it's okay for some to define men by a minority who commit crimes...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:27 PM
Dec 2013

but the women who commit crimes are supposed to be looked upon as outliers.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
146. Okay...I'm just not following you on this apparently.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:29 PM
Dec 2013

Obviously we have failure to communicate.

Gotta go for tonight. I hope you feel better.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
143. Plenty of women scorned retaliate in all sorts of damaging, if not lethal, ways.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:27 PM
Dec 2013

As do plenty of men.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
156. How on earth would you know what I hear?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:46 PM
Dec 2013

Seriously. I know plenty of men 'scorned', ditched, screwed around on. Do you think I live in a convent or something?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
167. lordy woman. really? the point. where they CALLED ... men scorned, when they went after vengefully
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:16 PM
Dec 2013

the point is not if a man has ever been fucked on. the POINT is the sexist cutsey little saying they use exclusively on woman. catch up

Response to pintobean (Reply #169)

polly7

(20,582 posts)
171. Ahhh ....... well I don't stroke out over outdated little terms.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:24 PM
Dec 2013

I actually thought you were going a bit deeper into the 'men retaliate to being scorned by killing, while women just ...... don't' idea you'd brought up.

Catch up? Don't worry yourself, I've long gotten beyond being outraged by a simple word.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
188. Looks like she may not be around for a while.
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 12:03 AM
Dec 2013

Her account is flagged for review again. If admin leaves it that way until January 6th, she's gone until February 4th - if she's allowed back at all. Stroke out - excellent phrase.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
187. I didn't alert on your hidden post, sea
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:48 PM
Dec 2013

But, since it pretty much consisted of you calling me a liar, you may not believe me.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
182. Years ago I worked at the same company as a married couple whose marriage ended
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:39 PM
Dec 2013

in a most callous way.

The husband was out of town when he called home one mid-afternoon. When he asked her what she was doing, she told him she was in bed. In the middle of the day, he asked? I'm entertaining someone, she said. It was one of the assistant plant managers of the company at which they both worked. The husband was devastated & I'm sure that the deep hurt must still be haunting him. They had five young sons.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
183. That's very sad.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:46 PM
Dec 2013

I'm always amazed at how cruel people can be to someone they once loved. I can just imagine how devastated he would be. Those poor boys, I hope they and their dad are doing ok.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
185. She was a piece of work.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:09 PM
Dec 2013

She was beautiful but wasn't well-liked because of her lack of people skills. Also, if I described how scantily her tops were for a professional setting I'd be asking for trouble from the you-know-who's. She was on the hunt for a man with a higher salary & she bagged what she thought was the big prize.

I've often wondered how the ex-husband & five sons are doing. I have no idea, unfortunately.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
136. Funny how the two people most apparently offended by this thread...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:20 PM
Dec 2013

are the ones who have kicked it all day.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
140. kicked it while discussing anything 'but' the actual OP ...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:25 PM
Dec 2013

yes, that is curious. [URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
153. i have not posted but to talk about woman scorn. if this is how you draw conclusions, it is no
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:42 PM
Dec 2013

wonder you are too often so far in left field.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
162. no, you are not. this is interpreted by you to mean i give a shit. another brilliant.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:02 PM
Dec 2013
no. they are not. i am not one that professes all gender bad all gender good. so it is a futile

effort to correct or influence. it gives them something to talk about


sounds like a huge arse .... meh, to me

talk away
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
166. ahhhh, now you are resorting to the really lame diss. you have really excelled over the last couple
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:09 PM
Dec 2013

days.

something really simple for you pinto, so you cannot interpret it in your own creative way.

the woman was a piece of shit.
it was a piece of shit thing she did
she got caught, early, yea
she needs to go to jail

see how fuckin easy it is

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
168. It wasn't a lame diss.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:21 PM
Dec 2013

My typing and writing skills suck. I take the time to at least try to make my posts readable and understandable. I don't expect the reader to have to decode what I post.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
170. you linked to a post that was in a fluid conversation. not my problem. the people i was addressing
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:23 PM
Dec 2013

understood perfectly well.

it was your brilliant decision that you had to prove how damn smart you are being clairvoyant, assuming what another thinks.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
176. yup. unfortunately, others fail. personally, i think it is purposeful and they are quite capable
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:56 PM
Dec 2013

now. this whole ambush from the three of you was so beyond lame, .... i am outta here.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
179. Your information doesn't make me sympathize with this woman's actions.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:26 PM
Dec 2013

What she did is vicious & indefensible.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
25. About this...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:56 PM
Dec 2013
Coming down hard on people who lie about such crimes would hopefully reduce the urge to do so.


