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Godless atheist on Christmas .... came though with a lovely universal message (Original Post) kpete Dec 2013 OP
This one is falling like a rock MindPilot Dec 2013 #1
Wait...What? MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #9
It was a reference to this thread MindPilot Dec 2013 #39
thanks for letting us know kpete Dec 2013 #46
and... kpete Dec 2013 #11
I always tell my fundie relatives that their "Heaven" would be my "Hell"... Moostache Dec 2013 #14
My feelings exactly amuse bouche Dec 2013 #44
I tell them that their version of heaven sounds kinda socialistic. No capitalism in heaven. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #60
Please don't give me a seat... paleotn Dec 2013 #58
Excellent post! nt mimi85 Dec 2013 #59
... Javaman Dec 2013 #16
Tee Hee amuse bouche Dec 2013 #19
Wow, kpete Dec 2013 #20
It is evident.. awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #31
Please see post 39 n/t MindPilot Dec 2013 #41
"No religion" is about 20% of America now. PassingFair Dec 2013 #21
Wasn't sarcasm MindPilot Dec 2013 #40
Hmmm alfredo Dec 2013 #23
Number 3. Quasimodem Dec 2013 #62
You need to read "Constantine's Sword" by James Carroll. alfredo Dec 2013 #66
boy... this OP got under your skin fascisthunter Dec 2013 #28
No, but atheism sure gets under some DUer's MindPilot Dec 2013 #42
Nein! Hitler used the church to his advantage jmowreader Dec 2013 #43
I could care less if he was or wasn't fascisthunter Dec 2013 #53
To each their own and PumpkinAle Dec 2013 #32
Yup. Only 68 recs in 2 1/2 hours. progressoid Dec 2013 #34
up to 128 now. progressoid Dec 2013 #65
I had always understood that Hitler was a christian rurallib Dec 2013 #45
A good devout Catholic, indeed. mr blur Dec 2013 #47
Yep - that is what I was always told. rurallib Dec 2013 #48
And apparently the Catholic Church didn't have a problem with him. progressoid Dec 2013 #50
And an artist too... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #55
He loved dogs also! sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #56
Hybrid ... GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #61
If only ... Quasimodem Dec 2013 #63
Ummmm.... about that..... Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #67
... Javaman Dec 2013 #49
Most everyone is an atheist. Most everyone is afraid to admit it. valerief Dec 2013 #57
I am an agnostic ... Quasimodem Dec 2013 #64
LOL. Even in anonymous polls? Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #68
kick Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #2
What a nice message Bettie Dec 2013 #3
K&R Auggie Dec 2013 #4
DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2013 #5
Yep amuse bouche Dec 2013 #30
K&R Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #6
Kicked and Rec'd. Iggo Dec 2013 #7
Kick from another G A . trof Dec 2013 #8
Perfectly said! arcane1 Dec 2013 #10
Just sent this to my mom flying rabbit Dec 2013 #12
k and r niyad Dec 2013 #13
K&R n/t proReality Dec 2013 #15
Love Ricky. If anyone gets a chance to watch "Derek", do so. cbayer Dec 2013 #17
Going to have to check this out maddezmom Dec 2013 #22
Don't be turned away by the first episode. cbayer Dec 2013 #24
Thanks for that recommendation. nt adirondacker Dec 2013 #25
Yay Ricky amuse bouche Dec 2013 #18
What a tribute to moms everywhere NastyRiffraff Dec 2013 #26
Thank you, Ricky Gervais, from all us mums everywhere. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #27
I don't claim to know what happens after we die. I think anybody who knows liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #29
But more importantly... DamnYankeeInHouston Dec 2013 #33
Depends on whether he resides in an alfredo sauce or a marinara sauce. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #35
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is RoccoR5955 Dec 2013 #52
Another atheist checking in navarth Dec 2013 #36
K&R Eyerish Dec 2013 #37
As a "mum" who is also an atheist JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #38
I enjoy his comedy but my favorite atheist is George Carlin. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #51
nice message fascisthunter Dec 2013 #54
He's been with the same SO for most of his life, too. merrily Dec 2013 #69
 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
1. This one is falling like a rock
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:29 AM
Dec 2013

probably because it doesn't afford anyone the opportunity to point out that Atheists are a tiny minority, Stalin was an Atheist, and so was Hitler.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
14. I always tell my fundie relatives that their "Heaven" would be my "Hell"...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