I'm thinking probably not.

Look at the death penalty. Even that isn't a deterrent.


Besides, anybody who would go to the lengths she did is a VERY sick person. No doubt she probably still thinks she had every reason and right to do what she did.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
186. I helped an innocent man who was accused of sexual assault. I knew for a fact that
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:17 PM
Dec 2013

he was innocent, and we proved it before he was charged. I knew the woman who accused him, and she was borderline sociopathic. It was a vengeance accusation. I recorded a conversation in the home of the woman's best friend, that could not be used as evidence in court, but the judge said he would listen to the recording in his chambers. When the judge came out of his chambers, he was red faced furious, and very severely admonished the woman. My friend (who is gay, btw), went to the sheriff's office and tried to press charges against the woman, but the deputies refused, saying that it would cause others to be afraid to come forward with similar allegations if charges were filed. My friend was so crushed, drained, and devastated by these events that he did not have the will to pursue it any further, he just wanted it over.

This whole episode lasted several months, and the poor guy could not believe what was happening to him. He did nothing wrong, and there was not a shred of evidence against him except the woman's testimony. This destroyed my friends life for a long time. He lost most of his "friends", and was afraid that everyone would still think he might be a sexual predator. He went bankrupt from paying legal fees to the lawyer who worked on the case, became depressed, began using cocaine to combat the depression, got busted for selling 3 grams of coke, and ended up doing 1 1/2 years in state prison.

After he got out of prison, he did his probation thing, and moved away, and never returned. He's doing ok now, we are still in contact a few times a year, but his life was permanently and considerably altered by this incident.

I still have the original recording, it's as damning as damning can be; it was definitely as set up, and there have been times when I've actually considered putting it on youtube, but I do not want to bring this ghost of nightmares past back on my friend.

I have played the recording for some of our mutual friends, the few who stood by my friend all the way. The women cried when they heard it, the men wanted blood.

True story, and with more details it becomes unbelievable, how horribly an innocent person be alleged to have committed a crime, yet have no evidence against them except the words of a sociopathic monster, and then have their life ruined in so many ways by the justice system, in a heartbeat.

And you know what he said to me after it was all over?

"No one ever even apologized."

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
197. Thank you for posting this, Zorra.
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 05:58 AM
Dec 2013

I think the actual human aspect of false rape accusation can very easily be brushed under the carpet in the heat of discussion.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
198. That is a terrible, terrible story. Sometimes I think "People = Shit" (to quote a song title)
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:07 AM
Dec 2013

isn't all that inaccurate...

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
202. Thank you, Zorra.
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:51 AM
Dec 2013

I've been a victim of false testimony in a similar way, too. Best course of action in court was just to let them get on with it. Didn't have to do jail time, just a suspended sentence and my name on a black list, I suppose, for something I didn't do.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
212. my son's
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 07:10 PM
Dec 2013

girlfriend's exboyfriend, tried to get him arrested for a felony. It was easily disproved. No charges were brought against the ex either. He was just told by the police to stay away from them.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
5. "lying to police"
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:56 AM
Dec 2013

Making a false report should be illegal. Lying to police, not so much...at least until police lying to suspects and witnesses is grounds for dismissal. .police rely on massive lying to get confessions and manipulate witnesses. .it should not be allowed. .

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
86. Surprisingly, no.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:30 PM
Dec 2013

Entrapment is when the police or someone acting on their behalf manages to induce someone to commit a crime he or she otherwise wouldn't have committed. Police lying to suspects to get a confession is just fine and dandy as far as I know. Police lying to witnesses...well, that just kind of depends on the circumstances and how a judge interprets it.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
93. Making a false police report implicating another person is already illegal.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:47 PM
Dec 2013

The charges will not be filed as 'lying to police'. That was was what the reporter wrote.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
204. The article stated 40 counts
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 09:31 AM
Dec 2013

of "lying to police". If the charge was making a false report, it would be a single charge. It appears it must be in writing in PA..I suspect she was asked to write her statement?

§ 4904. Unsworn falsification to authorities. (a) In general.--A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree if, with intent to mislead a public servant in performing his official function, he: (1) makes any written false statement which he does not believe to be true; (2) submits or invites reliance on any writing which he knows to be forged, altered or otherwise lacking in authenticity; or (3) submits or invites reliance on any sample, specimen, map, boundary mark, or other object which he knows to be false. (b) Statements "under penalty".--A person commits a misdemeanor of the third degree if he makes a written false statement which he does not believe to be true, on or pursuant to a form bearing notice, authorized by law, to the effect that false statements made therein are punishable. (c) Perjury provisions applicable.--Section 4902(c) through (f) of this title (relating to perjury) applies to this section. (d) Penalty.--In addition to any other penalty that may be imposed, a person convicted under this section shall be sentenced to pay a fine of at least $1,000. (Nov. 29, 2006, P.L.1481, No.168, eff. 60 days)


http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=18&div=0&chpt=49&sctn=4&subsctn=0&mobile_choice=suppress

.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
207. I'm guessing the 40 counts is
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 12:19 PM
Dec 2013

some multiple of the number of images she downloaded onto the computer. Making a false police report that implicates someone else in criminal activity is a serious charge. It's not just about lying to cops.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
6. Wow...that's just plain evil.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:57 AM
Dec 2013

I hope they give her plenty of time to think about it in the state boarding house.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
8. What a horrible thing to do.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:36 AM
Dec 2013

She's also not the sharpest knife in the drawer, since the guy had been gone for a month. She will probably be in trouble for what she tried to frame her ex for.

madville

(7,410 posts)
9. I saw a similar case 11 years ago
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:02 AM
Dec 2013

A former coworker broke up with his fiancé and she reported him to the police for multiple crimes, the major ones were child porn and selling drugs. She also reported it to where we were employed because he was selling drugs at work (that part was true). The illegal porn accusations weren't valid however.

Within a few days the employer drug tested everyone and 12 people failed, fired immediately. The coworker got arrested on some drug charges and his ex got arrested for filing a false police report on the porn. That one bad breakup caused a huge shitstorm.

Response to davidn3600 (Original post)

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
13. hmmm... I must be missing something
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:57 AM
Dec 2013

Because I do not understand your comment about this post. I must be missing some context

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
76. Is Trumad going to have to go sit in the corner for awhile come the New Year?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:06 PM
Dec 2013

Is that when this new five-strikes-and-you're-out thing goes into effect? And is that how it works?

We'll miss you, sweetness.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
103. Aaaaand the jury is in...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:23 PM
Dec 2013
At Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:05 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

This one
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4236124

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

A callout. One of many for this poster. Make it stop.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:13 PM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Christ. Transparency Pages are shared all over this board. Hardly a hideable "offense."
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Callouts aren't against the rules any more. DU operates on transparency, and if a transparency page is visible there's nothing wrong with linking to it. The way people can avoid having their bad behavior not highlighted is to not say things (like calling posters "douchebag&quot that result in hidden posts. LEAVE.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Y'know, some of us are getting really tired of the petty, juvenile bullshit that seems to have infected much of DU lately. I've reached the point where the call-outs, the mud-slinging, the generally infantile behavior seem just as bad on one side of an issue as on another. It's as if y'all are just tryin' to get each other tombstoned, and I didn't think that was the intent of DU. Both of you -- all of you?? -- need to go stand in a corner for a while. And maybe you'll stand there long enough to grow up a little.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

I let it slide.
 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
108. That is absolutely amazing.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:36 PM
Dec 2013

3 votes to hide a post for linking to a page that's visible to all members, and it's posted and controlled by admin.

Thanks for the vote and for sharing.

Wow

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
118. I've seen a transparency page shared several times.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 05:06 PM
Dec 2013

Not sure why anyone would think it's a big deal. It's supposed to be transparent, after all.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
109. OFFS ...another example of people who should not be on a jury ...of any sort.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:38 PM
Dec 2013

I wish I knew who they are so I could put them in my jury member ban list ...of course I'd need to have a bigger list than what DU allows right now.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
112. Interesting. I just noticed you referenced...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:48 PM
Dec 2013

the transparency page as well. Were you alerted on? Guess it was that blue link that pushed someone over the edge...