I don't see them very often, but when I do its usually interesting to say the least!

paleotn

(17,939 posts)
58. Please don't give me a seat...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 07:41 PM
Dec 2013

..next to Ayn Rand. Please, please, please!! That really would be hell.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
31. It is evident..
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013

that he went there to tell people that god didn't exist, just like Stalin did while he was in divinity school

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
43. Nein! Hitler used the church to his advantage
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 03:17 PM
Dec 2013

Hitler was probably not all that religious, but the National Socialist German Workers Party leadership used the church to do the work of the Party in several ways.

Eins: "Kinder, Kirche, Kuche." The German woman's duty: children, church and kitchen. We like to say the Republicans want to keep women barefoot and pregnant, but the Nazis came right out and said it.

Zwei: "Gott Mit Uns." Each German fighting man wore a brass belt buckle bearing this inscription. You kinda have to wonder where they got the brass to make these things.

Drei: Using ministers who believed in the Nazi program (remember, very few Germans knew about the extermination program) to convince the man in the street that accepting extreme austerity now would lead to a wonderful future. That isn't far out of line; religion has always pushed the idea that forgoing pleasures now would lead to an eternity of joy in heaven - and they ALL do it.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
32. To each their own and
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013

although I believe in Spirit I would rather have an atheist in the foxhole beside me than any number of these so called Christians.

Religious views are changing and many people now are more honest in their beliefs/views - religion can no longer shackle everyone in fear and that is refreshing and the wave of the future.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
50. And apparently the Catholic Church didn't have a problem with him.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:16 PM
Dec 2013

They excommunicated Napoleon and Fidel Castro, but not Hitler.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. And an artist too...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:54 PM
Dec 2013

And an artist too... painter if I remember accurately.

Which is why I rarely hang out with artists... just in case.

Quasimodem

(441 posts)
63. If only ...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 10:23 PM
Dec 2013

Dubya had stuck with his strengths and remained a foot and dog painter, instead of stinking up the White House for eight years.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
67. Ummmm.... about that.....
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:13 AM
Dec 2013

Below is listed the most blasphemous details of the new religion that Hitler planned to replace Christianity with:

1. The National Reich Church specifically demands the immediate turning over to its possession of all churches and chapels, to become national churches.

5. The National Reich Church is immutably fixed in its one objective: to destroy that Christian belief imported into Germany in the unfortunate year 800, whose tenets conflict with both the heart and mentality of the German.

13. The National Reich Church demands the immediate cessation of the printing of the Bible, as well as its dissemination, throughout the Reich and colonies. All Sunday papers with any religious content shall also be suppressed.

14. The National Reich Church shall see that the importation of the Bible and other religious works into Reich territory is made impossible.

15. The National Reich Church decrees that the most important document of all time-therefore the guiding document of the German people-is the book of our Fuhrer, “Mein Kampf.” It recognizes that this book contains the principles of the purist ethnic morals under which the German people must live.

16. The National Reich Church will see to it that this book spread its active forces among the entire population and that all Germans live by it.

18. The National Reich Church will remove from the altars of all churches the Bible, the cross and religious objects.

19. In their places will be set that which must be venerated by the German people and therefore is by God, our most saintly book, “Mein Kampf,” and to the left of this a sword.

21. In the National Reich Church there will be no remission of sins; its tenet is that, once committed, a sin is irrevocable and will be implacably punished by the laws of nature and in this world.

30. On the day of the foundation of the National Reich Church the Christian cross shall be removed from all churches, cathedrals, and chapels inside the frontiers of the Reich and its colonies and will be replaced by the symbol of invincible Germany-the swastika.