LiberalFighter

(50,931 posts)
55. Thanks for pointing that out.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:22 PM
Dec 2013

Will have to remember it when I have questions about a poster. Looks like it provides some needed insight.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
72. David has a habit of finding and posting the few news stories
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:57 PM
Dec 2013

about men being victimized by women. A couple weeks ago it was a false rape accusation.

Those stories are worth talking about, but his posting history is less than flattering when it comes to discussing feminism. This is just more false equivalency nonsense and exception-rule confusing.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
88. "Those stories are worth talking about..."
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:43 PM
Dec 2013

Then what exactly is the problem with someone posting them on a DISCUSSION board? Is this supposed to be an echo chamber of only the anointed views here?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
94. Oh, okay.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:49 PM
Dec 2013

Well, as long you don't think there is anything wrong with discussing them. I'll check with Trumad too, just to make sure.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
98. Who's agenda is it, though?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:07 PM
Dec 2013

I noticed a thread in HOF (your favorite group) on the subject. Is that thread creating an agenda in response to an agenda that may, or may not, exist? There could be multiple agendas at play here.
It's quite possible that this thread would have died quickly, had it not been for the agenda accusations.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
128. I don't post there
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:07 PM
Dec 2013

The mini-meta is interesting reading. You can see strategies form and foreshadowing of what's about to happen in GD. Then there's the whining and call-outs...

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
131. I've never posted in there either.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:11 PM
Dec 2013

Just a glance at the titles of the threads lets me know that there is a disturbance in the force.

Serious question: What does "meta" mean? I see that term used all the time.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
148. We had a forum called Meta
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:31 PM
Dec 2013

where we talked about DU, DUers, jury results, etc. It turned into a call-out shit storm bar fight and admin shut it down. It lasted a little over a year on DU3. It was replaced with the Ask The Administrators forum.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
107. False rape allegations?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:28 PM
Dec 2013

Where?

Yeah, I did post a few weeks ago on the Jameis Winston case. So did a hundred other DUers. ESPN was running wall-to-wall coverage of it. How can you not comment on it?

I dont have any problem with feminists. Just the HoF-ers who feel feminism is there way or the highway. They can't accept that people are innocent until proven guilty. They want the government to ban pornography. They view anyone engaging in consensual BDSM to be misogynist and committing rape violence. It's just radical stuff and I am not the only one that calls them out on it.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
18. nah...it's a tag team of teh poor boys..
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

Saying hey...ya see...teh men's have it rough to.

It's so fucking obvious.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
29. Just call it years of experience
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:59 PM
Dec 2013

Of reading these types of Ops and matching the names of who posts them.

It's so obvious .... but hey...If not to you...oh well.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
36. I don't keep track of who posts what sort of things.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:04 PM
Dec 2013

If you wanted to make this OP into a big deal, you suceeded so far. That much is obvious.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
62. Nah---not about me....
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:38 PM
Dec 2013

mostly about the same whiny group of boys who continue to think that life is unfair because of teh mean women's.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
28. Right
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:58 PM
Dec 2013

because this happens all the time. If it were something that never happens, it might just be a WTF? post.

I think your accusation is fucking obvious.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
31. ah Pinto
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:00 PM
Dec 2013

I made an imaginary bet with myself that you'd pop up in this thread...and there you are.

Very very predictable.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
17. What is the problem exactly?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

It's a news story on a discussion board. If you don't like it, I'm sure there are other news stories on the discussion board. Different strokes...that sort of thing.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
26. nah....
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:56 PM
Dec 2013

I just know poor whittle guy posts when I see them.

Same fucking characters posting the same fucking Ops showing us all that the women's can be bad to....and then the same sad sacks jumping in to say oh my.

False equivalent amateur shit.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
30. Okay, whatever.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:00 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure everyone will take steps to make sure they don't post anything that might offend you...or not. Have a pleasant day.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
45. I think that's when anyone with more than five locks...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:26 PM
Dec 2013

gets posting privileges revoked until they don't have more than four in the previous ninety days. Something like that.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
47. On the 6th, and thereafter, anyone with an exposed transparency page
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:28 PM
Dec 2013

can't post until it is no longer exposed - when it drops to 4 hidden posts. Trumad will have his own safe haven for a while.

 

leeroysphitz

(10,462 posts)
51. Oh, that. I was hoping for a good old fashioned purge like we used to
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:41 PM
Dec 2013

have in the lounge back in the day.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
87. It is not GD that is the problem.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:38 PM
Dec 2013

The OP is only a reaction, or response to a problem that is centered elsewhere.

Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #35)

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
73. What? trumad said something creepy?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:00 PM
Dec 2013

In contrast to his constant claims he's evolved to a higher plain than all other men?

Naaaah....say it ain't so!

Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #73)

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
178. I just noticed
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:25 PM
Dec 2013

he had a post hidden up-thread. That extends his upcoming time out a little bit. The one I capped went 3-3, the same as my post that linked to his transparency page.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
91. Wow you are really full of it...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:46 PM
Dec 2013

False equivalence my ass. I have lived through this. I was falsely accused of spousal abuse and child abuse by my now ex.

I was arrested, jailed and a restraining order was put against me on her word alone. On her word alone I spent over a year clearing my name. Had her mom not came forward and testified on my behalf I would probably never have seen my kids again.

I could go into the whole sordid story, but there is no need. I know what your response would be.

I just truly hope that you never have to find out the way I did that the equivalency is real for many people. And lives are ruined by it.








SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
97. Thanks... I think it has something to do with my not enjoying these "war of the sexes" threads..
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:02 PM
Dec 2013

I have never brought it up before but this post was too much to let it go...

And I still love women! I am happily remarried, and we have a great life together, my kids love her and she loves them.. I have just learned that even though assholes come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and sexes. However DU is not the place to discuss that. I guess I missed the day where it was decreed that if you are male and white there is no defending yourself, no matter how a good a person you try to be.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
99. It's only a small, vocal minority...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:08 PM
Dec 2013

that would deny your right to at least voice an opinion. I imagine you've met them all by now.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
121. That was a really cute post you had above. I'm sure cboy and upton are getting
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 06:35 PM
Dec 2013

their haha's at that one.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
137. Reminds me of righty friend always posting
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:24 PM
Dec 2013

individual articles on black on white crime. So you take the time to look for hate crimes by whites against blacks. All pointless to make some generalized stereotype. As long as statistics are against you, go find individual case after individual case and keep reminding people of these cases, hoping to make it appear that the opposite of statistical reality is true.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
184. So we should completely ignore any case where a woman does something bad to a man
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:52 PM
Dec 2013

...because it's not a "statistical reality?"

Meanwhile we can post to our hearts desire crimes men commit on women?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
206. I'm just saying statistically the women are more often attacked by the men
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 10:12 AM
Dec 2013

And the posting of these articles over and over is just trying to make it appear like that statistic is not true. Nobody said women are never guilty. It's like a taunt, see a woman did a bad thing, so all your feminist arguments are invalid.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
209. "just trying to make it appear like that statistic is not true..."
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 01:22 PM
Dec 2013

So you're able to discern the OP's motivation for posting this story somehow?

It's an interesting story. Posting interesting stories is one of the things that people do on discussion boards.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
210. Over time we know which posters think what
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 01:25 PM
Dec 2013

When my righty racist friend publishes his daily reports of black on white crime, I know what he's trying to do. Granted it is just an educated guess.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
211. Okey dokey.
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
Dec 2013

I haven't kept up on what the OP has been posting, so I think I'll just wait to form my own opinion.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
177. This post should be deleted as disruptive, IMO.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 08:59 PM
Dec 2013

This story is all over the internet. Posting it here does not mean there is some other motive involved.

You're just dragging in the last few days/weeks into this thread. Seriously...

I've been around since 2004 for what it's worth.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
43. *facepalm*
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:20 PM
Dec 2013

I love how these dumb criminals have never heard of metadata. There's not a brain cell between them.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
46. I'll never understand why people do this.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:27 PM
Dec 2013

Just try to completely ruin someone else's life forever because of a break up. It's so disgusting.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
89. All the time? I dunno about that, 'cause we'd hear about it more often
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:45 PM
Dec 2013

Besides, I think most people (male & female) are not evil enough to pull stunts like this, even when things get nasty.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
50. Good grief...why wouldn't she be charged?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:38 PM
Dec 2013

Shouldn't anyone making a false report to police be charged? I mean, it's not like there is a benign motive behind it.

Response to NaturalHigh (Reply #50)

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
80. My thought as well.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:12 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:09 PM - Edit history (1)

That's why I was thinking (hoping) it might be an ill attempt at sarcasm.