The way that Hitler could pursue the annihilation of Christianity along with the Jews was through his war. Gereon Goldmann, a former Waffen SS solider, revealed the hidden, yet key objectives of Hitler’s war:

“One day a big shot from Berlin came to speak to us. We were stunned by what he said, but we weren’t allowed to tell anyone-it was strictly confidential. This man told us that ‘Victory could only be complete when all the churches were destroyed. Not only the Jewish religion, but also all Christian faiths would have to be eliminated’”.



http://prophecyproof.blogspot.com/2010/06/threat-hitler-posed-to-christianity.html

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
49. ...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:10 PM
Dec 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Joseph_Stalin#Education

In 1894, at the age of 15, he enrolled at the Orthodox Seminary of Tiflis, to which he had been awarded a scholarship. The teachers at Tiflis Seminary were also determined to impose Russian language and culture on the Georgian students.[1] Like many of his comrades, young Stalin reacted by being drawn to Georgian patriotism. For a time, he wrote Georgian poetry, for which he gained some fame.

During his time at the seminary, Stalin and numerous other students read forbidden literature that included Victor Hugo novels and revolutionary, including Marxist, material. He was caught and punished numerous times for this. He became an atheist in his first year.[6] He insisted his peers call him "Koba", after the Robin Hood-like protagonist of the novel The Patricide by Alexander Kazbegi; he continued to use this pseudonym as a revolutionary.[7][8] In August 1898, he joined the Russian Social-Democratic Labour Party, an organization from which the Bolsheviks would later form.

Shortly before the final exams, the Seminary abruptly raised school fees. Unable to pay, Stalin quit the seminary in 1899 and missed his exams, for which he was officially expelled.[9] Shortly after leaving school, Stalin discovered the early writings of Vladimir Lenin and decided to become a revolutionary.[citation needed]

Quasimodem

(441 posts)
64. I am an agnostic ...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 10:38 PM
Dec 2013

Because I have neither the facts to prove nor disprove the existence of an invisible sky fairy, but from forced close readings of the New Testament at an early age, I can pretty much assure you that Pat Robertson's delineation of the Biblical Jesus is a total crock.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
5. DU rec...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 12:04 PM
Dec 2013

I'll take a smart atheist like Ricky Gervais over condescending fraud Pope Photo-Op every time.

Sid

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
30. Yep
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:35 PM
Dec 2013

and I have zero tolerance for the religious fraudsters and their leaders...like Duck Dynasty

The support of their bigotry says so much about this country and religion

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
17. Love Ricky. If anyone gets a chance to watch "Derek", do so.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 12:54 PM
Dec 2013

It's his relatively short series on Netflix. Like Ricky himself, it is both funny, tender and filled with understated meaning.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
24. Don't be turned away by the first episode.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:04 PM
Dec 2013

It's necessary to set up the story, but a little difficult to get through.

It gets better and better and, by the end, I was very sad to see it end.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
29. I don't claim to know what happens after we die. I think anybody who knows
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:32 PM
Dec 2013

we go to heaven or hell or knows we vanish into nothing is full of crap. There's no way for any of us to know one way or the other. But I will say this. We form such strong bonds in this life, it is hard for me to believe that those bonds don't continue in some form or fashion after we die. That was a lovely sentiment Gervais wrote about his mother.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
52. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:23 PM
Dec 2013

Any and all varieties of pasta... Along with two meatballs of your choosing.

Remember, He boiled for your sins.

May you be touched by his noodly appendages.
R'Amen!

navarth

(5,927 posts)
36. Another atheist checking in
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 02:43 PM
Dec 2013

Mr. Gervais is not only funny, but very very wise. It's a nice thing to see.

And he's right about Moms. I've been very lucky in that department.

Here's wishing you all survive the holidays.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
38. As a "mum" who is also an atheist
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 02:50 PM
Dec 2013

I must say this is one of the most accurate as well as sweetest statements that could be made about *most* moms.

Julie

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