If not...

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
81. Wow! That's one butt load of prejudiced assumptions backed into a single sentence. Impressive.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:13 PM
Dec 2013

And not in a good way.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
200. Yeah, because there's no such thing as an "innocent man," right? They're *all* rapists/batterers/
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:14 AM
Dec 2013

child abusers deep down...

dawg

(10,624 posts)
75. How evil.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:04 PM
Dec 2013

It's a shame that child porn is so easy to come by. Otherwise, it would *not* be so easy to frame someone in this fashion.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
101. If this is proven in court then shame on her.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:13 PM
Dec 2013

To those in this thread who think this was posted for some ogher reason all I can say is it is a legit story.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
102. Just a hunch...
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:21 PM
Dec 2013

I don't think this will ever go to trial. I predict that she will take a plea offered by the DA. Any halfway competent attorney could tell her just how devastating the sentence might be from a jury.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
129. Isn't this more than just lying to police or filing a false police report?
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:07 PM
Dec 2013

She was in possession of child pornography. She had to have it to download on the computer.

Doesn't that make her a pedophile, and, as such, subject to laws banning child pornography?

Will she be required to register as a "sex offender?"

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
138. Yes. She was actually charged for the child porn.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 07:24 PM
Dec 2013
Woods was charged with a felony count of sexual abuse of children for having a computer with the graphic images on it. She was also hit with 40 counts of lying about alleged abuse involving her husband.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
189. I find is fascinating that there are no admonitions about innocent until proven guilty
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 12:53 AM
Dec 2013

Well, actually I'm not. That would require ideological consistency.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
191. She IS innocent until proven guilty
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 01:09 AM
Dec 2013

But...look at the evidence. They can prove the images were uploaded when the husband no longer lived in the home. And they can prove she was in possession of the computer when they were uploaded. So she's kind of screwed.

The forensic evidene in this is strong.

But I dont think this ever goes to trial. This will be a plea deal. A jury and a judge would hammer her if it went to trial.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
192. evidence like DNA and a medical exam showing vaginal tearing, bruising, and wounds
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 01:14 AM
Dec 2013
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but the fact is some feel compelled to make that point central to every discussion about rape yet it never comes up in other cases, particularly when the woman is the perpetrator. People can draw their own conclusions as to why that is.
 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
193. That would be strong evidence suggesting rape
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 02:11 AM
Dec 2013

But that is only half the battle. Then the problem might be proving the person did it, especially if it was a stranger. People have been released from prison after DNA proves they didnt commit the crime. That's not saying the woman lied about being raped, it is saying she accidentally identified the wrong person.
But ultimately, the law outlines what has to be proven for someone to be convicted. That's all part of the jury instructions.

And yes, I talk extensively about "innocence until proven guilty" all the time in lots of cases. I mentioned it over and over again during the Zimmerman trial (and called a racist by some for doing so). And I told people the same thing during the Casey Anthony trial (and was called crazy for doing so).

And btw, studies show when women are accused of a crime, they have a higher chance of getting their charges dropped than a man does. She also, if convicted, would usually serve a lesser setence than a man would. She'll also get sweeter plea deals. Patriarchy is the reason for that by the way. If feminism is successful, women would be going to prison longer because the stereotyps and gender roles is a big part of the reason the system goes easier on female defendants.

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
194. If she had back dated the computer
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 02:34 AM
Dec 2013

when she downloaded the files the ploy would have worked. Pretty scary.

U4ikLefty

(4,012 posts)
195. How the HELL isn't she being prosecuted for acquiring child porn? Or is she?
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 02:41 AM
Dec 2013

The setup is horrible, but she obviously go ahold of some child porn.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
203. Yes, she is.
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 09:05 AM
Dec 2013
Woods was charged with a felony count of sexual abuse of children for having a computer with the graphic images on it. She was also hit with 40 counts of lying about alleged abuse involving her husband.

U4ikLefty

(4,012 posts)
208. Oh good. I cannot read too much of these "threads" of late.
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 01:08 PM
Dec 2013

Hurts too much to see what DU has become.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
205. Dayum!
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 09:58 AM
Dec 2013

Just read the thread for the first time, all the way through. This is a classic. Not to mention the offshoots spun off. Awardable art work too.

Have a donut, all.

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